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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#901 » by Coxy » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:12 pm

Skybox wrote:I love this kid...I'm an ORL fan and I'd trade our unprotected first this year for Kuminga. I think he's going to be really good - a smaller Giannis...not necessarily even an All-Star, but a difference maker on both ends, in various ways. His physical profile and his attacking mentality = star power...I think him spending a humbling season with GSW (before my hypothetical trade :D ) is the best thing for his development and potential. He's getting to see how to play a role and be accountable on a REAL championship team. If he had gone to ORL (or other young team in disarray) he might be ROY candidate, scoring 20 inefficient, selfish ppg and learning nothing about winning (see Jalen Green).Have Draymond yell out defensive mistakes until the deadline and then send him to us...


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Post#902 » by SpreeChokeJob » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:36 pm

Just reviewed his plays. Overall very good. Only thing he could have done differently was pass out when there are two people moving toward him. He missed passes to Wiggins and Porter for some open threes but took an open three himself. Obviously they are better options at shooting than him.

They still need to have someone cut somewhere when he drives in and there is nothing happening, so he has a release valve to pass it to. Most of the time guys are just watching him from the three point line while he drives in. So that tells me nothing is in the playbook for him, he’s just improvising.
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Post#903 » by HiRez » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:52 pm

SpreeChokeJob wrote:Just reviewed his plays. Overall very good. Only thing he could have done differently was pass out when there are two people moving toward him. He missed passes to Wiggins and Porter for some open threes but took an open three himself. Obviously they are better options at shooting than him.

They still need to have someone cut somewhere when he drives in and there is nothing happening, so he has a release valve to pass it to. Most of the time guys are just watching him from the three point line while he drives in. So that tells me nothing is in the playbook for him, he’s just improvising.

I agree, guys need to keep moving when he isos.

But I still think he's too passive on the rebounding front, he just watches or turns and goes back the other way instead of finding a pocket and getting a body on someone. I've seen him be more aggressive a few times so I know he can do, he just has to do it more consistently.
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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#904 » by marthafokker » Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:39 am

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Skybox wrote:I love this kid...I'm an ORL fan and I'd trade our unprotected first this year for Kuminga. I think he's going to be really good - a smaller Giannis...not necessarily even an All-Star, but a difference maker on both ends, in various ways. His physical profile and his attacking mentality = star power...I think him spending a humbling season with GSW (before my hypothetical trade :D ) is the best thing for his development and potential. He's getting to see how to play a role and be accountable on a REAL championship team. If he had gone to ORL (or other young team in disarray) he might be ROY candidate, scoring 20 inefficient, selfish ppg and learning nothing about winning (see Jalen Green).Have Draymond yell out defensive mistakes until the deadline and then send him to us...


Good luck with a trade offer.


Their management screwed up. Hahaha. They could have JK and got Suggs instead.

We are going to keep him now.

Is this another light year move?
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Post#905 » by Skybox » Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:14 pm

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Skybox wrote:I love this kid...I'm an ORL fan and I'd trade our unprotected first this year for Kuminga. I think he's going to be really good - a smaller Giannis...not necessarily even an All-Star, but a difference maker on both ends, in various ways. His physical profile and his attacking mentality = star power...I think him spending a humbling season with GSW (before my hypothetical trade :D ) is the best thing for his development and potential. He's getting to see how to play a role and be accountable on a REAL championship team. If he had gone to ORL (or other young team in disarray) he might be ROY candidate, scoring 20 inefficient, selfish ppg and learning nothing about winning (see Jalen Green).Have Draymond yell out defensive mistakes until the deadline and then send him to us...


Good luck with a trade offer.


Their management screwed up. Hahaha. They could have JK and got Suggs instead.

We are going to keep him now.

Is this another light year move?


Don't get carried away. I said Kuminga looks good and I'd love to have him, but I'm glad GSW took him at 7...Franz Wagner and Suggs still makes for a pretty great draft. I wouldn't bet against Suggs and Wagner should have been top 3 or 4 in hindsight.
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Post#907 » by EvanZ » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:57 pm

Kuminga should model his game after Iggy.
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Post#908 » by GSWFan1994 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:53 pm

Kuminga should model his game after Kuminga.
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Post#909 » by Twinkie defense » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:00 pm

Kuminga looked great in the Bulls blowout.

When Warriors travelled to Memphis last week, the SeaDubs happened to have a game scheduled at the Memphis Hustle, so the team sent Kuminga and Moody down. Moses went off, but Kuminga had such a lackluster, low-effort game that he got reamed out by the coaching staff and had to do a late hour film session with Kerr. Sounds like Kuminga has taken responsibility for his lackadaisical effort and come back strong.

It's hard to be on every night - probably especially for a rookie who has started in the NBA and has to get up for a G-League game. So real good to see how he and the coaching staff responded.

Anthony Slater wrote:Jonathan Kuminga is coming off the best trip of his rookie season.

Didn’t start well for him,” Kerr said.

The Warriors flew a day early to Memphis, and their G League team happened to be scheduled for a game that night 15 minutes down the road. They assigned Moses Moody and Kuminga to Santa Cruz that night. An electrified Moody scored 37 points. A dull Kuminga floated to 11 inefficient points on 3-of-11 shooting, looking uninterested in defending or even being in the arena. The Warriors were upset with him. They sat him in the Memphis game with knee soreness.

