Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks (NO TPE)

WRau1 · Post #961 » by **WRau1** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:23 pm

**** this lame ownership group, they've made nothing but bad moves since they got here. Inheriting Giannis is the only thing saving them.

HaroldinGMinor · Post #962 » by **HaroldinGMinor** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:26 pm

WRau1 wrote:**** this lame ownership group, they've made nothing but bad moves since they got here. Inheriting Giannis is the only thing saving them.

Signing Lopez last year was dumb. Trading for George Hill was dumb.

ajb905 · Post #963 » by **ajb905** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:29 pm

I won't hold my breath but it would be nice if Milwaukee journalists hold Horst's feet to the fire about the luxury tax. For a team in championship contention, it is ridiculous that it would limit the team from getting better. billionaires!

Post #964 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:51 pm

HaroldinGMinor wrote:
WRau1 wrote:**** this lame ownership group, they've made nothing but bad moves since they got here. Inheriting Giannis is the only thing saving them.

Signing Lopez last year was dumb. Trading for George Hill was dumb.

Hiring Bud. Dumb.

Diggr14 · Post #965 » by **Diggr14** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:06 pm

They are probably trying to keep the bottom line clean in case they decide to sell the team in the next few years. Lots of reasons for this. I’d bet they sell in the next 5 years.

SirChurros · Post #966 » by **SirChurros** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:07 pm

ajb905 wrote:I won't hold my breath but it would be nice if Milwaukee journalists hold Horst's feet to the fire about the luxury tax. For a team in championship contention, it is ridiculous that it would limit the team from getting better. billionaires!

Wait, why hold Horst's feet to the fire and not ownership? I think its very clear that ownership is cheap with a capital C.

Post #967 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:15 pm

Again, they're in line to be paying the luxury tax next season. Now, if they somehow duck that with all our big ticket salaries (like, dump Khris or Bledsoe or Hill for salary purposes) then I'll get fired up.

emunney · Post #968 » by **emunney** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:21 pm

ajb905 wrote:I won't hold my breath but it would be nice if Milwaukee journalists hold Horst's feet to the fire about the luxury tax. For a team in championship contention, it is ridiculous that it would limit the team from getting better. billionaires!

The entire Brogdon transaction, really, if we lost the TPE. Not only did we lose a starter, but we don't have the means to add talent without using salary on our end, and all of our rostered salary of any consequence is now tied up in rotational players. So we lose a significant family of options in terms of upgrading our roster in the face of a downgrade. Very disappointing.

WRau1 · Post #969 » by **WRau1** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:23 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
HaroldinGMinor wrote:
WRau1 wrote:**** this lame ownership group, they've made nothing but bad moves since they got here. Inheriting Giannis is the only thing saving them.

Signing Lopez last year was dumb. Trading for George Hill was dumb.

Hiring Bud. Dumb.

Lopez doesn't sign here without Giannis. Bud doesn't coach here without Giannis. Giannis is the only thing this franchise has.

worthlessBucks · Post #970 » by **worthlessBucks** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:27 pm

HaroldinGMinor wrote:
tski1972 wrote:but I thought Horst was a cap expert?

what other lies have we been told?

Coke Zero tastes just like regular Coke.

OT, trying to get me some of that New Coke that's out. Been so long.

HaroldinGMinor · Post #971 » by **HaroldinGMinor** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:31 pm

WRau1 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
HaroldinGMinor wrote:
Signing Lopez last year was dumb. Trading for George Hill was dumb.

Hiring Bud. Dumb.

Lopez doesn't sign here without Giannis. Bud doesn't coach here without Giannis. Giannis is the only thing this franchise has.

Fiserv Forum doesn't get built without Giannis, Cats and Dogs living together if not for Giannis, Ebola spreads across US if not for Giannis....

Beorn · Post #972 » by **Beorn** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:31 pm

Letting the TPE go is bad business, if someone who is an upgrade to our current roster is available and fits the TPE you have lost the opportunity for improvement; you can always shed a contract parting with a minor asset, a la Snell.

Chuck Diesel · Post #973 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:44 pm

Yeah whatever. Wake me up when they trade Giannis for Chandler Parsons.

mke_design · Post #974 » by **mke_design** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:47 pm

We renounced the TPE

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mke_design · Post #975 » by **mke_design** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:48 pm

ajb905 wrote:I won't hold my breath but it would be nice if Milwaukee journalists hold Horst's feet to the fire about the luxury tax. For a team in championship contention, it is ridiculous that it would limit the team from getting better. billionaires!

It’s not Horsts call - ask Sam Presti

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truly · Post #976 » by **truly** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:58 pm

The answer to all of this is probably repeater tax.

Post #977 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:10 pm

truly wrote:The answer to all of this is probably repeater tax.

You still fight for that TPE. You don't have to spend all $10mm of it and put yourself in the luxury tax.

If all it took was guaranteeing George Hill an extra $700k to $1mm on his final year, you do that.

tydett · Post #978 » by **tydett** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:18 pm

I'm really sad about the TPE news, but I guess, are we really surprised that a team that doesn't seem to understand assets (or RFA, for that matter) at all didn't properly arrange for one more avenue to create an asset?

If Hinkie were GM (assuming all the same moves - even though I doubt he re-signs MIddleton), zero percent chance that the Bucks don't have a TPE right now.

buckboy · Post #979 » by **buckboy** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:48 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
HaroldinGMinor wrote:
WRau1 wrote:**** this lame ownership group, they've made nothing but bad moves since they got here. Inheriting Giannis is the only thing saving them.

Signing Lopez last year was dumb. Trading for George Hill was dumb.

Hiring Bud. Dumb.

Trading the 28thish pick in next year's draft for Eric Bledsoe. Dumb.

KidA24 · Post #980 » by **KidA24** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:49 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:Maybe he meant cap expert as in hats.