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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#981 » by Badly Browned » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:55 pm

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Badly Browned wrote:Kinda shows the bigman talent level deficit in the G-League when Wiseman is coming in after a year a rehab, still looking raw, and putting up like 36 pts / 17 reb / 3 blk per36 on 52% from the field.

So, I don't think we can glean anything on the offensive end from Wiseman's G-League stint. His physical advantages are too great to really transfer much over to the NBA level.

What I will say is I think his timing/anticipation on defense has looked more consistent than last year.

As long as he's not a blackhole on offense with the big club, I think he should get Bjelica's minutes, unless Bjelica actually starts hitting 3s again. Come playoff time I don't think either Wiseman nor Bjelica get minutes anyways.

I don't pin it on Wiseman that the Warriors FO decided to not bring in another bigman to lessen the pressure for Wiseman to produce right away.


The Warriors HAVE to give him PT as much as possible including the playoffs. If it comes to an emergency situation they need to have him as ready as possible. Also people are STILL making declarations based on how he's going to be playing in a month and we have no idea.


Regular season, sure.

Playoffs? Ehhhhhh. He's going to have to earn that one, and his delayed comeback hasn't made it easier for him to do that.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#982 » by SpreeChokeJob » Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:54 pm

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The Warriors owners and GM didn't think he'd take this long to come back.


Roster was overloaded with wings. Either Lee, JTA, or Weatherspoon wasn’t necessary with Moody waiting for his turn.

It’s consistent with the Warriors brand to be loyal to a fault unless Giannis is available. Also they could not attract great center talent when they had Wiseman was forecasted for November.

What they could have done was explore using the two way for any center. If Gasol was available I would have dropped one of the wings because even at his age he can’t be that much worse than Bjelica.


a 2-way big wouldn't be allowed to play in the playoffs regardless.


If they got them earlier and he showed promise, they could have converted him. But that meant they have to kick someone off. I think it’s better to use the two way for a potential big than for practice players where they were they already have too many in jta, Lee, Chiozza, and Weatherspoon.

But the issue is they don’t think bigs are important, but even then there’s no point in carrying all those players above when they already have Moody and Iguodala and GP2.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#983 » by SpreeChokeJob » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:00 pm

Wiseman doesn’t look anywhere ready for playoffs. Is he better than Bjelica? I don’t think that’s the measuring stick that the team should be using. This team is going to ride with Looney and Dray in playoffs. Better hope their health holds up because the alternative backup plans aren’t pretty.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#984 » by wco81 » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:01 pm

There may be situations where they have no choice, like foul trouble and injuries.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#985 » by whatisacenter » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:15 pm

Playoff minutes….time will tell
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#986 » by GSWFan1994 » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:39 pm

IMO, the rotation for the playoffs should be:

Curry, Thompson, Wiggins, Green, Looney
Poole, Payton, Porter, Kuminga

All the other players, just in spot minutes and/or in very specific situations/matchups.

Iguodala shouldn't be counted on. He played in only 26 games this season and is currently injured (as far as I know). Anything else he may bring is gravy.

Playoffs are not necessarily about the best team, but whoever is healthiest at the right moment.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#987 » by EvanZ » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:47 pm

If Iguodala is healthy he will be in the rotation, it's not even a question. He'll be right behind Poole probably.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#988 » by hamncheese » Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:12 pm

I don't think Wiseman will be in the playoff rotation, but he will come if a big body is needed simply because he is the only one. So, whatever the coaching staff has him work on between now and the playoffs will be to prepare him to that end. Figure out what Wiseman can do to best help the team.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#989 » by cpower » Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:15 pm

he looks like a high school kid out there....i mean do we really want to play him this year? We are here to win a championship and we want to make sure our main rotations are set for PS.
we are not forcing to play big man matchup..if anything we have to play small and let others to adjust to us.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#990 » by Big J » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:23 pm

Yea, I could see Draymond going full MJ - Kwame Brown on Wiseman if we play him in the playoffs. Best to let the kid sit and take in speed & physicality of playoff ball from the sidelines.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#991 » by EvanZ » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:04 pm

The only way Wiseman plays at all is in a blowout or if Looney and Kuminga are both hurt.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#992 » by xdrta+ » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:20 pm

EvanZ wrote:The only way Wiseman plays at all is in a blowout or if Looney and Kuminga are both hurt.


