Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason

[76thBearCub]

Is it the consensus that if we concede Ben Simmons, we don't throw any picks in?

[Negrodamus]

"We are fully prepared to let James suffer with one-legged John Wall until he breaks from this silly Brooklyn fantasy."

[ProcessDoctor]

Is it the consensus that if we concede Ben Simmons, we don't throw any picks in?

We'd be foolish to, especially if we don't get a long-term commitment from Harden.

Edit: Part of me thinks Morey may be trying to get assets from Houston in this exchange. Or maybe he would genuinely rather have Ben over Harden.

[Stanford]

No one is giving them that package.

Unless "young star" actually does mean Caris Levert. The word "star" has lost all meaning, so who knows.

[6ers83]

Wow everyone gone.

Are we really going to run it back with this crap group?

[Sixerscan]

That’s what they should be demanding for Harden. He has 3 years left. No reason for them to come down from that until at least the summer.

[VDT]

It is 2 years + a player option.

[Stanford]

Wow everyone gone.

Are we really going to run it back with this crap group?

Milwaukee traded 3 firsts and two swaps for a marginal upgrade at point guard. Did you want Morey to beat that?

[Negrodamus]

Wow everyone gone.

Are we really going to run it back with this crap group?

That's why I love the draft. I won't lose all hope until after tomorrow night (unless we draft someone I like for a change).

[sixers4real]

What does "a young star" mean?

Ben Simmons.

[76thBearCub]

That’s what they should be demanding for Harden. He has 3 years left. No reason for them to come down from that until at least the summer.

Goes back to the definition of what a young star is though, doesn't it?

[Mik317]

Wow everyone gone.

Are we really going to run it back with this crap group?

That's why I love the draft. I won't lose all hope until after tomorrow night (unless we draft someone I like for a change).

and then they'll trade him...

for Wiggins

no escape from despair around here son

[Sportfan73]

It is 2 years + a player option.

Yeah if he signed that extension that pushed it to 4 or 5 years I’d do it with Ben. But that’s my caveat

[Stanford]

What does "a young star" mean?

Ben Simmons.

Are you sure that's the case? Who is the worst player that Houston would consider a star?

[76thBearCub]

What does "a young star" mean?

Ben Simmons.

Start by trying to find anything equal, then see if they will add picks.

[davesilver]

What does "a young star" mean?

Ben Simmons.

Are you sure that's the case? Who is the worst player that Houston would consider a star?

Maybe Brown? Sure ain’t Caris....

[Stanford]

Ben Simmons.

Are you sure that's the case? Who is the worst player that Houston would consider a star?

Maybe Brown? Sure ain’t Caris....

I heard Kemba, Brown, Tatum referred to as a "BIG THREE" on a podcast today, so yeah.

Read on Twitter

Another BIG THREE

I don't even know wtf these terms mean anymore.

[MGB8]

I know this is stupid, but If the idea is that Al Horford is still a borderline all star center, (just in an awful fit alongside Jo), would if not make more sense to trade Embiid for Harden instead of Ben?

Then you can have a big 3 of Simmons, Harden, Horford.

Instead of having to dump Horford for scraps.

I don’t think it’s thaaaat far fetched. Open the game and floor up big time with horford, Harris, Simmons, Richardson, and harden. Watch Ben and James COOK. Then if James falls off a clif or walks in two years look we still have 3 or more years of Ben, most likely his loyalty for sticking with him, and a max slot or two with horford being not fully guaranteed the last year

Yeah, I actually think this trade, a Harden for Embiid straight swap, would make a ton of sense for both teams. For the Rockets, they get their next great center and fair value back for Harden.

For the Sixers, what I would really like is a “death lineup” of Harden-Milton-Richardson-Harris-Simmons. Horford would likely start at the 5 with Simmons at the 3/4 with Tobias, but small ball would have a lot of potential. Could add a young guard in the draft, too.

[freshie2]

Prices have been through the roof. Would have loved Jrue, but that was a huge overpay in picks. Harden's tag is way too high as well. CP3 - same. Let's see what tomorrow holds, and look for value in the Smiths, Ntilikinas, Hields, Porters, etc of the world. Still opportunities to improve the roster, just not with home runs...although I wasn't expecting a home run coming into this. My biggest piece with the current 'core' is you can't have Tobi guarding SFs...get him to the 4, get better shooters at the 2 and 3 and build from there. Ben still can be effective at the point, but Horford has to be your main big off the bench (if he's still here).

[Olabikkel]

If we Dont get harden, what Moves Will morey make?

Get fournier for jrich/scott?

Or Lets get crazy. Utah jazz wont make THE finals anytime soon i think.

Conley and d Mitchel (If we can resign him) for Harris, jrich, Milton, picks (21, 36, 2022 and 2024 first, 2021 2nd and swap 1st)? Maybe it is a longshot, but If we can convince Utah to make this move.....we have a third star which fits timeline of b. Simmons.
And Mitchell can play......we saw this in play-offs against Denver.

Something like:
Conley mle, pick
Mitchell khorkmaz
Thybulle z Smith, pick
Simmons scott, vet min
Embiid horford pelle