2022 NBA Draft - Prospects Discussion

[Licensed to Il]

OK, I take back my original post as three people have now crapped on it. Let me rephrase: in my humble opinion drafting a center who can’t shoot in 2022 and expecting him to contribute in meaningful ways on a title team is a poor gamble.

Not every player who has been a poor shooter is equal. Some can be fixed; some can't. I'm not a shooting guru, so I can't tell one from another (though I know if the guy shoots FTs ok, he has a good chance of becoming a decent shooter).

I have worked as a skills/shooting trainer, albeit with high school level athletes. I do think Kessler teases some things that often project as traits good shooters have. Hubie Brown famously (in coaching circles) claims anyone can become a 40% three point shooter (with feet set from the corner). As pointed out earlier, the Bucks current staff has some success improving guys in this area. I will confidently say he is two years away from being a good shooter, and thats best case scenario. All I was trying to point out was there are guys that will be there for us that are almost certainly the same level or better, and ready to contribute sooner.

The kid is a lighter and springier Pryzbilla. And maybe he finds Bow Wow’s shoes from “Like Mike”
and becomes a great perimeter shooter. But I don’t see it.

[benultimate]

Great vertical athlete and passable distance shooter on spot-ups, but I'm just not seeing anything special beyond a journeyman wing with a solid but unspectacular 7-8 year career.

Aka a Staukas?

[WRau1]

I wouldn't be disappointed if we ended up w/ Kessler, he appears to have a Giannis like worth ethic and has a ton of tools to work with.

[LuessiT]

Read on Twitter

This may shake things up.

[benultimate]

Did not see that coming. Paolo 1st, wow

[JayMKE]

Kessler has translatable +skills and an obvious development track, if he's got the work ethic/toughness/IQ down to get better then I'm not worried about him either and think the coaches should have him contributing quickly if that's the direction we go.

Way more worried about drafting a toolsy guy that does nothing elite that its been easy for until now who only sort of likes basketball, runs hot cold, and low IQ on and off the court.

[DrWood]

When's the last time the Bucks drafted a dude without even the projection of a jump shot?

Especially after how we lost to the Celtics. Playable shooting should be a requirement for any roster acquisition.

To make this board quiver, my list:
Jaden, Baldwin, Nikola*


* i watch zero basketball outside of NBA, did zero analysis and those are the names I recognize. I need someone to pretend to care about going into the draft lol

maybe you're just not being clear, but those 3 guys don't have a record of making many 3s.

[Badgerlander]

Kessler seems like a poor man’s Hassan Whiteside and how long did it take for him to make it in the nba? If he has a great work ethic then why does he show up at the combine with the second highest body fat? 100 3s a day in practice sounds like a low number

[midranger]

Great vertical athlete and passable distance shooter on spot-ups, but I'm just not seeing anything special beyond a journeyman wing with a solid but unspectacular 7-8 year career.

Aka a Staukas?

[Fotis St]

Who is a good comp for Braun?

Braun is my pick at #24
He is a Huerter with a bit slower release BUT has more athleticism , muscle, passion and motor.
I believe this is enough for me to pick him up.
We need athleticism at the perimeter and shooting, and we should bank on his potential.
Adding him on my signature.

[BigO]

Kessler has translatable +skills and an obvious development track, if he's got the work ethic/toughness/IQ down to get better then I'm not worried about him either and think the coaches should have him contributing quickly if that's the direction we go.

Way more worried about drafting a toolsy guy that does nothing elite that its been easy for until now who only sort of likes basketball, runs hot cold, and low IQ on and off the court.

Kessler is unswitchable, the exact opposite of what the league is moving toward. How are you ever going to play a switching defense with him on the floor? You're hamstringing your defensive options with a guy like Kessler on the floor.

[Matches Malone]

I'm ready to be disappointed tonight.

[LuessiT]

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Woj vs. Vegas, FIGHT!

[JayMKE]

Kessler has translatable +skills and an obvious development track, if he's got the work ethic/toughness/IQ down to get better then I'm not worried about him either and think the coaches should have him contributing quickly if that's the direction we go.

