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Post#981 » by Zenzibar » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:30 am

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Post#982 » by Zenzibar » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:32 am

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Same type of deal we gave Randle but instead guarantee all 3 years.


With 7 picks in 3 years, I'm wondering why we have to throw money at any young player that's not a star.


We would be paying him for what he could be.

His potential is sky high.

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Even so, without a Ranlde move, it's only a dream. Just continue drafting our team, until a deal for Randle is done.

If he REALLY wanted to come to New York, he would take a loaded 1 year deal elsewhere and come in 2021, a year before Donovan Mitchell signs here.
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Post#983 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:40 am

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Past performance is no guarantee of future results, it's a new day never a better time to break the curse


35 straight years is a pretty good guarantee of future results... :D


the cubs went 101 years between world series wins but it eventually happened. our day is gonna come


Only 66 more years of losing to go until the promised land...that's the way to think positive. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#984 » by malik959 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:49 am

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Chanel Bomber wrote:Lamelo’s ceiling is Jason Williams and his worst case is out if the league before his second contract imo. Think he’ll end up in China by his 6th or 7th year most likely.

Plus by investing time in him you’re gonna stunt RJ’s development because LaMelo can’t play off the ball and is just gonna dominate the ball while shooting 30% from the field. Might even beat Knox and Frank and reach the 20% mark.

Otherwise sure drafting LaMelo sounds like a good idea.


Yes am not feeling the LaMelo and RJ pairing as well. If we really think LaMelo is a superstar we may have to consider trading RJ for pieces that would complement LaMelo better. For me personally I’d prioritize RJ over LaMelo.

Jason Williams was the first thing I saw in LaMelo as well although the latter is six to seven inches taller and as such should have a higher ceiling both literally and figuratively.

As electric as Jason Williams was, the Kings became a bigger threat when they replaced him with Mike Bibby, a far less flashier player but ultimately more effective.


This! Trading for Bibby was one of the Kings best moves where at the time when it happened everyone was like wtf. But having a player that 1) could handle the ball and 2) was still a threat from deep really put the Kings in a great position to become champions. If it weren't for Shaq and Kobe that was a real possibility.

Melo is all about the Highlight. He cares less about defense which was J.Will's problem. Give me Cole/Haliburton/Hayes over Melo any day. With our second pick we must try to get into the teens to get either P. William's or Precious. I feel that our second pick is actually more important than the first. These are some great role players that can help fill our needs.
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Post#985 » by robillionaire » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:16 am

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35 straight years is a pretty good guarantee of future results... :D


the cubs went 101 years between world series wins but it eventually happened. our day is gonna come


Only 66 more years of losing to go until the promised land...that's the way to think positive. :lol: :lol: :lol:


at this point if I could guarantee it in 66 years I'd take the deal :lol:
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Post#986 » by Zenzibar » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:31 am

VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
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35 straight years is a pretty good guarantee of future results... :D


the cubs went 101 years between world series wins but it eventually happened. our day is gonna come


Only 66 more years of losing to go until the promised land...that's the way to think positive. :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Post#987 » by Zenzibar » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:32 am

robillionaire wrote:
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the cubs went 101 years between world series wins but it eventually happened. our day is gonna come


Only 66 more years of losing to go until the promised land...that's the way to think positive. :lol: :lol: :lol:


at this point if I could guarantee it in 66 years I'd take the deal :lol:


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Post#988 » by Worst_to_First » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:48 am

3toheadmelo wrote:Fawk wood. If we replacing Randle then give me this guy
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Am torn about just waiting out and hoping Paul Reed remains available at 27 or consolidating our late first and early second to try to trade up for Precious.

I see Spicy P in Paul Reed although Precious is intriguing as a prospect.
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Post#989 » by Worst_to_First » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:55 am

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Same type of deal we gave Randle but instead guarantee all 3 years.


With 7 picks in 3 years, I'm wondering why we have to throw money at any young player that's not a star.


We would be paying him for what he could be.

His potential is sky high.

Read on Twitter


This was the logical flaw of Mills when he gave Tim Hardaway Jr that deal that even shocked Timmy.

Buy low, Sell high.
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Post#990 » by HEZI » Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:33 am

A big man who can't shoot 3's at high volume that shoots 49% from the field and 59% from free throw? This is a big man, with a 53% TS that plays strictly on the inside?

Get this hachuwa outta here we didn't watch Julius Randle spin around all year to end up with this dude

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Post#991 » by RHODEY » Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:53 am

HEZI wrote:A big man who can't shoot 3's at high volume that shoots 49% from the field and 59% from free throw? This is a big man, with a 53% TS that plays strictly on the inside?

