Draft prospects @ 10

lukeyrid13 · Post #881 » by **lukeyrid13** » Fri May 24, 2013 11:59 pm

If as some rumors suggest Cleveland took Porter #1 would Orlando still take Burke and let Noel slip to #3 though?

PTPaQ · Post #882 » by **PTPaQ** » Sat May 25, 2013 12:08 am

lukeyrid13 wrote:If as some rumors suggest Cleveland took Porter #1 would Orlando still take Burke and let Noel slip to #3 though?

If that happened I think Hennigan would still draft Noel at 2 and start to work the board, eventually trading him within a couple draft spots, probably for whoever agrees to select Burke and throw some icing on top.

jhern87 · Post #883 » by **jhern87** » Sat May 25, 2013 12:50 am

lukeyrid13 wrote:If as some rumors suggest Cleveland took Porter #1 would Orlando still take Burke and let Noel slip to #3 though?

Who knows? If I was Orlando I would. They need someone to come in and establish himself ASAP for that franchise and Burke seems to be that guy.

Norm2953 · Post #884 » by **Norm2953** » Sat May 25, 2013 12:51 am

I'm of the opinion McCollum is the most NBA ready player in the draft but one
of the developmental players like Adams has a chance to be the best player
by the end of his rookie contract.

lukeyrid13 · Post #885 » by **lukeyrid13** » Sat May 25, 2013 1:09 am

Detroit and Minnesota are looking for wings though and I think McCollum will go at either 8 or 9

nickforthreee · Post #886 » by **nickforthreee** » Sat May 25, 2013 2:07 am

Blazers trade: Meyers Leonard, 10th pick
Thunder trade: Jeremy Lamb, 12th pick

I still feel like Jeremy Lamb will be an allstar player. Scores effortlessly and in many ways. Athletic and versatile. fits in perfectly with Portland. Excellent shooter. OKC just happens to be the worst possible fit for him. Would you guys pull this trade?

JasonStern · Post #887 » by **JasonStern** » Sat May 25, 2013 2:26 am

nickforthreee wrote:Blazers trade: Meyers Leonard, 10th pick
Thunder trade: Jeremy Lamb, 12th pick

if portland wanted lamb, they would have drafted him last year.

nickforthreee wrote:I still feel like Jeremy Lamb will be an allstar player. Scores effortlessly and in many ways.

scoring effortlessly in the d-league is completely different than scoring effortlessly in the nba. if lamb really had nba all star traits, he wouldn't have slipped in last year's draft and he would have played more than 147 minutes last season.

DemonLizard · Post #888 » by **DemonLizard** » Sat May 25, 2013 2:33 am

Well, Will Shabazz Muhammad Be on the board possibly when it's our turn? If so I'd take him in a heartbeat, Or is it possible for Portland to take rudy gobert? I Love the guy and think he'd be a great fit for portland. And One more thing, will portland try and trade up for maybe Victor Oladipo? And Who would we give up? the #10 Freeland and a 2nd rounder? doubt that'll be enough.

Tell me what you think portland will do during the draft.

GreenRiddler · Post #889 » by **GreenRiddler** » Sat May 25, 2013 3:50 am

Since it appears less of a possibility to trade the pick for a impact center, I hope we chose Steven Adam @ 10 and sign JO in the offseason and fill out our bench.

jhern87 · Post #890 » by **jhern87** » Sat May 25, 2013 3:54 am

GreenRiddler wrote:Since it appears less of a possibility to trade the pick for a impact center, I hope we chose Steven Adam @ 10 and sign JO in the offseason and fill out our bench.

I'd much rather have Gobert than Adams.. Hibbert size and length but more like McGee athleticism. And he likes to protect the rim and patterns his game after Tyson Chandler. Give me Gobert.

PDXKnight · Post #891 » by **PDXKnight** » Sat May 25, 2013 3:56 am

I think Wes and number 10 would be lucrative in a 3 team type deal if we're going for Oladipo. I'm holding out hope that the number 10 pick can help us move in the direction of acquiring a center but we'll see.

jhern87 · Post #892 » by **jhern87** » Sat May 25, 2013 4:00 am

Gobert

Jsun947 · Post #893 » by **Jsun947** » Sat May 25, 2013 4:19 am

Gobert is not on the same planet as McGee athletically. He's good for his size but not great. You don't need to jump out of the gym though with a 9'7 standing reach. I'd almost prefer he never jumps on defense. He doesn't need to leave his feet to contest shots and it keeps him from getting pump faked

Adams is actually the one that tested similar to McGee in athletic ability.

lukeyrid13 · Post #894 » by **lukeyrid13** » Sat May 25, 2013 4:55 am

Anyone I have interest in will be gone by 10. I hope we trade up or at worst trade it for a proven guy. Guys like Gobert, Adams, and MCW could be good but it'll be at least three years until then and we don't have time to wait around for that.

nickforthreee · Post #895 » by **nickforthreee** » Sat May 25, 2013 5:19 am

JasonStern wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:Blazers trade: Meyers Leonard, 10th pick
Thunder trade: Jeremy Lamb, 12th pick

if portland wanted lamb, they would have drafted him last year.

nickforthreee wrote:I still feel like Jeremy Lamb will be an allstar player. Scores effortlessly and in many ways.

scoring effortlessly in the d-league is completely different than scoring effortlessly in the nba. if lamb really had nba all star traits, he wouldn't have slipped in last year's draft and he would have played more than 147 minutes last season.

scored effortlessly in college, d-league, and summer league. hes a young kid who sucks at defense right now, he wasn't going to get minutes on a championship contender with sefolosha, kmart, and d-fish

No-Man · Post #896 » by **No-Man** » Sat May 25, 2013 5:25 am

jhern87 wrote:
GreenRiddler wrote:Since it appears less of a possibility to trade the pick for a impact center, I hope we chose Steven Adam @ 10 and sign JO in the offseason and fill out our bench.