Way more worried about drafting a toolsy guy that does nothing elite that its been easy for until now who only sort of likes basketball, runs hot cold, and low IQ on and off the court.

Kessler is unswitchable, the exact opposite of what the league is moving toward. How are you ever going to play a switching defense with him on the floor? You're hamstringing your defensive options with a guy like Kessler on the floor.

I haven't seen any indication from Budenholzer that he's going to change his defense and rim protection is always going to be valuable, Brook's absence really hurt our defense all year so I think the role we would want him to play is very defined. Kessler imo has pretty high floor and defined role in the NBA, can do way worse than that at 24. It really upsets me that guys like Lopez are being legislated out of the game, that guy is amazingly gifted player and the NBA gives him a big middle finger but that's a tangent. Reality is we got to find guys who can contribute in specific ways, the upside picks where we're at are very unlikely to turn out and usually guys who make it later on are ones who were overlooked for some reason instead, why were Nikola Jokic and Malcolm Brogdon taken in the 2nd round?

Drafting another Brook would be fine, we don't want to draft another DJ Wilson or Rashaun Vaughn.

[MikeIsGood]

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Woj vs. Vegas, FIGHT!

Hah - I just saw this about Vegas and Banchero and wasn't sure if y'all had discussed this yet. Kind of crazy. Love not really knowing what's going to happen.

In case anyone missed it, Paolo Banchero is now Vegas' odds-on favorite to go #1 despite all talk to the contrary the past 48 hours in the media. And we don't know why since, presumably, it's not the way the betting was going given the media narrative.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nba-draft-odds-paolo-banchero-new-betting-favorite-2022-no-1-overall

[MVP2110]

Isn't NBAdraft.net the site that has nailed a bunch of our picks in the past?

Well this morning they updated their mock to having us taking Jaylin Williams from Arkansas.

[jschligs]

I'm going to be real bummed when we trade our pick and don't make a pick tonight. I just feel it coming.

[BigO]

Kessler has translatable +skills and an obvious development track, if he's got the work ethic/toughness/IQ down to get better then I'm not worried about him either and think the coaches should have him contributing quickly if that's the direction we go.

Way more worried about drafting a toolsy guy that does nothing elite that its been easy for until now who only sort of likes basketball, runs hot cold, and low IQ on and off the court.

Kessler is unswitchable, the exact opposite of what the league is moving toward. How are you ever going to play a switching defense with him on the floor? You're hamstringing your defensive options with a guy like Kessler on the floor.

I haven't seen any indication from Budenholzer that he's going to change his defense and rim protection is always going to be valuable, Brook's absence really hurt our defense all year so I think the role we would want him to play is very defined. Kessler imo has pretty high floor and defined role in the NBA, can do way worse than that at 24. It really upsets me that guys like Lopez are being legislated out of the game, that guy is amazingly gifted player and the NBA gives him a big middle finger but that's a tangent. Reality is we got to find guys who can contribute in specific ways, the upside picks where we're at are very unlikely to turn out and usually guys who make it later on are ones who were overlooked for some reason instead, why were Nikola Jokic and Malcolm Brogdon taken in the 2nd round?

Drafting another Brook would be fine, we don't want to draft another DJ Wilson or Rashaun Vaughn.

There's a lot of things I don't like about the current NBA. The increasing reliance on the three pointer, the demise of the post up game and several other things. But in the current iteration of the NBA, Kessler is a dinosaur.

It may be wishful thinking on my part, but I think a big reason the Bucks don't play more of a switching man defense is that they don't have the personnel to do it. Passive defenses like the drop don't cut it when the game is on the line and you need to get stops. I'd much rather get a switchable wing defender with some offensive upside and I think (and hope) that's what they're going to do.

[Matches Malone]

Isn't NBAdraft.net the site that has nailed a bunch of our picks in the past?

Well this morning they updated their mock to having us taking Jaylin Williams from Arkansas.

[buckboy]

Who is a good comp for Braun?

Braun is my pick at #24
He is a Huerter with a bit slower release BUT has more athleticism , muscle, passion and motor.
I believe this is enough for me to pick him up.
We need athleticism at the perimeter and shooting, and we should bank on his potential.
Adding him on my signature.

DAMMIT