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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#981 » by truth18 » Sat Nov 5, 2016 6:23 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:Agreed. It's probably someone trying to connect the dots by assuming Brett Brown's past affiliation with Cory Joseph would make for a desired reunion.


Why not Delon Wright then?


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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#982 » by XtremeDunkz » Sat Nov 5, 2016 6:26 pm

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Unbreakable99 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Agreed. It's probably someone trying to connect the dots by assuming Brett Brown's past affiliation with Cory Joseph would make for a desired reunion.


Why not Delon Wright then?


Yo is someone going to make your GT for tonight?


You excited to see the Cavs style on us?

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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#983 » by truth18 » Sat Nov 5, 2016 6:30 pm

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truth18 wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
Why not Delon Wright then?


Yo is someone going to make your GT for tonight?


You excited to see the Cavs style on us?

An Embiid block on LeBron and I will sleep well.

Embiid going for 25 - 10 - 3 blocks and a win, my first childs middle name will be the process.


I'm going to the game and just want to see if anyone wants to grab a beer at the half or say hey or w/e.

So I was trying to get that post in the GT as early as possible. But I assume it's very bad form for me to make your GT.

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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#984 » by Dell » Sat Nov 5, 2016 7:21 pm

No thanks to Joseph. A career 29% 3-point shooter who drives to score isn't the piece you want back for Noel to pair with Simmons. You have to get Powell back in this deal or pass.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#985 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sat Nov 5, 2016 7:27 pm

I like Corey Joseph more than most on here, but he alone wouldn't get it done for Noel.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#986 » by sixers hoops » Sat Nov 5, 2016 7:40 pm

Dell wrote:No thanks to Joseph. A career 29% 3-point shooter who drives to score isn't the piece you want back for Noel to pair with Simmons. You have to get Powell back in this deal or pass.


Yeah. He's not a bad player, but seems like a bad fit on a team that's building around two big men and needs spacing.
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Another five games and the Nerlens Noel auction could begin 

Post#987 » by hookshot199 » Sat Nov 5, 2016 7:47 pm

I'd give it another five games. But if the current trends continue to the 10-game mark, I believe we'll begin seeing some serious interest for Nerlens Noel.

There are many reasons for poor starts (injuries, personal problems like Jrue Holiday's), but i can't image, for instance, that Mark Cuban is happy that the Mavs have gotten off to an 0-5 start. I also think that among the league's elite, notably Golden State, haven't identified not having a center as an obstacle to getting to the finals.

Teams to watch in my opinion:

Dallas: 0-5
New Orleans: 0-6
Minnesota: 1-3
Washington: 1-3
Phoenix: 2-4
Golden State: 4-2
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#988 » by tk76 » Sat Nov 5, 2016 7:48 pm

Agree with the consensus that adding a non-shooter is a bad idea.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#989 » by Mik317 » Sat Nov 5, 2016 8:01 pm

We also need guys who can get their own shots. Not saying Joseph is that...but shooter or bust isn't the only way to go IMO. Right now beyond Embiid or Jah post ups or isos, our offense is guys jacking crazy 3s or occasional cuts by Hollis or Cov. If we get a guy who can get his own shot via driving to the basket then...thats fills a need too. Yeah again that was supposed to be Simmons but even with him, having another creator off the bounce would be cool. We need what we hoped Wroten was..or for a better example Will Barton type. Just having spot up shooters who can't do nothing else, doesn't solve our stagnation issues IMO.

again don't know if Joseph is that (doubt it actuallY) and yeah I'd love to steal Powell but just pure shooting isn't the end all be all. I also imagine this would mean Bayless would play off the ball at the 2 as well, which is where the shooting would come from ideally no? Joseph's defense is pretty good too, correct?

Not the best deal but as the season goes on Noel's value drops; He is a rental at best right now, and even if the team trading for him can match, they must be willing to MAX him or else, no? I just think as cool as it would be to get full value, we have to realize Noel's value takes a hit due to his contract situation AND his injury issues....that and as of right now no team is THAT desperate for a center (sans IMO the Warriors but Jerry West deals are scary yo)
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#990 » by LloydFree » Sat Nov 5, 2016 8:20 pm

Mik317 wrote:We also need guys who can get their own shots. Not saying Joseph is that...but shooter or bust isn't the only way to go IMO. Right now beyond Embiid or Jah post ups or isos, our offense is guys jacking crazy 3s or occasional cuts by Hollis or Cov. If we get a guy who can get his own shot via driving to the basket then...thats fills a need too. Yeah again that was supposed to be Simmons but even with him, having another creator off the bounce would be cool. We need what we hoped Wroten was..or for a better example Will Barton type. Just having spot up shooters who can't do nothing else, doesn't solve our stagnation issues IMO.

again don't know if Joseph is that (doubt it actuallY) and yeah I'd love to steal Powell but just pure shooting isn't the end all be all. I also imagine this would mean Bayless would play off the ball at the 2 as well, which is where the shooting would come from ideally no? Joseph's defense is pretty good too, correct?

