2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

RandyBreuer · Post #861 » by **RandyBreuer** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:53 am

Well if we Leaf refused to do that that's a huge red flag.

Fotis St · Post #862 » by **Fotis St** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:56 am

Didn't know that Caleb ... As I said, his Hunger for food has become hunger for basketball and this is too intriguing.

Watch on YouTube

My top tier Semi Ojeleye was the best of them scoring 22 points in 90 seconds

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RandyBreuer · Post #863 » by **RandyBreuer** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:57 am

To me here's the team that must roll the dice with pics 15, 20, and 26.
If I'm the Blazers I'm taking Giles, Anigbogu, and Jean. Trade Myles Leonard.
When you're in the west and were the 8th seed you have a long way to go. Take three swings at a grand slam. Maybe the basketball Gods will shine on them after the Sam Bowie and Greg Oden debacles, and Bill Walton's foot.

Fotis St · Post #864 » by **Fotis St** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:22 am

RandyBreuer wrote:Well if we Leaf refused to do that that's a huge red flag.

Found it for you ... http://www.nba.com/jazz/video/teams/jazz/2017/06/11/1497208209580-aa5168011-1472083

NMB2420 · Post #865 » by **NMB2420** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:54 am

Fotis St wrote:Didn't know that Caleb ... As I said, his Hunger for food has become hunger for basketball and this is too intriguing.

Watch on YouTube

My top tier Semi Ojeleye was the best of them scoring 22 points in 90 seconds

Watch on YouTube

I also am a fan of Semi Ojeleye's skill set. My concern though is why did things not work out for him at Duke? I know he was there along with both Jabari and Winslow so was it simply a numbers game or were there other issues that led to his transfer?

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Badgerlander · Post #866 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:14 am

Jordan Bell

http://cbbref.com/tiny/MiPk7

http://cbbref.com/tiny/pnizc

http://cbbref.com/tiny/DvDkC

LuessiT · Post #867 » by **LuessiT** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:40 am

Badgerlander wrote:Jordan Bell

http://cbbref.com/tiny/MiPk7

http://cbbref.com/tiny/pnizc

http://cbbref.com/tiny/DvDkC

Wouldn' t be upset if we target Bell at 17.

NMB2420 · Post #868 » by **NMB2420** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:05 pm

I think Jordan Bell brings qualities that every winning team needs. My only worry is whether or not he can develop a jump shot.

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Ron Swanson · Post #869 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:53 pm

If you think that Jordan Bell is a starting C in today's NBA, then I can see the appeal. If not, then I don't really have much interest with guys like Anigbogu and BAM! likely still on the board.

SirChurros · Post #870 » by **SirChurros** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:54 pm

NMB2420 wrote:
Fotis St wrote:Didn't know that Caleb ... As I said, his Hunger for food has become hunger for basketball and this is too intriguing.

Watch on YouTube

My top tier Semi Ojeleye was the best of them scoring 22 points in 90 seconds

Watch on YouTube

I also am a fan of Semi Ojeleye's skill set. My concern though is why did things not work out for him at Duke? I know he was there along with both Jabari and Winslow so was it simply a numbers game or were there other issues that led to his transfer?

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He transferred because he was buried on the roster.

Coach K is notorious for not going very deep into his bench.

Bernman · Post #871 » by **Bernman** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:48 pm

Fotis St wrote:
RandyBreuer wrote:I'll be really happy if Collins lasts and is the pick. Don't think he wil so my consolation prize is Leaf the next best stretch 4.

I am ok with Collins he has the body to play D ... but Leaf doesn't impress me at all, there are like 50 euro (prospects and vets) players like him.

He had a workout yesterday with Jazz I think, and he only did 1-0 drills, he worked out by himself, Jazz staff openly where disappointed by his refusal. Jazz staff said that they can evaluate a player better when he plays against a player and not against a coach.

I am telling you guys, there are many "Leafs" in Europe. At #17 we should search for bigger upside

If there are 50 euro prospects/vets like him, then why did Bolden post a 12 PER at UCLA, while Leaf produced a 27? A very minute % of future NBA players have Leaf's success their first year in college.

Agents have their strategies and prospects stick to them. You must think it's a big flag now that the very top players avoid the combine.

The NBA is not played 1 on 1, or even 1 on 3, and some prospects you don't want to be grouped with. It's like choosing a movie and maybe the stars are Pauly Shore and Stephen Baldwin. Probably won't help your career.

SirChurros · Post #872 » by **SirChurros** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:51 pm

Bernman wrote:
Fotis St wrote:
RandyBreuer wrote:I'll be really happy if Collins lasts and is the pick. Don't think he wil so my consolation prize is Leaf the next best stretch 4.

I am ok with Collins he has the body to play D ... but Leaf doesn't impress me at all, there are like 50 euro (prospects and vets) players like him.

He had a workout yesterday with Jazz I think, and he only did 1-0 drills, he worked out by himself, Jazz staff openly where disappointed by his refusal. Jazz staff said that they can evaluate a player better when he plays against a player and not against a coach.

