Kevin Seraphin

daSwami · Post #881 » by **daSwami** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 2:24 pm

Seraphin/Booker combo - the Bruise Brothers?

hands11 · Post #882 » by **hands11** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 2:50 pm

Randy played Booker at center and likes to mix it up.

I have to imagine at some point we will see KS at PF.

Note: One play stood out to me that was amazing. KS was back peddling getting back on defense and he was moving faster going backward then anyone on the court running forward. It really caught my eye. The kid has fast feet.

The key obviously for KS is going to be to build on this. He can't just bring it one game here and there.

dobrojim · Post #883 » by **dobrojim** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:08 pm

I'll repeat what I said in the LA game thread

Witt should look at matchups on a nightly basis when
deciding who to start at C. McGee and Kev are distinctly
different types of players and both players and the team
would benefit from being matched up against the type of
player they are more likely to have success against.

closg00 · Post #884 » by **closg00** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:22 pm

dobrojim wrote:I'll repeat what I said in the LA game thread

Witt should look at matchups on a nightly basis when
deciding who to start at C. McGee and Kev are distinctly
different types of players and both players and the team
would benefit from being matched up against the type of
player they are more likely to have success against.

Something Flip & EFJ refused to do, I really appreciate Witt being so-flexible.

Post #885 » by **nate33** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:35 pm

dobrojim wrote:I'll repeat what I said in the LA game thread

Witt should look at matchups on a nightly basis when
deciding who to start at C. McGee and Kev are distinctly
different types of players and both players and the team
would benefit from being matched up against the type of
player they are more likely to have success against.

I really don't like the idea of having a constantly changing starting lineup. If Wittman sees a matchup where Seraphin can be more effective then McGee, then sub out McGee earlier and leave Seraphin in longer. But there's no reason to jerk around the starting lineups so much. I think it'll get into their heads.

I agree that, in general, Seraphin should play more minutes against low post scoring centers and McGee should play more minutes against scrubs against whom he can physically dominate.

dobrojim · Post #886 » by **dobrojim** » Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:46 pm

I understand the resistance to that concept but these
are pro players who should know their teammates
well enough that this shouldn't be that big an issue.

I just see a clear benefit to NOT having McGee start
against Dwight Howard in particular (there are other
examples one could probably come up with ie Bynum). I've seen
too many games where McGee gets abused and in foul
trouble in an entirely predictable fashion, generally
against the big bully type of Cs. Why beat your head
against a wall by forcing McGee to do something he
has repeatedly shown himself incapable of doing?

tontoz · Post #887 » by **tontoz** » Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:42 am

In a postgame interview Booker said that Seraphin might be the strongest player he has ever played against.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdi7KjltA3o&feature=related[/youtube]

closg00 · Post #888 » by **closg00** » Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:05 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJz97nQQrqw[/youtube]

dobrojim · Post #889 » by **dobrojim** » Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:15 pm

hypothetically Sat night vs POR, I would start McGee against Camby,
not Seraphin.

hands11 · Post #890 » by **hands11** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:06 pm

Right now there is no sure thing at center for this team so it is a gamble no maker who they start. But my idea for this year was to get McGee as the back up. That was when I thought they would have Ronny and Dray in at least average shape. That also would have helped to price McGee in FA because the right price for McGee is something like 5M for the next two years. He is not a starter on a good team so no way I want a bench center with holes in his game like McGee making 7-10M But in two years, he could be really good.

I would be surprised if KS doesnt get some court time but I have heard nothing regarding him starting.

Randy tried that a couple games ago and it didnt work so well.

Funny thing is this team has a lot of people who have played center this year.

McGee, Dray, KS, Ronny, Booker and Ves

But they have no center worthy of starting every game.

I really hope Kevin makes this a launching point and can follow it up.

JonathanJoseph · Post #891 » by **JonathanJoseph** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:01 am

I posted the following paragraph in the Nene trade thread, but thought I'd post it here:

Another reason I like this trade is that it very well may be that the Wizards didn't trade their best big man prospect. Kevin Seraphin is BALLING right now. McGee has a higher ceiling than Seraphin, but Seraphin looks to be quickly accelerating in his development. John Wall was the clear player of the game but don't underestimate the game that Seraphin played and this is only a few games after Seraphin took it to Bynum. I have no idea why Whitman didn't play Seraphin vs the Spurs or Mavs, but in Seraphin's last 3 games where he got burn, he's averaging 10.7 pts, 7 rebs, 1 blk on 78% FG in 23 minutes/game. That's 16 pts, 11.5 rebs, 1.5 blks per36. And he's showing real signs of an advanced post game.

