Metta World Peace elbow to Harden

[Wone]

Like I said about Ron. I have no problem with what he did.

Aaaaand that's where you lose all credibility.

I'm not going to feel bad for Harden.

The guy has already faked an elbow to the head this year.

He is the one who crept up on Ron from behind, while knowing he wasn't looking much like he did versus Dallas. He is the guy who made no basketball play. He wasn't going to where the ball would be inbounded as Perkins had not picked up the ball and both Westbrook and Durant were in position already.

He chose to take six steps and creep up behind Ron. He wasn't in the dunk Ron made so it want like he was chasing him down. He got behind him, lowered himself like a defensive player while OKC had the ball, put his head where Ron's arm pit is, and leaned into him to body bump him while celebrating and pandering to the crowd.

Harden made the choice to run up under Artest while he was being Tarzan. He made the choice not to make a basketball play. He made the choice to try and recreate the dumbass fake an elbow to the head stunt he pulled this season already.

His choice put him in a situation to get hit. Him lowering his head to that level and leaning in put him in a spot to be hit in the dome.

He didn't calculate himself actually taking a hit this time, but it was his conscious decisions that got him knocked the **** out and his dome rocked. He should have never been in that position. He was playing cheap in a way to put Ron in a scenario where he would be able to flop and with Ron's past the ref would make the knee jerk decision and throw Ron out or else at least give him a flagrant 1. He didn't factor in taking a real shot, but his dumb ass went barking up that tree and got what he was looking for, not what he intended to sell, but he got what he was for as no one put him in the spot to be hit but himself.

Ron didn't go head hunting. Ron didn't go looking and say where is he so I can hit him.

how do you know ron artest would still have done taht had harden not been there? who celebrates like tarzan with elbow wind up and swing?

[DCsportsallday]

Like I said about Ron. I have no problem with what he did.

Aaaaand that's where you lose all credibility.

I'm not going to feel bad for Harden.

The guy has already faked an elbow to the head this year.

He is the one who crept up on Ron from behind, while knowing he wasn't looking much like he did versus Dallas. He is the guy who made no basketball play. He wasn't going to where the ball would be inbounded as Perkins had not picked up the ball and both Westbrook and Durant were in position already.

He chose to take six steps and creep up behind Ron. He wasn't in the dunk Ron made so it want like he was chasing him down. He got behind him, lowered himself like a defensive player while OKC had the ball, put his head where Ron's arm pit is, and leaned into him to body bump him while celebrating and pandering to the crowd.

Harden made the choice to run up under Artest while he was being Tarzan. He made the choice not to make a basketball play. He made the choice to try and recreate the dumbass fake an elbow to the head stunt he pulled this season already.

His choice put him in a situation to get hit. Him lowering his head to that level and leaning in put him in a spot to be hit in the dome.

He didn't calculate himself actually taking a hit this time, but it was his conscious decisions that got him knocked the **** out and his dome rocked. He should have never been in that position. He was playing cheap in a way to put Ron in a scenario where he would be able to flop and with Ron's past the ref would make the knee jerk decision and throw Ron out or else at least give him a flagrant 1. He didn't factor in taking a real shot, but his dumb ass went barking up that tree and got what he was looking for, not what he intended to sell, but he got what he was for as no one put him in the spot to be hit but himself.

Ron didn't go head hunting. Ron didn't go looking and say where is he so I can hit him.

I've seen biases push people to resort to the biggest bs on the planet to explain away horrible plays/situations. But this takes the cake. For sure.

[M4P]

The people that are calling for Artest to be banned for life are overreacting imo... It looked unintentional from an outsider's perspective. 2 - 3 games should do.

Yeah, totally unintentional



What is wrong with some of you people. I can't believe what I am reading.

Lock this trollfest

Not once did he make eye contact with Harden. He didn't even notice that he was there.

[Nono]

He got what he wanted. Harden was 5-7 and 14 pts at that point. No doubt either Kobe or Mike Woodson told him to do it. What can you expect from the Lakers though, with their fans cheering MWP. Absolutely classless.