Get this hachuwa outta here we didn't watch Julius Randle spin around all year to end up with this dude

Jalen Smith >>>> Hachuwa


I hope Precious doesn't turn out like :

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Post#992 » by Infinitimind » Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:55 am

Worst_to_First wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
With 7 picks in 3 years, I'm wondering why we have to throw money at any young player that's not a star.


We would be paying him for what he could be.

His potential is sky high.

Read on Twitter


This was the logical flaw of Mills when he gave Tim Hardaway Jr that deal that even shocked Timmy.

Buy low, Sell high.


Yeah I’m good , Ingram is the only guy I would throw money at this offseason. If not play knox at the 4. See what the kid can do, worst case we get another high draft pick.
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Post#993 » by HEZI » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:01 am

RHODEY wrote:
HEZI wrote:A big man who can't shoot 3's at high volume that shoots 49% from the field and 59% from free throw? This is a big man, with a 53% TS that plays strictly on the inside?

Get this hachuwa outta here we didn't watch Julius Randle spin around all year to end up with this dude

Jalen Smith >>>> Hachuwa


I hope Precious doesn't turn out like :

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Yeah dude is just not that talented. He's athletic and that's it. Smith, Reed these guys have some actual skills. I don't get the hype
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Post#994 » by RHODEY » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:03 am

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HEZI wrote:A big man who can't shoot 3's at high volume that shoots 49% from the field and 59% from free throw? This is a big man, with a 53% TS that plays strictly on the inside?

Get this hachuwa outta here we didn't watch Julius Randle spin around all year to end up with this dude

Jalen Smith >>>> Hachuwa


I hope Precious doesn't turn out like :

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Yeah dude is just not that talented. He's athletic and that's it. Smith, Reed these guys have some actual skills. I don't get the hype


I think the hype comes from his athleticism and physique. But the skill level is somewhat sketchy to me. Dudes in the NBA are so much bigger/stronger....
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Post#995 » by HEZI » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:04 am

Xavier Tillman is more talented than Hachuwa. I don't get why nobody talks about Tillman, dude is a baller, really underrated as a passer too.
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Post#996 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:36 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Fawk wood. If we replacing Randle then give me this guy
Read on Twitter


Am torn about just waiting out and hoping Paul Reed remains available at 27 or consolidating our late first and early second to try to trade up for Precious.

I see Spicy P in Paul Reed although Precious is intriguing as a prospect.

Either one would do. But I like Precious more. I think Precious is way more explosive and a better ball handler imo
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Post#997 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:42 am

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He may turn out to be an even better as a Pro in the right environment. How does he compare to Kwahi's college numbers.? (I'm too lazy to look it up right now :lol: )

Seriously though, without a trade Precious Achiuwa's minutes will be severely restricted.

Plus after watching his interview with Mike Schmitz, he's a expresses himself a little too cocky for what I believe is Walt Perrin draft profile. Pop is very similar in that respect.

Quite similar actually. Both averaged 15 and 10. But I dont see much Kawhi in his game. More Siakam like. I think Pop would turn him into a stud
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Post#998 » by mpharris36 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:48 am

HEZI wrote:Xavier Tillman is more talented than Hachuwa. I don't get why nobody talks about Tillman, dude is a baller, really underrated as a passer too.


I like Tillman. He can be a KOQ backup big. Give you good hard minutes...play defense, rebounds and good passer with a nice touch around the rim. Maybe a bit undersized but is smart and moves well.
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Post#999 » by HEZI » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:03 am

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HEZI wrote:Xavier Tillman is more talented than Hachuwa. I don't get why nobody talks about Tillman, dude is a baller, really underrated as a passer too.


I like Tillman. He can be a KOQ backup big. Give you good hard minutes...play defense, rebounds and good passer with a nice touch around the rim. Maybe a bit undersized but is smart and moves well.


Probably more mobile than KOQ. Could see him finding a nice role on a contender or a potential contender down the road.
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Post#1000 » by mpharris36 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:06 am

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HEZI wrote:Xavier Tillman is more talented than Hachuwa. I don't get why nobody talks about Tillman, dude is a baller, really underrated as a passer too.


I like Tillman. He can be a KOQ backup big. Give you good hard minutes...play defense, rebounds and good passer with a nice touch around the rim. Maybe a bit undersized but is smart and moves well.


Probably more mobile than KOQ. Could see him finding a nice role on a contender or a potential contender down the road.


yeah I would say a bit more mobile and maybe a bit more smarter. KOQ was a foul machine.

But Tillman is a grinder. Any team could use him to play solid minutes off the bench. I could see him going anywhere from late 1st to early 2nd. Wouldn't mind him at all could be great front court depth.
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