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[StickeeFingaz]

Lopez + Augustine for Khem Birch + Terrence Ross. Would still likely need to pick up a big body off the scrap heap, just to bang with other bigs.

Starting 5 of Jrue/Donte/Khris/Giannis/Portis.

Closing 5 of Jrue/Donte/Ross/Khris/Giannis.

Need to always have 1 of Jrue/Khris/Giannis on the floor for ball handling.

I don't know. Guess it doesn't make sense for Orlando since they have Vuc.

Maybe get the Blazers involved, they might be interested in upgrading with Nurk out.

MKE: Ross, Birch
ORL: Augustin, Hood, Giles (or Little, up to PDX)
PDX: Lopez

Ross can handle it a bit too, he's been forced into it a lot this past week.

I worry about our interior defense but that's why I think we'd need to pick up a big big to at least provide some rim protection if need be. Not sure where that guy comes from though.

[giannis and 1]

Lopez + Augustine for Khem Birch + Terrence Ross. Would still likely need to pick up a big body off the scrap heap, just to bang with other bigs.

Starting 5 of Jrue/Donte/Khris/Giannis/Portis.

Closing 5 of Jrue/Donte/Ross/Khris/Giannis.

Need to always have 1 of Jrue/Khris/Giannis on the floor for ball handling.

I don't know. Guess it doesn't make sense for Orlando since they have Vuc.

I like it. How is Ross defensively? Positive, negative, or neutral?

[trwi7]

Bad time to mention that Bledsoe is hitting 40% of his 3's, George Hill was above his career average PER before getting hurt, and Pritchard and Quickley, both drafted right after the #24 pick the Bucks gave up in the deal, are both already significantly better than DJA? Something tells me it's a bad time...

The Bucks gave up depth for a tighter playoff rotation in the one season where depth is literally more important than it's ever been, arguably by far, because of the condensed schedule. Not that the regular season matters that much, but this damn well better pay off in the playoffs.

I called the Jrue trade possibly the worst move I've seen one of my teams make, right up there with drafting Mandarich. I think I was being kind. Jrue is good but #24 and a future first should have been enough.

Are you saying pick #24 and a future first for Jrue should have been enough to get him? If yes, that’s insane.

The Jrue trade is some Jabari > Lillard, won't-trade-Jennings-for-CP3 level Kool-Aid but I'm glad so many of you enjoy the taste. Jrue is a top 25-30 player with one year left on his deal and he might require a 5/$190m deal to stay more than that one year. And Giannis keeping those picks low for 7 (YES, SEVEN) more year years is positively delusional.

It's arguably one of the dumbest trades I've ever seen in the NBA. Anyone who doesn't see it that way probably isn't taking the contract situation and the long-term outlook of those picks into account.

Contract situation and picks aren't even the biggest issue for me. Jrue was the "this is it" move. If this doesn't work, what the **** do you even do to improve the team? You're basically ****.

[StickeeFingaz]

Lopez + Augustine for Khem Birch + Terrence Ross. Would still likely need to pick up a big body off the scrap heap, just to bang with other bigs.

Starting 5 of Jrue/Donte/Khris/Giannis/Portis.

Closing 5 of Jrue/Donte/Ross/Khris/Giannis.

Need to always have 1 of Jrue/Khris/Giannis on the floor for ball handling.

I don't know. Guess it doesn't make sense for Orlando since they have Vuc.

I like it. How is Ross defensively? Positive, negative, or neutral?

I'd say negative. I'm thinking with Lopez gone, Bud could get away from the drop defense, Birch is more versatile defensively but not a rim protector. Portis gets an increase in minutes.

Ross would be fine defensively in a lineup with Jrue/Donte/Khris/Giannis.

[WRau1]

How many more allstar level talents do we have to surround Giannis with (or more appropriately, give to coach Bud) before we're legit contenders? We have the b2b MVP/reigning dpoty and 2 all nba level talents in Middleton and Jrue. Shouldn't that be enough to not look as bad as we do?

[tski1972]

If Jrue re-signs for $30M/year the team has 80-85% of their payroll used up for three players, closer to 90% if they can’t dump Brook.

If Jrue doesn’t re-sign, they’ve lost any chance to facilitate trades because their cupboard is bare.

Neither scenario is ideal.

[ShootingtheJ]

Lopez + Augustine for Khem Birch + Terrence Ross. Would still likely need to pick up a big body off the scrap heap, just to bang with other bigs.

Starting 5 of Jrue/Donte/Khris/Giannis/Portis.

Closing 5 of Jrue/Donte/Ross/Khris/Giannis.

Need to always have 1 of Jrue/Khris/Giannis on the floor for ball handling.

I don't know. Guess it doesn't make sense for Orlando since they have Vuc.

Orlando is more likely looking to trade a center, not add one, as they also have Bamba.

Ross was in decline last year and has been bad this year. His shot has disappeared.

[ShootingtheJ]

If Jrue re-signs for $30M/year the team has 80-85% of their payroll used up for three players, closer to 90% if they can’t dump Brook.

If Jrue doesn’t re-sign, they’ve lost any chance to facilitate trades because their cupboard is bare.

Neither scenario is ideal.

It's fine, that's how most contenders are structured. Also, there's no limit to the payroll, ownership will just need to stop being cheap. They won't be hardcapped next year.

[jakecronus8]

If Jrue re-signs for $30M/year the team has 80-85% of their payroll used up for three players, closer to 90% if they can’t dump Brook.

If Jrue doesn’t re-sign, they’ve lost any chance to facilitate trades because their cupboard is bare.

Neither scenario is ideal.

It's fine, that's how most contenders are structured. Also, there's no limit to the payroll, ownership will just need to stop being cheap. They won't be hardcapped next year.