Not the best deal but as the season goes on Noel's value drops; He is a rental at best right now, and even if the team trading for him can match, they must be willing to MAX him or else, no? I just think as cool as it would be to get full value, we have to realize Noel's value takes a hit due to his contract situation AND his injury issues....that and as of right now no team is THAT desperate for a center (sans IMO the Warriors but Jerry West deals are scary yo)

He's not a rental. He can be tendered. He'll be a Restricted Free agent, which is a huge difference.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#991 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sat Nov 5, 2016 8:37 pm

Honestly, I'm not sure if getting a player in return is maximizing value. I'd probably rather just get a quality pick back in return. Because Noel's trade value is at its lowest right now. A team might be more apt to part with a maybe(pick) than giving away a solid piece. And in trades we should be shooting for highest upside, because with our money we could just sign solid guys. We don't need to trade for them.

What I'm hoping for is the Nets play a lot better than expected(they already have 2 wins and 2 of their losses are by a combined total of 6 points or something) and by the deadline Ainge feels his hopes of that Nets pick being a top 3 pick are lost, so he trades it to us for Noel to bolster his front court D for a playoff run.

Or trade Noel in a larger package like with the Lakers pick and some other stuff for Klay which is a pipe dream, or something else. I don't see what adding Ross or Joseph really do for us in the big picture. If I'm trading Noel, I'm trading him for someone that has the potential to still be with us in 5 years, and neither Ross or Joseph have that.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#992 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Nov 5, 2016 8:46 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:Honestly, I'm not sure if getting a player in return is maximizing value. I'd probably rather just get a quality pick back in return. Because Noel's trade value is at its lowest right now. A team might be more apt to part with a maybe(pick) than giving away a solid piece. And in trades we should be shooting for highest upside, because with our money we could just sign solid guys. We don't need to trade for them.

What I'm hoping for is the Nets play a lot better than expected(they already have 2 wins and 2 of their losses are by a combined total of 6 points or something) and by the deadline Ainge feels his hopes of that Nets pick being a top 3 pick are lost, so he trades it to us for Noel to bolster his front court D for a playoff run.

Or trade Noel in a larger package like with the Lakers pick and some other stuff for Klay which is a pipe dream, or something else. I don't see what adding Ross or Joseph really do for us in the big picture. If I'm trading Noel, I'm trading him for someone that has the potential to still be with us in 5 years, and neither Ross or Joseph have that.


Yeah none of those scenarios are happening. GS is not trading Klay to us under any circumstances for Noel. And Ainge is not trading away the Brooklyn pick to us as long as Brooklyn is out of the playoff race.
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Post#993 » by Sportfan73 » Sat Nov 5, 2016 8:47 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:Honestly, I'm not sure if getting a player in return is maximizing value. I'd probably rather just get a quality pick back in return. Because Noel's trade value is at its lowest right now. A team might be more apt to part with a maybe(pick) than giving away a solid piece. And in trades we should be shooting for highest upside, because with our money we could just sign solid guys. We don't need to trade for them.

What I'm hoping for is the Nets play a lot better than expected(they already have 2 wins and 2 of their losses are by a combined total of 6 points or something) and by the deadline Ainge feels his hopes of that Nets pick being a top 3 pick are lost, so he trades it to us for Noel to bolster his front court D for a playoff run.

Or trade Noel in a larger package like with the Lakers pick and some other stuff for Klay which is a pipe dream, or something else. I don't see what adding Ross or Joseph really do for us in the big picture. If I'm trading Noel, I'm trading him for someone that has the potential to still be with us in 5 years, and neither Ross or Joseph have that.

I would literally sell the farm for Klay. Anything besides Simmons, Embiid, and this year's pick is on the table. His fit next to those two is NICE.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#994 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sat Nov 5, 2016 8:48 pm

Never say never, but I just said it was a pipe dream, but tell that to Warriors fans who keep coming to our board offering Klay for Noel in large package deals.

I'd probably just hold onto Noel and let him walk tbh. Better than getting something crap for him out of principle.
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Post#995 » by Sportfan73 » Sat Nov 5, 2016 8:57 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:Never say never, but I just said it was a pipe dream, but tell that to Warriors fans who keep coming to our board offering Klay for Noel in large package deals.

I'd probably just hold onto Noel and let him walk tbh. Better than getting something crap for him out of principle.

