Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread

[Half-Full]

I think the real worry is how well the Nets could potentially round that team out by dealing Irving. With Harden in the mix they don't need him or certainly whatever he's doing off the court, KD might already be done with him and he's still gonna command a handsome return. Could've actually been the underlying reason behind acquiring Harden is they've already known that Kyrie is imploding and are prepared for liftoff from planet Flat World B. Free

If they're smart and they really want to win, they'd deal Kyrie for a wing defender and a starting center today. Still don't understand why they let Allen go.

They could probably snag Drummond. The Cavs are ready to part company with him, especially after getting Jarret Allen.

[VeryMuchWoke]

The NBA has gotten so much worse as the years go by. I'll watch every Celtics game...but that's it. Best thing that could happen to the league as a whole would be to cut the cap drastically, and implement a hard rule to not allow teams to have more than 2 players making 20+ a year. We see the same handful of guys every single season win the title. Watching all these childish millionaires tank their franchises so they can form super best friend squads is pretty old

20+ unless you've drafted them is the fairest, imo. Cause for any franchise if you've drafted your players, it'd be **** to lose them cause of a rule. Tbh, the league is trash and Silver is pretty bad, league is trending in a bad direction and I do expect lockdown soon.

The solution is way easier than that IMO. Just have a "franchise tag", one per team, that player can be paid a lot more than the non-franchise max, but they don't get UFA.

Or just get rid of UFA altogether and replace it with RFA. Full team control at all times.

[Zeroforwinger]

I think the real worry is how well the Nets could potentially round that team out by dealing Irving. With Harden in the mix they don't need him or certainly whatever he's doing off the court, KD might already be done with him and he's still gonna command a handsome return. Could've actually been the underlying reason behind acquiring Harden is they've already known that Kyrie is imploding and are prepared for liftoff from planet Flat World B. Free

If they're smart and they really want to win, they'd deal Kyrie for a wing defender and a starting center today. Still don't understand why they let Allen go.

They could probably snag Drummond. The Cavs are ready to part company with him, especially after getting Jarret Allen.

I didn’t even realize they traded Allen too. I think you can make the argument they are worse after the trade and they won’t be making any good 1st round pick for a long time.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

If they're smart and they really want to win, they'd deal Kyrie for a wing defender and a starting center today. Still don't understand why they let Allen go.

They could probably snag Drummond. The Cavs are ready to part company with him, especially after getting Jarret Allen.

I didn’t even realize they traded Allen too. I think you can make the argument they are worse after the trade and they won’t be making any good 1st round pick for a long time.

Nets are don't have the depth but neither did LA and they had no issues winning the title. That will change though when players like Drummond and Tucker sign with them after they are bought out.

[MagicBagley18]

Here’s the beal with Tatum and brown pipe dream road map

1) beal doesn’t demand out by the deadline (actually makes sense for beal so he can threaten to opt out and kill deals to places he won’t wanna be)
2)the wizards don’t pivot and move to trading him by the deadline (they really should)
3)kemba comes back with burst, stays healthy and looks near all nba form
4)beal demands out next offseason
5) Boston is his preferred destination and the only place he’s interested re-signing & everywhere else is a rental

So assuming all of that happens (incredible luck) then you need beal to actually be willing to kill deals to places like Miami (hard to see that happening when they can equally create a very good team and agent is close to riley plus the weather ) and Philly (morey is risk tolerant and aggressive).

Then after all that happens ainge needs to get lucky and super creative to find a 3-4 team trade where we give up a **** ton of picks to make it happen. It’s so extremely unlikely and quite frankly pie in the sky. Even if 1-5 happen I just don’t see Morey not risking it or beal saying “hey, Miami no thanks”

[Froob]

Unless PJ Tucker is cooked and I'm unaware, I'll be mad if we don't get him. Sounds like he could be had for a first round pick.

[yeleven11]

Unless PJ Tucker is cooked and I'm unaware, I'll be mad if we don't get him. Sounds like he could be had for a first round pick.

He is kinda cooked tbh and he's an expiring. Can only shoot from the corners, pretty limited offensively, and still undersized on defense. He's starting to be a bit overrated tbh.

[Froob]

Unless PJ Tucker is cooked and I'm unaware, I'll be mad if we don't get him. Sounds like he could be had for a first round pick.

He is kinda cooked tbh and he's an expiring. Can only shoot from the corners, pretty limited offensively, and still undersized on defense. He's starting to be a bit overrated tbh.

Hoping to catch some of their game tonight, I'll have to keep an eye out on Tucker. We don't have room for many more young players, probably worth taking a swing on Tucker.

[flintsky21]

Dealing for Oladipo makes perfect sense for Boston. But knowing gunshy Danny, who hasn't made an in-season trade in more than 3 years, we'll probably just watch Oladipo go to a rival like Miami.

[Froob]

The NBA has gotten so much worse as the years go by. I'll watch every Celtics game...but that's it. Best thing that could happen to the league as a whole would be to cut the cap drastically, and implement a hard rule to not allow teams to have more than 2 players making 20+ a year. We see the same handful of guys every single season win the title. Watching all these childish millionaires tank their franchises so they can form super best friend squads is pretty old

20+ unless you've drafted them is the fairest, imo. Cause for any franchise if you've drafted your players, it'd be **** to lose them cause of a rule. Tbh, the league is trash and Silver is pretty bad, league is trending in a bad direction and I do expect lockdown soon.