Unless he plays if it's not a blowout or Looney and Kuminga aren't hurt.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#993 » by EvanZ » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:23 pm

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EvanZ wrote:The only way Wiseman plays at all is in a blowout or if Looney and Kuminga are both hurt.


Unless he plays if it's not a blowout or Looney and Kuminga aren't hurt.


He won't play in that case as I already stated. If you think otherwise, you are not being a Wise man.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#994 » by xdrta+ » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:27 pm

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EvanZ wrote:The only way Wiseman plays at all is in a blowout or if Looney and Kuminga are both hurt.


Unless he plays if it's not a blowout or Looney and Kuminga aren't hurt.


He won't play in that case as I already stated. If you think otherwise, you are not being a Wise man.


Well, if you've "stated" it, then it's settled. :noway:
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#995 » by whatisacenter » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:27 pm

Why do posters feel the need to act like they are 100% right about everything? Guess what? You’re not! How about we wait and see Wiseman play a few games with this roster before we decide who he is and what he can do for the team this season?
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#996 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:28 pm

Badly Browned wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
Badly Browned wrote:Kinda shows the bigman talent level deficit in the G-League when Wiseman is coming in after a year a rehab, still looking raw, and putting up like 36 pts / 17 reb / 3 blk per36 on 52% from the field.

So, I don't think we can glean anything on the offensive end from Wiseman's G-League stint. His physical advantages are too great to really transfer much over to the NBA level.

What I will say is I think his timing/anticipation on defense has looked more consistent than last year.

As long as he's not a blackhole on offense with the big club, I think he should get Bjelica's minutes, unless Bjelica actually starts hitting 3s again. Come playoff time I don't think either Wiseman nor Bjelica get minutes anyways.

I don't pin it on Wiseman that the Warriors FO decided to not bring in another bigman to lessen the pressure for Wiseman to produce right away.


The Warriors HAVE to give him PT as much as possible including the playoffs. If it comes to an emergency situation they need to have him as ready as possible. Also people are STILL making declarations based on how he's going to be playing in a month and we have no idea.


Regular season, sure.

Playoffs? Ehhhhhh. He's going to have to earn that one, and his delayed comeback hasn't made it easier for him to do that.


Sure, but the reality is that the Warriors could find themselves in the finals against the Sixers with Dray injured and Bjelli fouled out, and Looney gassed. Are you going to refuse to put Wiseman out there and leave it to Porter to defend Embiid for a half? Realistically the Warriors need to be doing all they can to get Wiseman ready enough that he can contribute when called on this year.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#997 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:28 pm

xdrta+ wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
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Unless he plays if it's not a blowout or Looney and Kuminga aren't hurt.


He won't play in that case as I already stated. If you think otherwise, you are not being a Wise man.


Well, if you've "stated" it, then it's settled. :noway:


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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#998 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:31 pm

SpreeChokeJob wrote:Wiseman doesn’t look anywhere ready for playoffs. Is he better than Bjelica? I don’t think that’s the measuring stick that the team should be using. This team is going to ride with Looney and Dray in playoffs. Better hope their health holds up because the alternative backup plans aren’t pretty.


We have no idea what he will look like by the end of the regular season. We haven't seen him play with his teammates he's been practicing with yet.

It's not like Bjelli sets a really high bar for Wiseman to clear.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#999 » by tarantism » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:33 pm

Wiseman recalled from Santa Cruz today, seems like he's gonna be available Sunday.

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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#1000 » by shazam_guy » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:37 pm

So many people here who know exactly what the truth is about everything. It's very impressive. But when something different happens, like the Warriors beating on Milwaukee or Poole dramatically improving or Moody looking like a good draft pick, they just kind of disappear.

Where will they all go if Wiseman turns out to be a useful, important player? The General Board, I guess, last refuge of the hopelessly opinionated.

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