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Re: PG: The Rewards Go To The True Believers 

Post#981 » by MrDollarBills » Sun May 18, 2025 3:56 pm

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This looks like it's such a fun job

This may be an edit but cool


Nah it's real. I just posted another video with him and you see he's in the organist box at MSG.
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Re: PG: The Rewards Go To The True Believers 

Post#982 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun May 18, 2025 3:57 pm

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If you want to go down the rabbit hole, you could make an argument that keeping Randle and DiVencenzo while adding Bridges would have made us better (at least for) this year.

The problem at the time was Randle was:

1. A bit more a headcase,
2. Up until that point was terrible in the playoffs in the NY spotlight
3. Sounded like his contract extension would be a problem and he might leave.

With the risks involved, I still think we made to right decision but I will say this: If Randle was able to excorcise his playoff demons like he did this year in Minny, coupled with keeping Divo who loved playing here, you could definitely argue that we could have been a better team.

I truly believe LAST years team if it remained healthy had a legit chance to beat Boston. Not garanteeing we would have, but we were a studly defensive team after the OG trade (something like 20-5) before everyone and their mother started succumbing to injuries. That team in one of the last regular season games blow out Boston in their building with a defensive intensity quite similar to what we saw in game 6.

Also it was a team with more than 3/4 its top 6-7 starters out that took the Pacers to 7 games.

And with saying all this I am not saying in any way I am unhappy with KAT either.

But if you call this years Randle in Minny and KAT kind of a wash, Divo's ridiculous 3 ball was definitely missed.

Yep, while KAT has been solid in the playoffs but still up and down, Randle has been pretty amazing in the playoffs on both ends. We would’ve won the chip last year if he was healthy. That being said, this current Knicks group has a legit shot to win it all with KAT.


If all our players remained healthy last years team was REALLY REALLY GOOD. That we definitely agree.

I really would love to find a way to bring back Divo next year. He is languishing in Minny. I dont know if we can sign and trade Precious in the deal but if they actually want to resign Randle they are going to maybe want cheaper and shorter term contracts.

Divo not even counting the Nova connection is a perfect complement to this squad. This line-up doesn't have one of those made bombers from 5 feet beyond the 3 point line. That dynamic would be perfect to add especially when we play Mitch Rob at the 5.


Last January was a great run. It was 14 games. We looked unstoppable. How far they would have gotten is anyone's guess but, I loved that team.

The whole idea that keeping Randle we would be better? Based on what? He played like we needed him to for one month and didn't want to sign an extension? Oh well

Donte sucked off the bench for us btw. He wasn't playing well until he became a starter. He struggled a bit off the bench in Minny this year. I would love to have ran that team back and just add Mikal but, that wasn't possible.

Here we are in the ECF so .. Everything Rose did worked out fine. 8 down and 8 to go.
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Re: PG: The Rewards Go To The True Believers 

Post#983 » by KnixinSix » Sun May 18, 2025 4:00 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Yep, while KAT has been solid in the playoffs but still up and down, Randle has been pretty amazing in the playoffs on both ends. We would’ve won the chip last year if he was healthy. That being said, this current Knicks group has a legit shot to win it all with KAT.


If all our players remained healthy last years team was REALLY REALLY GOOD. That we definitely agree.

I really would love to find a way to bring back Divo next year. He is languishing in Minny. I dont know if we can sign and trade Precious in the deal but if they actually want to resign Randle they are going to maybe want cheaper and shorter term contracts.

Divo not even counting the Nova connection is a perfect complement to this squad. This line-up doesn't have one of those made bombers from 5 feet beyond the 3 point line. That dynamic would be perfect to add especially when we play Mitch Rob at the 5.


Last January was a great run. It was 14 games. We looked unstoppable. How far they would have gotten is anyone's guess but, I loved that team.

The whole idea that keeping Randle we would be better? Based on what? He played like we needed him to for one month and didn't want to sign an extension? Oh well

Donte sucked off the bench for us btw. He wasn't playing well until he became a starter. He struggled a bit off the bench in Minny this year. I would love to have ran that team back and just add Mikal but, that wasn't possible.

Here we are in the ECF so .. Everything Rose did worked out fine. 8 down and 8 to go.


Im not against what we did but I am simply making a case that the other way wouldnt have necessarily been too bad either. In any event I have continued that convo in the T&T thread so we dont miller this one too much more lol.
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Re: PG: The Rewards Go To The True Believers 

Post#984 » by MrDollarBills » Sun May 18, 2025 4:03 pm

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This looks like it's such a fun job


This is awesome, but it confused me a bit because I grew up going to school with a guy I thought had become THE organist at MSG, and the guy in the video isn't him. I just looked him up (my guy), and it looks like he's still doing it as of a few days ago, so does MSG actually have multiple house organists?