The problem is that top 3 is not a title core and there’s no means to add to it.

[drone3]

There's no way out of this roster construction. May as well play the rooks now and hope they develop in time. Move Brook to the second unit, try sell DJA.

[StickeeFingaz]

Lopez + Augustine for Khem Birch + Terrence Ross. Would still likely need to pick up a big body off the scrap heap, just to bang with other bigs.

Starting 5 of Jrue/Donte/Khris/Giannis/Portis.

Closing 5 of Jrue/Donte/Ross/Khris/Giannis.

Need to always have 1 of Jrue/Khris/Giannis on the floor for ball handling.

I don't know. Guess it doesn't make sense for Orlando since they have Vuc.

Orlando is more likely looking to trade a center, not add one, as they also have Bamba.

Ross was in decline last year and has been bad this year. His shot has disappeared.

I understand your comment re: Orlando and centers, maybe RiotPunch's revision makes more sense then.

Don't look at Ross's stat line from tonight

[skones]

Dedmon and Oquinn literally don't have teams right now. You want to bolster depth? There's your answer. Problem? No money.

[DingleJerry]

If Jrue re-signs for $30M/year the team has 80-85% of their payroll used up for three players, closer to 90% if they can’t dump Brook.

If Jrue doesn’t re-sign, they’ve lost any chance to facilitate trades because their cupboard is bare.

Neither scenario is ideal.

It's fine, that's how most contenders are structured. Also, there's no limit to the payroll, ownership will just need to stop being cheap. They won't be hardcapped next year.

The problem is that top 3 is not a title core and there’s no means to add to it.

If this trio can't do it the eventual move will be one of Khris/Jrue is traded for another star who pushes his way out of somewhere and try it with that trio. IMO it has to be a bucket getter lead ballhandler. Theoretically by the time that happens we'll be moved along in the owed picks so more flex there, and maybe you'll have hit on some picks of your own or under radar as pieces to trade and/or help out on depth. Of course first step will be trade Lopez next year and reshuffle the bench and see how it goes from there. I'm talking after like 2-3 more years on the trade of the other two stars. We'll be rapidly approaching Giannis age 30 by then though and the pressure will be piled up. I think 2019 blown game 3 is gonna haunt them for a long time.

Saw some Bamba mentions thrown around for other teams. I'd really be trying to get him from hambone as a hopefully cheap replacement for Brook if he works out. You'd think they're friendly with each other to make something work.

[LuessiT]

i could talk about our roster in a lot of depth but what's hopefully perfectly clear is that we need to replace DJA. What we'd need in his place is ideally someone who's capable of hitting an open 3 (even with a closeout) along with the capabilitiy of defending their position at an above average level. Now I know that these requirements aren't exactly common but there are some players that fulfill the asking price:

Frank Ntilikina: Doesnt't see play under Thibs (but wasn't included in the Rose trade), A. Bradley (been injured during the Heat woes), A lot of other potential guards

There may be a lot of other player who fullfill these requirements but honestly I'm not capabale enough to keep track. What I know is that Horst created a major mess around our roster but luckily I do think he's got time enough to fix it.

[drone3]

Dedmon and Oquinn literally don't have teams right now. You want to bolster depth? There's your answer. Problem? No money.

Dedmon would bring some needed energy.

[Fotis St]

I would like to swap "superstars" with Dallas...
Khris + Brook + Donte for Porzingis + THJ
https://tradenba.com/trades/3S5reHCnq

Giannis is happy cause he gets his only one superstar NBA friend ... KP

[ShootingtheJ]

Philly is looking for a veteran ball handler. We have just the guy.

Bucks in: Malik Monk
Bucks out: DJA

76ers in: DJA
76ers: Tony Bradley

Hornets in: Tony Bradley
Hornets out: Malik Monk

Hornets upgrade their center depth with a young player. Monk allows the Bucks to go to a 3 man rotation at guard, his athletism fits our system.

[Bucksfan28]

We need Terrence Ross

[RiotPunch]

i could talk about our roster in a lot of depth but what's hopefully perfectly clear is that we need to replace DJA. What we'd need in his place is ideally someone who's capable of hitting an open 3 (even with a closeout) along with the capabilitiy of defending their position at an above average level. Now I know that these requirements aren't exactly common but there are some players that fulfill the asking price:

Frank Ntilikina: Doesnt't see play under Thibs (but wasn't included in the Rose trade), A. Bradley (been injured during the Heat woes), A lot of other potential guards

There may be a lot of other player who fullfill these requirements but honestly I'm not capabale enough to keep track. What I know is that Horst created a major mess around our roster but luckily I do think he's got time enough to fix it.

Rozier. Just not sure how we pry him away. He's been fantastic playing off-ball with LaMelo.

[coolhandluke121]

The Jrue trade is some Jabari > Lillard, won't-trade-Jennings-for-CP3 level Kool-Aid but I'm glad so many of you enjoy the taste. Jrue is a top 25-30 player with one year left on his deal and he might require a 5/$190m deal to stay more than that one year. And Giannis keeping those picks low for 7 (YES, SEVEN) more year years is positively delusional.

It's arguably one of the dumbest trades I've ever seen in the NBA. Anyone who doesn't see it that way probably isn't taking the contract situation and the long-term outlook of those picks into account.

Contract situation and picks aren't even the biggest issue for me. Jrue was the "this is it" move. If this doesn't work, what the **** do you even do to improve the team? You're basically ****.

Yeah, that's another way to look at it. I'm not even saying I'm opposed to giving up all those picks for a really good player on an expiring deal, but make sure it's reasonably fair value - preferably a younger player whose Bird Rights are not a mixed blessing - and be patient about it. Don't just blow your wad on the first nice piece of side-boob you see.