Am I missing something? Is Koufos that good? Why no Aldrich?

Master Amino · Post #1 » by **Master Amino** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:10 pm

Why on earth didn't you guys end up with Cole Aldrich or Ed Davis? Don't you need defensive help up front in order to slow down the Pau's and the Amare's of the NBA?

Just curious.

Bullet · Post #2 » by **Bullet** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:21 pm

Koufos is the next Gasol and Amar'e combined.

RIJazzMan · Post #3 » by **RIJazzMan** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:04 pm

Boom bitches!!!

Post #4 » by **StocktonShorts** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:04 pm

Master Amino wrote:Why on earth didn't you guys end up with Cole Aldrich or Ed Davis? Don't you need defensive help up front in order to slow down the Pau's and the Amare's of the NBA?

If you read through some of the other threads you'll see that many of us are wondering the same thing.

Post #5 » by **jazzfan1971** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:22 pm

Koufos was terrible last year. Brutally bad. I don't think he had anything to do with the decision.

They might have thought Fesenko was as good as Aldrich though. But, I doubt it.

Most likely they thought that Hayward projected to be a better player than Aldrich or Davis. I think we're going to have to wait a couple years to see if they were right on that count.

outerspacefella · Post #6 » by **outerspacefella** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:02 pm

It's crystal clear Jazz brass is very, very high on Hayward. Nothing against the kid (he can play ball and demonstrated the ability to play the big games)... yet I wish Jazz brass is right and I'm just a stupid brainless fan for being mad about the pick.

Paper Face · Post #7 » by **Paper Face** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:02 pm

Picking the BPA is either the correct course over several seasons, or it's the wrong course.

countrybama24 · Post #8 » by **countrybama24** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:20 pm

Paper Face wrote:Picking the BPA is either the correct course over several seasons, or it's the wrong course.

Thanks for clearing that up sherlock.

GP · Post #9 » by GP » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:10 pm

Bullet wrote:Koufos is the next Gasol and Amar'e combined.

I would say with a few more pounds Kouf is more similar to a young Shaq.

Neon Black · Post #10 » by **Neon Black** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:13 am

Ed Davis is a huge question mark on defense. Wake up. Cole Aldrich has some potential...not superstar potential. He has about the same ceiling as Joel Pryzbilla. Can you see Pryzbilla getting us past the Lakers?

Might as well take the best player available to compliment efforts of finding the appropriate big man when the opportunity presents itself.

Master Amino · Post #11 » by **Master Amino** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:18 am

ele.ven wrote:Ed Davis is a huge question mark on defense. Wake up. Cole Aldrich has some potential...not superstar potential. He has about the same ceiling as Joel Pryzbilla. Can you see Pryzbilla getting us past the Lakers?

Might as well take the best player available to compliment efforts of finding the appropriate big man when the opportunity presents itself.

Ummmm....defense is a STRENGTH of Davis. And what, just because Pryz and Cole are big white centers who block shots mean they have to have the same career path?

And if you wanted a superstar with your pick, I hate to say, but you didn't get one. If you really wanted BPA with star potential, you probably should've gone George. I actually do like Hayward though.

Bullet · Post #12 » by **Bullet** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:15 am

Drafting Hayward only means one thing: The Jazz are getting a big (hopefully a vet) from trades or through free agency.

Bullet · Post #13 » by **Bullet** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:16 am

Drafting Hayward only means one thing: The Jazz are getting a big (hopefully a vet) from trades or through free agency.

Which is actually better than drafting Aldrich or Davis, in my opinion.

kebutah · Post #14 » by **kebutah** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:28 am

Bullet wrote:Drafting Hayward only means one thing: The Jazz are getting a big (hopefully a vet) from trades or through free agency.

Which is actually better than drafting Aldrich or Davis, in my opinion.

Wrong, with the Jazz drafting Hayward only means you drafted Hayword. It may be all we do except sign a few more d league scrubs.

Neon Black · Post #15 » by **Neon Black** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:00 am

My mistake on Davis I got mixed up...as for Aldrich, I never said anything about him being white.

I like Joel Pryzbilla, he's a solid role player with good fundamentals and sound defense...he's moderately athletic, but not exceptionally so. I see the same things in Aldrich, as well as many of the same limitations. If I were stereotyping I would have gone with an Ostertag comparison like everyone else has...I don't think Cole is quite as unmotivated or as much as a stiff, nor does he have an ugly Fred Flinstone tattoo.

My argument is that Hayward appeared to be the best player available in the eyes of the Jazz, and I can understand their perspective. If it pans out, he will be a complimentary player to Deron who can take some pressure off by handling the ball and creating a bit from the forward position. If he is who they think he is...someone who can play a similar role as Hornacek did as a 3rd man...then they're making the right decision; they can sign a project big man later or find someone in free agency with about the same potential of working out as any big left on the draft board.

Master Amino wrote:
ele.ven wrote:Ed Davis is a huge question mark on defense. Wake up. Cole Aldrich has some potential...not superstar potential. He has about the same ceiling as Joel Pryzbilla. Can you see Pryzbilla getting us past the Lakers?

Might as well take the best player available to compliment efforts of finding the appropriate big man when the opportunity presents itself.

Ummmm....defense is a STRENGTH of Davis. And what, just because Pryz and Cole are big white centers who block shots mean they have to have the same career path?

And if you wanted a superstar with your pick, I hate to say, but you didn't get one. If you really wanted BPA with star potential, you probably should've gone George. I actually do like Hayward though.

Paper Face · Post #16 » by **Paper Face** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:44 am

countrybama24 wrote:
Paper Face wrote:Picking the BPA is either the correct course over several seasons, or it's the wrong course.

Thanks for clearing that up sherlock.

It apparently needs to be highlighted for all the Watsons around this place who have never and will never do KOC's job. Here's another one for you since you seemed to like the last one:

Franchises either stay in one city for several consecutive years, or they don't.

oaktownwarriors87 · Post #17 » by **oaktownwarriors87** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:31 pm

Paper Face wrote:
countrybama24 wrote:
Paper Face wrote:Picking the BPA is either the correct course over several seasons, or it's the wrong course.

Thanks for clearing that up sherlock.

It apparently needs to be highlighted for all the Watsons around this place who have never and will never do KOC's job. Here's another one for you since you seemed to like the last one:

Franchises either stay in one city for several consecutive years, or they don't.

I disagree