I think he's the back up to your guy Ray

I can't imagine how hype it is to play those chords during a big possession
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Re: PG: The Rewards Go To The True Believers 

Post#985 » by BKlutch » Sun May 18, 2025 4:05 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:


This looks like it's such a fun job


This is awesome, but it confused me a bit because I grew up going to school with a guy I thought had become THE organist at MSG, and the guy in the video isn't him. I just looked him up (my guy), and it looks like he's still doing it as of a few days ago, so does MSG actually have multiple house organists?


I think he's the back up to your guy Ray

I can't imagine how hype it is to play those chords during a big possession

If I were anywhere in the world, no matter the time of day or what I was doing, and happened to hear those chords, I'd get totally hyped!
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Re: PG: The Rewards Go To The True Believers 

Post#986 » by knicks94 » Sun May 18, 2025 4:12 pm

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This looks like it's such a fun job

Dude definitely has more talent in him than the overrated CP The Franchise. The only thing that CP has over him is that he landed himself one of the hottest women in the Tri-State area.
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Re: PG: The Rewards Go To The True Believers 

Post#987 » by KnicksGadfly » Sun May 18, 2025 4:14 pm

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KnixinSix wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Yep, while KAT has been solid in the playoffs but still up and down, Randle has been pretty amazing in the playoffs on both ends. We would’ve won the chip last year if he was healthy. That being said, this current Knicks group has a legit shot to win it all with KAT.


If all our players remained healthy last years team was REALLY REALLY GOOD. That we definitely agree.

I really would love to find a way to bring back Divo next year. He is languishing in Minny. I dont know if we can sign and trade Precious in the deal but if they actually want to resign Randle they are going to maybe want cheaper and shorter term contracts.

Divo not even counting the Nova connection is a perfect complement to this squad. This line-up doesn't have one of those made bombers from 5 feet beyond the 3 point line. That dynamic would be perfect to add especially when we play Mitch Rob at the 5.


Last January was a great run. It was 14 games. We looked unstoppable. How far they would have gotten is anyone's guess but, I loved that team.

The whole idea that keeping Randle we would be better? Based on what? He played like we needed him to for one month and didn't want to sign an extension? Oh well

Donte sucked off the bench for us btw. He wasn't playing well until he became a starter. He struggled a bit off the bench in Minny this year. I would love to have ran that team back and just add Mikal but, that wasn't possible.

Here we are in the ECF so .. Everything Rose did worked out fine. 8 down and 8 to go.


14 games out of how many years? That doesn’t work most of the time in the workplace…you’d get fired way before then for that because your boss will ask you why you weren’t putting in that effort earlier. In his time here, there’s only one year where I was satisfied with his effort: 2020-2021. Any other year after that, I knew we weren’t getting his all.

We can’t just blame playoff injuries. The man should have been going hard from the beginning…he would have been a legend here. It’s hard to overstate how many advantages he was given. He had Daddy Dolan’s ear, which is so big. He was the undisputed leader of the team for several years. Thibs gave him the ball over and over. He made many mistakes and did not face any accountability, which might have been the Knicks’ mistake too. The one time he was held accountable here was when he didn’t get his extension and then got traded.

We shouldn’t blame the Knicks for trading away Randle. If Randle did what he was supposed to do, he’d still be here. He’d be on track to be a Knicks legend. He’d have his contract, his Knicks legacy, an environment where the owner loves him, etc. If he truly valued that, he wouldn’t need “14 games”
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Re: PG: The Rewards Go To The True Believers 

Post#988 » by SelbyCobra » Sun May 18, 2025 4:18 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:


This looks like it's such a fun job


This is awesome, but it confused me a bit because I grew up going to school with a guy I thought had become THE organist at MSG, and the guy in the video isn't him. I just looked him up (my guy), and it looks like he's still doing it as of a few days ago, so does MSG actually have multiple house organists?


I think he's the back up to your guy Ray

I can't imagine how hype it is to play those chords during a big possession


I take it back, my guy may also be a backup, because now that you posted Ray Castoldi, it dislodge the memory of, "of course that's the guy, Breen's always mentioning him".

It looks like the guy I know might be an MSG backup, but he does the organ for the Mets, too? Interesting where people you know as kids end up!
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Post#989 » by K_ick_God » Sun May 18, 2025 4:25 pm

The late great John Condon ... think spelling his name right. Great PA announcer at MSG.
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Re: PG: The Rewards Go To The True Believers 

Post#990 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sun May 18, 2025 4:40 pm

knicks94 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:


This looks like it's such a fun job

Dude definitely has more talent in him than the overrated CP The Franchise. The only thing that CP has over him is that he landed himself one of the hottest women in the Tri-State area.