“Yeah,” Kerr said. “He didn’t run the floor hard. It was disappointing. We talked to him about it. He understood and responded well. This is all part of the process for JK. There’s a lot to absorb and learn.”

“The G League thing … I didn’t think I played bad,” Kuminga said. “But just coming out here, even out to the G League, I need to bring the same energy every day. When I play at the G League, last time I play, I didn’t really bring a lot of energy. If I go out there, I need to bring the same work I do here.”
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Post#910 » by watch1958 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:23 pm

EvanZ wrote:Kuminga should model his game after Iggy.
Wouldn’t that be cool.
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Post#911 » by Twinkie defense » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:23 pm

Kuminga should model his game after GPII.
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Post#912 » by tarantism » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:41 am

Struggled a little defensively early in the game but I thought he turned it around quickly and put in a nice performance tonight. He really pops 2-3 times per night at least which is a very good sign.

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Post#913 » by SFrush » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:21 am

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Post#914 » by tarantism » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:30 am

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Re: Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#915 » by tarantism » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:39 am

Does anybody else feel that when Dray comes back we should look at staggering him with Curry more? Assuming Kuminga keeps his play up he can be the first guy off the bench and play as much as possible off of Curry and Klay. That's where he seems to be at his best offensively right now, rather than as an iso scorer with bench units.

Meanwhile the second unit could likely benefit from more minutes with Dray's playmaking and defensive versatility, taking some of the creative load off of Poole.

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Post#916 » by SpreeChokeJob » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:52 am

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SpreeChokeJob wrote:Just reviewed his plays. Overall very good. Only thing he could have done differently was pass out when there are two people moving toward him. He missed passes to Wiggins and Porter for some open threes but took an open three himself. Obviously they are better options at shooting than him.

They still need to have someone cut somewhere when he drives in and there is nothing happening, so he has a release valve to pass it to. Most of the time guys are just watching him from the three point line while he drives in. So that tells me nothing is in the playbook for him, he’s just improvising.

I agree, guys need to keep moving when he isos.

But I still think he's too passive on the rebounding front, he just watches or turns and goes back the other way instead of finding a pocket and getting a body on someone. I've seen him be more aggressive a few times so I know he can do, he just has to do it more consistently.


Yeah, I don't know what they teach them at AAU or high school, doesn't look like much. College would have probably helped him more than the G league. Everything is OJT for him and Wiseman. Wiseman last year looked like he stepped out the rebounding short bus.

Looks like they don't have any anticipation for the ball, so they don't position or even know where the ball is going to bounce. I remember watching Rodman's biographical TV movie and how his college coach got him to stop focusing on scoring and more on defense. The rest is history. Kerr should give his old buddy a call to teach these young kids how to play big. I love to see Rodman show up and outwork these kids now even during practice.
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Post#917 » by The-Power » Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:53 am

An energetic Kuminga is a future star.

He's had a lackadaisical effort in multiple G-League games already and that had me worried. Good to see that the coaches are fully aware of it and call him out on that. I hope it's just him being young, but the fact that they had to call him out on effort as a Rookie indicates that he's at least not naturally one of those guys that will play hard no matter what because that's just how they are wired. But I'm glad to see Kuminga respond positively (noticeable also in his recent activity on the boards) and if there's one environment where he can fulfill his potential because he's constantly reminded to put in the effort and held accountable of needed, it's here.

It's likely, though, that Kerr will have to teach him a lesson every now and then when he lacks sufficient effort. I hope people will be smart and rational enough to realize that this is part of the process and necessary to have him reach his long-term potential, and not cry about the coaching decisions when they are made (but well, probably that's a pipe dream).
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Post#918 » by superunknown » Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:04 pm

10 rodmans tonight and first DD of his career with 12 and 10. plus some great passes in motion.
kid is improving fast.
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Post#919 » by whatisacenter » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:58 pm

Steve Kerr announced Jonathan Kuminga would start at power forward before the Detroit game and, after a tantalizing but mistake-filled Kuminga performance, he said the “plan” was to stick with Kuminga and that starting group.

“With Draymond out, it feels like a good time to play JK with Steph and Klay and Loon,” Kerr said. “He’s a natural big wing slash small-five. You could throw him anywhere defensively. So we really want to see what he looks like in that starting group. … He’s earned this.”

Kuminga is going to be something special...so happy that the team revamped their coaching staff to take advantage of the potential of their 3 lottery picks.
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Post#920 » by HiRez » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:59 pm

superunknown wrote:10 rodmans tonight and first DD of his career with 12 and 10. plus some great passes in motion.
kid is improving fast.

Looked ok, got the 10 boards but I think he could have actually had more, he's still passive too often. Definitely had at least a few passes that could have been assists but the guys he passed to just didn't hit the shots.

He's still hesitating a bit on his shoot/drive decisions and I think that split second delay is costing him some easy opportunities. But I think that's going to naturally work itself out and he'll get more instinctive with his decisions, which is going to make him even more dangerous.

One other thing I noticed is sometimes he dribbles in traffic when he doesn't really have to, he has an incredible stride, reach, and ability to get off the ground and float, and he can cover a ton of floor space without dribbling. He's got OK handles but anytime you put the ball on the floor inside, you're asking for trouble.

There was also one time where Curry hit him with a nice pass that should have gone for an easy dunk but he couldn't catch the ball so the hands are still a little bit of a concern. Again, that could just be a processing speed thing and not being 100% in sync and ready for what Steph creates yet.

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