I am telling you guys, there are many "Leafs" in Europe. At #17 we should search for bigger upside

If there are 50 euro prospects/vets like him, then why did Bolden post a 12 PER at UCLA, while Leaf produced a 27? A very minute % of future NBA players have Leaf's success their first year in college.

Agents have their strategies and prospects stick to them. You must think it's a big flag now that the very top players avoid the combine.

The NBA is not played 1 on 1, or even 1 on 3, and some prospects you don't want to be grouped with. It's like choosing a movie and maybe the stars are Pauly Shore and Stephen Baldwin. Probably won't help your career.

BS. You going to tell me that Encino Man didn't help Brendan Fraser and Sean Astin?

skones · Post #873 » by **skones** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:53 pm

Bernman wrote:
Fotis St wrote:
RandyBreuer wrote:I'll be really happy if Collins lasts and is the pick. Don't think he wil so my consolation prize is Leaf the next best stretch 4.

I am ok with Collins he has the body to play D ... but Leaf doesn't impress me at all, there are like 50 euro (prospects and vets) players like him.

He had a workout yesterday with Jazz I think, and he only did 1-0 drills, he worked out by himself, Jazz staff openly where disappointed by his refusal. Jazz staff said that they can evaluate a player better when he plays against a player and not against a coach.

I am telling you guys, there are many "Leafs" in Europe. At #17 we should search for bigger upside

If there are 50 euro prospects/vets like him, then why did Bolden post a 12 PER at UCLA, while Leaf produced a 27? A very minute % of future NBA players have Leaf's success their first year in college.

Agents have their strategies and prospects stick to them. You must think it's a big flag now that the very top players avoid the combine.

The NBA is not played 1 on 1, or even 1 on 3, and some prospects you don't want to be grouped with. It's like choosing a movie and maybe the stars are Pauly Shore and Stephen Baldwin. Probably won't help your career.

Would you judge every NBA prospect on their freshman year? Improvements happen, and sometimes they happen in significant fashion. I don't agree that there are "50 euro prospects" like Leaf, but the Bolden hate is overblown.

BuckHole · Post #874 » by **BuckHole** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:03 pm

10 days!

M-C-G · Post #875 » by **M-C-G** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:04 pm

Zach Collins fans, I just don't see it. How well did the rebounding and blocks hold up against NBA length? Watching his DX and just feel like NBA length is going to be a big problem for him at the 5, even with his 9'3 standing reach. Or do you guys see him as a 4?

NMB2420 · Post #876 » by **NMB2420** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:37 pm

Have It All wrote:
NMB2420 wrote:
Fotis St wrote:Didn't know that Caleb ... As I said, his Hunger for food has become hunger for basketball and this is too intriguing.

Watch on YouTube

My top tier Semi Ojeleye was the best of them scoring 22 points in 90 seconds

Watch on YouTube

I also am a fan of Semi Ojeleye's skill set. My concern though is why did things not work out for him at Duke? I know he was there along with both Jabari and Winslow so was it simply a numbers game or were there other issues that led to his transfer?

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He transferred because he was buried on the roster.

Coach K is notorious for not going very deep into his bench.

Any chance Semi could play SG in the Bucks system?

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M-C-G · Post #877 » by **M-C-G** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:57 pm

NMB2420 wrote:Any chance Semi could play SG in the Bucks system?

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Given that Middleton, Snell, Vaughn, Terry, Brogdon, Dova and Giannis all played some minutes there this year, I'd say, yes, but if the question is can he guard the SG position well enough, my answer is I don't know

LuessiT · Post #878 » by **LuessiT** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:03 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:If you think that Jordan Bell is a starting C in today's NBA, then I can see the appeal. If not, then I don't really have much interest with guys like Anigbogu and BAM! likely still on the board.

I think that he is a starting PF.

skones · Post #879 » by **skones** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:05 pm

M-C-G wrote:Zach Collins fans, I just don't see it. How well did the rebounding and blocks hold up against NBA length? Watching his DX and just feel like NBA length is going to be a big problem for him at the 5, even with his 9'3 standing reach. Or do you guys see him as a 4?

It seems like every single prospect in college basketball has a weakness "going up against NBA length." It makes complete sense, going up against length in the NCAA isn't the overall norm, thus it's a different look, a more difficult one, and it's a reasonable expectation that there is a struggle at that stage. I don't have any hard numbers on it, but I'd suspect that if you look at all prospects numbers going against legitimate length they'd show a statistical downturn. It's pretty hard to argue against the overall 67.2% from the field Collins posted on two point shots.

M-C-G · Post #880 » by **M-C-G** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:06 pm

LuessiT wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:If you think that Jordan Bell is a starting C in today's NBA, then I can see the appeal. If not, then I don't really have much interest with guys like Anigbogu and BAM! likely still on the board.

I think that he is a starting PF.

I love the idea of Bell, if he can shoot. If he can't or if Giannis doesn't gain some ground on his shot, I have a tough time seeing how you play them together, in which case, I don't see Bell starting.