The solution is way easier than that IMO. Just have a "franchise tag", one per team, that player can be paid a lot more than the non-franchise max, but they don't get UFA.

Or just get rid of UFA altogether and replace it with RFA. Full team control at all times.

NBAPA won't agree to that. They have to agree on a drastic change like that. Franchise tag has zero percent chance of happening.

[ddb]

I'll be worried about the Nets if they trade Irving for a few guys who can play defense. I seem to be in the minority but until then I don't think things changed much yesterday. The Nets problem was not a lack of iso scoring or a lack of enormous clashing egos.

Yup. I agree. This isn't KG & Ray Allen joining Paul Pierce at a point in their careers where none of them had won a title and were willing to sacrifice for betterment of the team. KD & Kyrie have already won a ring. Also, in all 3 cases the best skill these guys feature is scoring. This isn't even LeBron/Wade/Bosh where only 1 had a ring and 2 of the 3 could really help in other areas besides scoring. Kyrie & Harden literally do nothing but score. KD is well rounded, but he's also probably the most gifted scorer of the group. Also, who's closing out games?

[FlatearthZorro]

20+ unless you've drafted them is the fairest, imo. Cause for any franchise if you've drafted your players, it'd be **** to lose them cause of a rule. Tbh, the league is trash and Silver is pretty bad, league is trending in a bad direction and I do expect lockdown soon.

The solution is way easier than that IMO. Just have a "franchise tag", one per team, that player can be paid a lot more than the non-franchise max, but they don't get UFA.

Or just get rid of UFA altogether and replace it with RFA. Full team control at all times.

NBAPA won't agree to that. They have to agree on a drastic change like that. Franchise tag has zero percent chance of happening.

I do feel as if the league will lose a lots of money soon. They already did cause of COVID, but the overall situation looks pretty bad to me. I don't see how the league's popularity will grow as the **** that's been going on for a while continues. NBA has become a cirucs. I've not seen stars act like this in any other league. NBA is ran by LBJ right now. His agent and agency are forcing players to his team, imagine if he becomes an owner while owning an agency and being the manipulative little man that he is at heart.

Also every other top 20-30 player can throw temper tantrums cause he doesn't wanna play for his team although he's making huge cash or cause he doesn't feel like playing. I legit haven't seen this anywhere else. You could imagine how spoiled NBA players are when John freaking Wall's annual salary is higher than Cristiano Ronaldo. I feel that the NBA needs a lockdown and the contract's values of max, etc need to be lowered. I'm all for player empowerment but this has gone too far already.

[Ernest]

They could probably snag Drummond. The Cavs are ready to part company with him, especially after getting Jarret Allen.

I didn’t even realize they traded Allen too. I think you can make the argument they are worse after the trade and they won’t be making any good 1st round pick for a long time.

Nets are don't have the depth but neither did LA and they had no issues winning the title. That will change though when players like Drummond and Tucker sign with them after they are bought out.

Unless they sign with, I don't know, the Lakers.

Covid NYC vs sunny LA

Good thing we got that TPE. We can probably make a deal where a player makes more money to play for us than the Lakers or Nets.

[zoyathedestroya]

Forget about Harden and Kyrie and the Nets for a second. Will the Celtics ever play again? Are they still part of the NBA??

[FlatearthZorro]

Unless PJ Tucker is cooked and I'm unaware, I'll be mad if we don't get him. Sounds like he could be had for a first round pick.

He's about to be 36. A first is kinda bizarre for him. And he's looking for a new contract... I'm all for getting him, but not at the age of 36 for a first rounder and under contact for 40-50 more games.

[Ernest]

Unless PJ Tucker is cooked and I'm unaware, I'll be mad if we don't get him. Sounds like he could be had for a first round pick.

He's about to be 36. A first is kinda bizarre for him. And he's looking for a new contract... I'm all for getting him, but not at the age of 36 for a first rounder and under contact for 40-50 more games.

Jae Crowder is still the name to beat in my mind. I mean I hope we can find someone even better, but he would help us out a lot as an 8th man. Suns will probably be too good to trade him, but he is the kind of guy I want if we can't swing some deal for another star.

[Mansurton]

Unless PJ Tucker is cooked and I'm unaware, I'll be mad if we don't get him. Sounds like he could be had for a first round pick.

He's about to be 36. A first is kinda bizarre for him. And he's looking for a new contract... I'm all for getting him, but not at the age of 36 for a first rounder and under contact for 40-50 more games.

Jae Crowder is still the name to beat in my mind. I mean I hope we can find someone even better, but he would help us out a lot as an 8th man. Suns will probably be too good to trade him, but he is the kind of guy I want if we can't swing some deal for another star.

Should have kept him and that BRK pick rather than deal with the egomaniac.. I loved Jae Crowder when he played for us and I agree, he would be a great piece off the bench for us

[BostonCouchGM]

Wait a minute... Houston just traded Harden and DIDN'T get back a Jaylen Brown or better player? I guess a few of you were just spouting nonsense on here. Over and over and over and over again. But you guys were so sure about it. Who "Doesn't know how basketball works" now?

yikes. They got Oladipo back. You know, one of the best two way SG in the entire league? The guy who made all-NBA? The guy averaging 20-6-4 and has proved he's "back" and healthy? And they received several first rounders.

[Afam]

Of course overrated, one championship Danny was going to decline. Fair offer from the rockets. It is what it is.

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[robdog_5]

I like Tucker but anything more than 2 seconds with one being protected is a reach.