[Black Feet]

The people that are calling for Artest to be banned for life are overreacting imo... It looked unintentional from an outsider's perspective. 2 - 3 games should do.

Wat. did you not see it? Ron winded up, and then when he got contact he didn't even look back. if it was unintentional dont you think he would have acted suprised or looked to see what happened?

And for those who don't want a lifetime ban, imagine if Ron does this to your favorite player next year. except this time he hits them in their neck and they can't play basketball ever again. because every time he steps on the court he puts the opposing team, coaches, and fans in serious danger.

Imagine if Shaq would have connected when he swung a fist at Miller he would be dead. There have been worse hits/fouls this season, the league should be consistent.

[M4P]

He got what he wanted. Harden was 5-7 and 14 pts at that point. No doubt either Kobe or Mike Woodson told him to do it. What can you expect from the Lakers though, with their fans cheering MWP. Absolutely classless.

[sportjames23]

but kicked out of the league permanently? I THOUGHT AMERICA WAS THE LAND OF SECOND CHANCES?

LOL, for real, yo? You serious? I think he's way past his second chance.

I like Artest (yeah, I called him Artest--his mama call him Ron, I'ma call him Ron), but he hit Harden intentionally and could have seriously hurt him. I don't want the man kicked out of the game or suspended for the playoffs, but with his history I wouldn't be surprised if Stern didn't go ham on his ass.

[MastaStrategist]

They are taking out their frustrations, and perhaps even looking for ways to cheat. They did it last year. If you think that makes them quitters or whatever, then sure. But there's no question that's what they did last year, and arguably, what they did this year. Attempt to take out players from a real contender.

With all that said, I think he'll get 6-8 games. Maybe more if Harden misses games, but I don't expect him to be kicked out of the league or anything that severe.

If you think being the 3-seed in the West = being frustrated enough to take players out and "look for ways to cheat" then I can't help you man.

Sure, based on record that would mean a likely 2nd round exit. They may even end up playing the team that swept them last year in the first round! If you look at the result of that elbow today, he took Harden out. I'd say that's a pretty good trade off for the Lakers, and now they add the possibility that Harden is STILL out if the Lakers can even make it to the 2nd round. Given their recent history, there's a good case to be made that they've resulted to dirty tactics to gain an advantage, and to hurt the chances of teams better than they are. Not a surprise he did this to OKC, and not SAC.

So you think the Lakers came into the game thinking "Let's take as many of these f***ers out as we can because we are too scared to play them at full strength in the playoffs"? Ok, gotcha

[TheRightAnswer]

Like I said about Ron. I have no problem with what he did. Give him 2-3 games. I also don't feel sorry for Harden as he pulled the same stunt versus Dallas this year when a player wasn't looking his way, where he faked an elbow to the ear like he was hurt when he wasn't just to turn a game.

Harden got hit because he put himself in the spot to be hit. He wasn't coming to get the ball as it hadn't even been picked up by a Thunder player to be inbounded and the ref picked it up. He wasn't in the wrong place as he wasn't part of the dunk. He purposely put himself there head at Rons armpit like he did versus Dallas with the idea of flopping to turn the momentum of the game and probably get Rn tossed off a refs natural instinct when Ron is in a scuffle or ugly play, and he just wasn't quick enough so he got knocked out for it.

Harden put his head and face in there, he just happened to have a glass jaw and feel a real hit this time. No concussion for him thankfully, but hopefully it teaches him to stop with the bs that he has tried to pull twice now this year. Likewise Ron earned the games by hitting him according to the letter of the law, it it shouldn't be excessive as the precedent is 1-2 games as Dwight has shown with the way he throws elbows while looking at guys

"a glass jaw" lol

Artest is a 6'9 testosterone-jacked manimal, tough guy. those arent your mother's elbows. any person with any ounce of ethical standards knows what he did was straight up bull, whether your "Harden started it" scenario is true or not. elbow to the head =/= bump; same with going into the stands punvhing random people =/= getting empty cup of beer tossed at you. you're logic gets people in prison, congratulations.

[Kobe2ndFiddle]

The people that are calling for Artest to be banned for life are overreacting imo... It looked unintentional from an outsider's perspective. 2 - 3 games should do.

