Comparisons of this year's Suns team to past teams

[cmw17]

So lots of people on here are comparing the 2010-11 team to the the 2005-06 team because that's when Amare missed almost the entire year, meanwhile, the only player that was on that roster that is still a sun today is Steve Nash. Even the rest of the organizaiton was quite different. Different Head Coach, Different GM, Different Asst. GM, etc.

Why aren't people comparing the team to the 2008-09 team after Amare got injured and missed the rest of the season? Many players are still with the team including Nash, Hill, Richardson, Dudley, Dragic, Lopez, Amundson (if he returns). There have been many additions since that squad, but it's a much better representation than the 05-06 team.

By the way, the 05-06 team after Amare went down went on to finish the finaly 27 games with a record of 15-12 (56% winning percentage) had that been a full 82 game season, a 56% winning percentage would have given the Suns a 46-36 record (which by the way was the actual final record for the full season, and they missed the playoffs.)

[Biscotti]

1990

It's kinda close

[MaryvalesFinest]

Not sure if they ever had a team like this, this is the deepest and most unselfish team they have in recent memory. Their already 10 deep with a starting five and the backups for them, than they also have guys like Lawal, Clark, etc who could probably be getting 20 + minutes on some other teams when they probably wont even play them some nights.

[sunsfever68]

Well we're a worse rebounding team having lost Stoudemire and Amundson.

We upgraded our bench though replacing Barbosa and Amundson with Childress and Warrick.

Our bench is possibly the best in the league definitely top 3....damn you D'antoni with a bench like this one we would've been 2007 champs for sure.

Downgrade at power forward obviousy but hopefully Dragic and Lopez continue developing to help make up for some of the loss felt by stoudemire. Lopez has to start averaging close to 10 boards a game. He's a 7 footer he should be able to.

We're going to be a great regular season team. We'll probably lead the league in offense. I just don't think it'll produce the only thing that means anything in sports. A trophy.

But it'll be fun but Suns fans have expectations that make watching untapped potential like this team might have really frustrating to watch. We think oh man if only we could have better rebounding, defense we'd be a title team.


Here's to hoping we make one more move to get a power forward before the season starts.

I don't think it matters anyways because the finals are going to be Lakers Heat. You know Stern wants ratings

[KJ7]

97/98 Vs 10/11

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHO/1998.html

This team was so deep I remember.

Hot Rod Vs Lopez - Defensive 7-footers
McDyess Vs Warrick - Dice was only 23 and a bit skinny but was a great finisher on PnR.
Cliff Vs Frye/Clark - Cliff played a bit of C for us and was criticised for shooting too many 3s.
Bryant Vs Lawal - Rebounders who operate close to the basket. Limited minutes.
Manning Vs Turkoglu - Creative 6'10" forwards who werent/arent the best defenders.
Ceballos Vs Hill - Best days are behind them but were athletic players in their day.
McCloud Vs Dudley - True role players. 3pters and good D for guys who aren't really quick.
Milic Vs Childress - Milic had big wraps on him but never went on with it. Both good slasher/shooters
Chapman Vs JRich - All hops in their early years but became more shooters in the latter years.
Kidd Vs Nash - Fascilitators of the PnR and engine-room of the team.
Nash Vs Dragic - 9ppg/3.5apg in 22 mpg. That was Nash's stats in that year. Wouldnt surprise me if Dragic has similar numbers.

KJ is the only one I can't fit in because he is God and it would be unfair to compare anyone on our team to him .... j/k

Just goes to show how deep that team was altho it has to be said that Ceballos, Scott and Milic only played 30-35 games each that for the team that season.

[pidi]

our team is very, verry deep - but we need another player on the 4 spot. just someone who can grad some boards. it would be perfect to have such a player. skinner, steven hunter, chris hunter or kris humphries.

i would say we are more compared to the post barkley season. alot of players, alot of talent but a short outcome. i am expecting some major deals during the season.

[Lindane]

Most of our rebounding came from Grant (5.5) and J-Rich (5.1). Amar'e averaged 8.9 but as a dominating PF, you really should average that (if not more)! The thing with last year's team was the idea of gang rebounding, which isn't something we have really demanded recently.

This years team is really quite different from anything we've seen from the Suns. We lose our best two, MPG, rebounders but we expand upon what is our strength (off the ball movement and scoring). I feel like if we can continue the trend of gang rebounding and expand upon what really made us great last season, Warrick, Turkoglu and Childress are *welcome* additions to our line.

The only problem I have with our team this season is how stacked we are at the SF position. I, personally, see the Suns making one more move this season and that is unloading J-Rich's expiring (as much as I dislike that) and moving Dudley now that we have J-Chill. Probably for a PF. Maybe getting in on a NO/NY deal for Okafor.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=2bajj2j

Which works, but I see other things happening 'cause I'm not the smartest talent evaluator.

[Kerrsed]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=2dujyc5

I like this one better.

Suns out: Jrich/Clark
Suns in: AR/Turriaf

NY out: AR/Turriaf/Curry/Azabuike/Chandler
NY in: CP3/Okafor

NO out: CP3/Okafor
NO in: Jrich/Clark/Curry/Azabuike/Chandler

SUNS:
Nash/Dragic/Reynolds
Hill/Childress/Reynolds
Ball/Dudley/D.Collins
AR/Warrick/Lawal
Lopez/Frye/Turriaf

Knicks:
CP3/Douglas/Gallo/STAT/Okafor <--next year they pick up Melo **CP3/Gallo/Melo/Stat/Okafor

Hornets:
Collison/Jrich/Azabuike/West/Curry?

They get young talent (Buike/Clark/Chandler) and everybody they get is an expiring so the new owners can build the team as they want.

[DirtyDez]

Bad for the Hornets unless the Suns/Knicks give em two 1sts each... Which i'd do for AR.

[MrMiyagi]

Bad for the Hornets unless the Suns/Knicks give em two 1sts each... Which i'd do for AR.

Let the Knicks give them three 1sts, they are the ones benefiting the most IMO, especially if they end up getting Melo