I'd much rather have Gobert than Adams.. Hibbert size and length but more like McGee athleticism. And he likes to protect the rim and patterns his game after Tyson Chandler. Give me Gobert.

what?

Gobert is just long, he'll be worse than Thabeet

Wizenheimer · Post #897 » by **Wizenheimer** » Sat May 25, 2013 5:46 am

I went to draft express to see if I could compare Gobert and Hibbert in their pre-draft measurements buy apparently, Hibbert didn't participate

McGee did though and so did Deandre Jordan, so did Meyers Leonard

tale of the tape:

Ht with shoes: Gobert 7' 2"....McGee 7' 0"....Jordan 6' 11"....Leonard 7' 1.25"
weight: Gobert 238....McGee 241....Jordan 250....Leonard 250
Wingspan: Gobert 7 '8.5"....McGee 7' 6"....Jordan 7' 6"....Leonard 7' 3"
Standing Reach: Gobert 9' 7"....McGee 9' 6.5"....Jordan 9' 5.5"....Leonard 9' 0"
No Step Vert: Gobert 25.0....McGee 27.0....Jordan 26.0....Leonard 30.0
Max Vert: Gobert 29.0....McGee 32.5....Jordan 30.5....Leonard 32.5
Bench Press: Gobert 7....McGee 7....Jordan 8....Leonard 19
Lane Agility: Gobert 12.85....McGee 12.75....Jordan 12.30....Leonard 11.34
3/4 court Sprint: Gobert 3.57....McGee 3.25....Jordan 3.27....Leonard 3.41

it's kind of interesting that Meyers probably came out as the best athlete of the bunch. Best verticals, best lane agility, a bit slow in the sprint, but he crushed them in the bench press

All these measurements probably don't mean a lot. Gobert is the longest but last in the jumps and running. However, there really wasn't a significant gap. Defensively, I'd think the combination of standing reach and no step vertical would be the most likely to tell you anything. It's not to often that a big jumps as high as he can with a full run at it.

Norm2953 · Post #898 » by **Norm2953** » Sat May 25, 2013 6:14 am

We're going to have to wait for the workouts for the numbers can only tell you so
much but I continue to wonder how we can carry two developmental bigs at the
same time. It would be interesting to see if Meyers could play PF if we draft Gobert.

lukeyrid13 · Post #899 » by **lukeyrid13** » Sat May 25, 2013 6:49 am

JasonStern wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:scoring effortlessly in the d-league is completely different than scoring effortlessly in the nba. .

Wait so Babbitt isn't going to be a star?

JasonStern · Post #900 » by **JasonStern** » Sat May 25, 2013 6:51 am

nickforthreee wrote:
JasonStern wrote:scoring effortlessly in the d-league is completely different than scoring effortlessly in the nba. if lamb really had nba all star traits, he wouldn't have slipped in last year's draft and he would have played more than 147 minutes last season.

scored effortlessly in college, d-league, and summer league. hes a young kid who sucks at defense right now, he wasn't going to get minutes on a championship contender with sefolosha, kmart, and d-fish

luckily, playing defense in the nba is optional, so lamb has a bright future ahead of him. that said, I wouldn't waste multiple lotto picks on this theory.

lukeyrid13 wrote:
JasonStern wrote:scoring effortlessly in the d-league is completely different than scoring effortlessly in the nba. .

Wait so Babbitt isn't going to be a star?

Norm2953 wrote:We're going to have to wait for the workouts for the numbers can only tell you so
much but I continue to wonder how we can carry two developmental bigs at the
same time. It would be interesting to see if Meyers could play PF if we draft Gobert.

I think the blazers absolutely can because leonard is a project, not a guarantee, and this draft lacks star power. whether it's the smart move depends on what is available in trade and free agency. but given the blazers have no defined starting center and no defined backup center, having two prospects at that position wouldn't be the worst problem to have given the solid starting lineup 1-4. the real question is if players like zeller get picked early and a player like muhammad slides, do you stick to the best player available, or do you draft for need because you know the BPA's position is much easier replaced in free agency?

Wizenheimer wrote:I went to draft express to see if I could compare Gobert and Hibbert in their pre-draft measurements buy apparently, Hibbert didn't participate

McGee did though and so did Deandre Jordan, so did Meyers Leonard

mind adding zeller to the comparison? I know his game doesn't necessarily translate (although you could point out flaws with mcgee/jordan/leonard as well), but what I saw makes me from the combine on espn has me confident zeller will find a place in this league (even if at power forward than center), and as such, I am more inclined to gamble the pick on a player like him than gobert, given the team's win sooner than later goal.