I'm thinking it would take something like
Klay to philly
Lakers pick, kings pick to third team
Covington, Noel, and whatever those picks are worth that would match salary to GS. Avery Bradley comes to mind.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#996 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Nov 5, 2016 9:01 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:Never say never, but I just said it was a pipe dream, but tell that to Warriors fans who keep coming to our board offering Klay for Noel in large package deals.

I'd probably just hold onto Noel and let him walk tbh. Better than getting something crap for him out of principle.


The Warriors GM is no dummy. Klay isn't untouchable but he is untouchable with a Noel trade. If you want Klay then it starts with Embiid and our 17 pick. Embiid is an injury worry so they would need more to hedge their bet so we would have to give up our pick just for them to not hang up the phone. The closest we could get to Noel for Klay is to include our pick and the Lakers pick. That may make them think but they still say no IMO.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#997 » by eagereyez » Sat Nov 5, 2016 9:01 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:Never say never, but I just said it was a pipe dream, but tell that to Warriors fans who keep coming to our board offering Klay for Noel in large package deals.

I'd probably just hold onto Noel and let him walk tbh. Better than getting something crap for him out of principle.

Why would BC let him walk? Noel at $20M/year is still a tradeable asset. Letting him walk for nothing would be idiotic.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#998 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sat Nov 5, 2016 9:02 pm

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LongLiveHinkie wrote:Never say never, but I just said it was a pipe dream, but tell that to Warriors fans who keep coming to our board offering Klay for Noel in large package deals.

I'd probably just hold onto Noel and let him walk tbh. Better than getting something crap for him out of principle.


The Warriors GM is no dummy. Klay isn't untouchable but he is untouchable with a Noel trade. If you want Klay then it starts with Embiid and our 17 pick. Embiid is an injury worry so they would need more to hedge their bet so we would have to give up our pick just for them to not hang up the phone. The closest we could get to Noel for Klay is to include our pick and the Lakers pick. That may make them think but they still say no IMO.


Neither of us have any clue what the Warriors GM wants, so why even bother getting into his mind?
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Post#999 » by Sportfan73 » Sat Nov 5, 2016 9:05 pm

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LongLiveHinkie wrote:Never say never, but I just said it was a pipe dream, but tell that to Warriors fans who keep coming to our board offering Klay for Noel in large package deals.

I'd probably just hold onto Noel and let him walk tbh. Better than getting something crap for him out of principle.


The Warriors GM is no dummy. Klay isn't untouchable but he is untouchable with a Noel trade. If you want Klay then it starts with Embiid and our 17 pick. Embiid is an injury worry so they would need more to hedge their bet so we would have to give up our pick just for them to not hang up the phone. The closest we could get to Noel for Klay is to include our pick and the Lakers pick. That may make them think but they still say no IMO.

Lmao. Our pick alone is damn near worth Klay. Embiid is way off the table, way off, so is Simmons. We're not trading for KD here. As far as I'm concerned they can have Okafor, Noel, Covington, and the Lakers first or the Kings first. They get not 1 but 2 big men the fill their hole, and a wing that's on a cheap deal. They can then resign Durant because they would be low enough under to do so, then go over the cap and sign curry and Noel.
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Post#1000 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Nov 5, 2016 9:11 pm

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LongLiveHinkie wrote:Never say never, but I just said it was a pipe dream, but tell that to Warriors fans who keep coming to our board offering Klay for Noel in large package deals.

I'd probably just hold onto Noel and let him walk tbh. Better than getting something crap for him out of principle.


The Warriors GM is no dummy. Klay isn't untouchable but he is untouchable with a Noel trade. If you want Klay then it starts with Embiid and our 17 pick. Embiid is an injury worry so they would need more to hedge their bet so we would have to give up our pick just for them to not hang up the phone. The closest we could get to Noel for Klay is to include our pick and the Lakers pick. That may make them think but they still say no IMO.

Lmao. Our pick alone is damn near worth Klay. Embiid is way off the table, way off, so is Simmons. We're not trading for KD here. As far as I'm concerned they can have Okafor, Noel, Covington, and the Lakers first or the Kings first. They get not 1 but 2 big men the fill their hole, and a wing that's on a cheap deal. They can then resign Durant because they would be low enough under to do so, then go over the cap and sign curry and Noel.


No it's not. Klay is a top 15 player. There's no guarantee anyone from 17 draft will be a top 15 player although there are great prospects. And the Warriors are in win now mode. Drafting a great rookie still take some time. And the fact you are so quick to just throw away Okafor and Noel and Covington for Klay means you know Klay isn't that much better than all of them. The Warriors GM knows this. Do you really think he would want to trade for any of those players to give up Klay? Come on. They are trying to win a championship not build. They are in championship or bust mode. Just stop with the Klay trade scenarios. It's not happening. No chance.

And they have no use for Okafor. They wouldn't want him anyway. Come on.

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