Yeah, totally unintentional



What is wrong with some of you people. I can't believe what I am reading.

Lock this trollfest

Not once did he make eye contact with Harden. He didn't even notice that he was there.

don't do this man ... c'mon.

[starvinmarvin17]

nothing against the Lakers but this guy should not be around people. He probably should be somewhere where outside contact with society does not exist. preferably with walls to keep him in and others out. He should be fed his food maybe through a door of some sort to keep him in. If only someplace like that existed?

[TheHartBreakKid]

The guy has already faked an elbow to the head this year.

Who cares? NOBODY deserves to get hit like that. NOBODY.

See, thats a cool point and all..but I have no doubt in my mind knowing your posting history that if it was Kobe that got elbowed you wouldn't be saying any of this. Like I said your anti-Laker agenda that you haven't even attempted to hide makes it hard to take your opinions on this topic seriously. And I agree with you that nobody deserves to get hit like that

[taj2133]

This is not a dead ball play the wistle wasn't blown after his dunk ron artest knew what he was doing any why he is he celebrating with his elbows he is very stupid person.

[CollegeToPros]

Where to begin. I don't even know. the hit was ridiculous and the people defending this are as bad because my head is hurting like Harden's trying to comprehend how someone defends a deliberate shot to the temple. Notice I didnt say bball court, bc in real life, YOU GO TO JAIL for this ****.

I don't think I will ever respond to a laker fans comments after seeing and reading all of this.

[MastaStrategist]

He got what he wanted. Harden was 5-7 and 14 pts at that point. No doubt either Kobe or Mike Woodson told him to do it. What can you expect from the Lakers though, with their fans cheering MWP. Absolutely classless.

Do you really believe a single sentence in that post besides the 2nd one?

[M4P]

This is just like that year when Kobe kneed Battier in the face. It was unintentional. If the league is going to ban Artest for life then they sure as hell better be consistent with how they handle their infractions in the future.

[GrangerDanger]

Somebody should make a 10 minute mix of all of Ron's punk moments. that would show people the animal this guy is and how he doesnt deserve another chance

[Litany]

The people that are calling for Artest to be banned for life are overreacting imo... It looked unintentional from an outsider's perspective. 2 - 3 games should do.

Yeah, totally unintentional



What is wrong with some of you people. I can't believe what I am reading.

Lock this trollfest

Not once did he make eye contact with Harden. He didn't even notice that he was there.

I can't tell if you are kidding.

If it was unintentional no way he keeps running in celebration. If it was unintentional he would have looked at Harden after slamming him in the head.

Also, they make contact before he winds up the elbow, which meant he knew he was there. You can't be this foolish.

I am being trolled, don't know why I bother.

[MastaStrategist]

Where to begin. I don't even know. the hit was ridiculous and the people defending this are as bad because my head is hurting like Harden's trying to comprehend how someone defends a deliberate shot to the temple. Notice I didnt say bball court, bc in real life, YOU GO TO JAIL for this ****.

I don't think I will ever respond to a laker fans comments after seeing and reading all of this.

Actually, there have been plenty of non-laker fans who agreed he did not try to injure Harden and that it was just a heat-of-the-moment get out of my way swing.

[DCsportsallday]

The guy has already faked an elbow to the head this year.

Who cares? NOBODY deserves to get hit like that. NOBODY.

See, thats a cool point and all..but I have no doubt in my mind knowing your posting history that if it was Kobe that got elbowed you wouldn't be saying any of this. Like I said your anti-Laker agenda that you haven't even attempted to hide makes it hard to take your opinions on this topic seriously. And I agree with you that nobody deserves to get hit like that

Ok, how about the fact that most of the people sticking up for Artest are Lakers/Knicks (probably the NY hometown thing) fans. There's bias everywhere. Stop assuming that we're out to get Artest or something. We just want to see that players who do stupid things get a punishment that stops that crap from happening again.

Besides, none of what we say on this board matters, at all. There is only one person who can decide Artest's fate, and I seriously doubt he reads Realgm threads.