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Re: PG: The Rewards Go To The True Believers 

Post#991 » by MrDollarBills » Sun May 18, 2025 4:41 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:


This looks like it's such a fun job

Dude definitely has more talent in him than the overrated CP The Franchise. The only thing that CP has over him is that he landed himself one of the hottest women in the Tri-State area.


tf?


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Post#992 » by knicks94 » Sun May 18, 2025 4:47 pm

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knicks94 wrote:Dude definitely has more talent in him than the overrated CP The Franchise. The only thing that CP has over him is that he landed himself one of the hottest women in the Tri-State area.


tf?


I'm lost as usual

I know comparing a musician to a Knicks podcaster is comparing apples to oranges, but I couldn't help notice how much homeboy looks like CP The Franchise.
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Post#993 » by ScienceOfLosing » Sun May 18, 2025 4:49 pm

I am pulling for Thibs to continue with the masterful defense but really want more on offense (like our last game.)
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Post#994 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sun May 18, 2025 4:49 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
tf?


I'm lost as usual

I know comparing a musician to a Knicks podcaster is comparing apples to oranges, but I couldn't help notice how much homeboy looks like CP The Franchise.


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Post#995 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sun May 18, 2025 4:50 pm

ScienceOfLosing wrote:I am pulling for Thibs to continue with the masterful defense but really want more on offense (like our last game.)
In other words

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Post#996 » by K_ick_God » Sun May 18, 2025 4:58 pm

Not to be too harsh because I like Tatum but I walked into CVS and saw this display -- Celtics 2025, enjoy small wins.

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3toheadmelo wrote:Once we traded for OG we immediately became championship contenders. The one trade that changed everything.

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Need to hang OG’s name in the rafters :nod: biggest upgrade we made from a losing player to a winning player of all time.


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Post#998 » by Guano » Sun May 18, 2025 5:01 pm

ScienceOfLosing wrote:I am pulling for Thibs to continue with the masterful defense but really want more on offense (like our last game.)
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We've all been wrong about something here.

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Re: PG: The Rewards Go To The True Believers 

Post#1000 » by BKlutch » Sun May 18, 2025 5:08 pm

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
If all our players remained healthy last years team was REALLY REALLY GOOD. That we definitely agree.

I really would love to find a way to bring back Divo next year. He is languishing in Minny. I dont know if we can sign and trade Precious in the deal but if they actually want to resign Randle they are going to maybe want cheaper and shorter term contracts.

Divo not even counting the Nova connection is a perfect complement to this squad. This line-up doesn't have one of those made bombers from 5 feet beyond the 3 point line. That dynamic would be perfect to add especially when we play Mitch Rob at the 5.


Last January was a great run. It was 14 games. We looked unstoppable. How far they would have gotten is anyone's guess but, I loved that team.

The whole idea that keeping Randle we would be better? Based on what? He played like we needed him to for one month and didn't want to sign an extension? Oh well

Donte sucked off the bench for us btw. He wasn't playing well until he became a starter. He struggled a bit off the bench in Minny this year. I would love to have ran that team back and just add Mikal but, that wasn't possible.

Here we are in the ECF so .. Everything Rose did worked out fine. 8 down and 8 to go.


14 games out of how many years? That doesn’t work most of the time in the workplace…you’d get fired way before then for that because your boss will ask you why you weren’t putting in that effort earlier. In his time here, there’s only one year where I was satisfied with his effort: 2020-2021. Any other year after that, I knew we weren’t getting his all.

We can’t just blame playoff injuries. The man should have been going hard from the beginning…he would have been a legend here. It’s hard to overstate how many advantages he was given. He had Daddy Dolan’s ear, which is so big. He was the undisputed leader of the team for several years. Thibs gave him the ball over and over. He made many mistakes and did not face any accountability, which might have been the Knicks’ mistake too. The one time he was held accountable here was when he didn’t get his extension and then got traded.

We shouldn’t blame the Knicks for trading away Randle. If Randle did what he was supposed to do, he’d still be here. He’d be on track to be a Knicks legend. He’d have his contract, his Knicks legacy, an environment where the owner loves him, etc. If he truly valued that, he wouldn’t need “14 games”


This trade was a win-win-win-win!

For the Knicks: We win big because we are in the ECF with KAT. He may not be perfect, but he's the best 5 we've had since Pat. He's a really good fit with his teammates. Playoff KAT is incredible!!

For the Twolves: They couldn't afford to keep KAT but now they're doing really well with Juilius and Divo.

For KAT: He's a real New Yorker and loves playing here. He feels it's where he belongs, so we know we'll always get his best. His love of the fans is also a huge plus!

For Julius: He was really good but struggled to be our #1 under NYC pressure. His attitude is better now that he's a great #2 and the fans, expecting little from him after the trade, are warming up to him and enjoying that he's giving them more than they expected. Plus, he's in the WCF!

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