Seraphin is a BULLY back there. I love it. He and Booker set a tone and an attitude. McGee and Young were soft.

tontoz · Post #892 » by **tontoz** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:07 pm

JonathanJoseph wrote:I posted the following paragraph in the Nene trade thread, but thought I'd post it here:

Another reason I like this trade is that it very well may be that the Wizards didn't trade their best big man prospect. Kevin Seraphin is BALLING right now. McGee has a higher ceiling than Seraphin, but Seraphin looks to be quickly accelerating in his development. John Wall was the clear player of the game but don't underestimate the game that Seraphin played and this is only a few games after Seraphin took it to Bynum. I have no idea why Whitman didn't play Seraphin vs the Spurs or Mavs, but in Seraphin's last 3 games where he got burn, he's averaging 10.7 pts, 7 rebs, 1 blk on 78% FG in 23 minutes/game. That's 16 pts, 11.5 rebs, 1.5 blks per36. And he's showing real signs of an advanced post game.

Seraphin is a BULLY back there. I love it. He and Booker set a tone and an attitude. McGee and Young were soft.

I can actually agree with you for a change.

Going strictly by stats Seraphin was garbage last year but what i saw was a strong, mobile player who played hard and had a legit jump hook. I didn't put much stock in his rookie numbers due to his inexperience and the language barrier.

Now his TS% is up to 53.4%. His per 36 numbers are 10/10 with 2.5 blocks. He won't give up easy baskets underneath. He picks up fouls contesting shots but that doesn't bother me. Make them earn their points.

Post #893 » by **Rafael122** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:12 pm

Biting my tongue, so I'm just going to say that I'm really impressed by what I've seen so far. 10 pts, 9 rebounds and 1 block from him at the half against Memphis. I want to see more of this...we'll see but I like his progress.

Jimmy Recard · Post #894 » by **Jimmy Recard** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:37 am

Rafael122 wrote:Biting my tongue, so I'm just going to say that I'm really impressed by what I've seen so far. 10 pts, 9 rebounds and 1 block from him at the half against Memphis. I want to see more of this...we'll see but I like his progress.

They didn't go to him in the second half for whatever reason. Can't understand why, our whole offense looked sharp when we went into Kevin in the first half.

tontoz · Post #895 » by **tontoz** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:57 am

Jimmy Recard wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:Biting my tongue, so I'm just going to say that I'm really impressed by what I've seen so far. 10 pts, 9 rebounds and 1 block from him at the half against Memphis. I want to see more of this...we'll see but I like his progress.

They didn't go to him in the second half for whatever reason. Can't understand why, our whole offense looked sharp when we went into Kevin in the first half.

True. I have a feeling Memphis was focusing on him more. I'll take 12/12 with 2 blocks against a playoff team on the road. Not to mention forcing Gasol into 6-16 shooting.

queridiculo · Post #896 » by **queridiculo** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:40 am

Even during pre-season it looked like Seraphin had really come along nicely. His footwork, how he moves in space, he just looked like a legit big. What has hurt him in the past was his propensity to draw fouls, the guy literally couldn't stay on the floor when he was seeing some minutes.

Should be interesting to see how he develops. Based on their personalities and background him and Nene might get along quite well. There's a lot Seraphin can learn from Nene.

Quite impressed by Seraphin's ability to step out and hit those 12 footers. Nice form and stroke, should only get better with time.

JonathanJoseph · Post #897 » by **JonathanJoseph** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:38 am

Just to make sure everyone at home is keeping score, in the past 11 days Kevin Seraphin took it to Andrew Bynum playing a big role in a comeback win over the Lakers, got Marcus Camby to lose his cool, worked over Chris Kaman and both flustered and embarrassed Marc Gasol. Seraphin is 68% FG over that stretch.

Gasol's technical and Seraphin's very savy pulling the chair out on him was masterful and shows the mental side of the game is coming along with the physical side. Seraphin physically abused an all-star center on defense and he showed both post moves and confidant range on a jumper.

I'll do my best to keep this in perspective, but gosh, this is promising. Don't let the height fool you, Seraphin plays much bigger than his height with strength and toughness. It's a totally different game when you intimidate opponents and Seraphin is doing that in a way that McGee never could.

Take your time, Nene.

Post #898 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:30 am

I was impressed that after he was posterized by a 6'2 journeyman guard, he didn't let that phase him at all, and he came right back - playing very solidly. Am I sold on him as anything more than a good backup. Oh hell to the no. Is it refreshing to see a Wiz center play good team basketball? Yes! It was really a burden - most games - to watch Javale McGee play in a Wiz uniform.

Induveca · Post #899 » by **Induveca** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:02 pm

Encouraged by Seraphin in a Jahidi White sort of way thus far.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #900 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:18 pm

Seraphin is nimble enough and agile enough to play PF/C. He's a modern day Big Dog, Antoine Carr.

Bad coaching did not allow the Wizards to try McGee with Seraphin. On offense, Kevin has nice hook shots and a good dribble drive. He can also face up. Seraphin is effective at C despite a lack of height, but I contend that he could be overpowering at PF.

I'm not surprised by his great defense--he showed that last season. This season he's fouling a lot less and moving a lot more decisively and fluidly.

On the positive side he does play well with Booker.

On the negative side he will play less with Nene on the roster. Wittman still has to find minutes for Jan Vesely and Chris Singleton.