Best Blue Jays of all time?

darthbrooks · Post #1 » by **darthbrooks** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 7:08 pm

Blog post that lists the ten best Toronto Blue Jays players of all time...what do you think? Agree, or disagree? What would your top ten list be?

Homer Jay · Post #2 » by **Homer Jay** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 7:58 pm

By Position:
C- Fletcher
1B - Delgado
2B- Alomar
SS- Fernandez
3B - Sprague
LF - Bell
CF - Wells
RF - Bautista

Rotation:
Halladay
Stieb
Clemens
Hentgen
Wells

Bullpen:
Henke
Ward
Quantrill
Eichorn
Downs
Schoenweiss

satyr9 · Post #3 » by **satyr9** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 8:40 pm

Put Bautista (Jose, not Tony

) at 3B (or at least Gruber who has to be better than Sprague) so you can have Carter or Barfield in RF (and include a DH for Olerud). Other than that, Key before Wells is easy for me and I'd take Borders over Fletcher simply because Fletcher is nothing special and Borders won a WS MVP. And I think the reliever list is wrong, but I don't care enough to say who I'd pick instead.

Randle McMurphy · Post #4 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 8:58 pm

Homer Jay wrote:Schoenweiss

zong · Post #5 » by **zong** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 9:24 pm

no love for DH? Paul Molitor is dissapoint.

beater97 · Post #6 » by **beater97** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 9:35 pm

Schoenweiss

I like that!

RocLaFamilia · Post #7 » by **RocLaFamilia** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 9:46 pm

Devon White before Wells

Homer Jay · Post #8 » by **Homer Jay** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 9:51 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Homer Jay wrote:Schoenweiss

My Fault, I was thinking of Dan Plesac for the situational lefty, and for some reason mixed him up with Schoenweiss

Looking at all LHP for Toronto in general, man is it thin. Only starters that really stand out would be Key, Wells, and Romero. The bullpen really lacks there even worse.

evilRyu · Post #9 » by **evilRyu** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 9:57 pm

Homer Jay wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Homer Jay wrote:Schoenweiss

My Fault, I was thinking of Dan Plesac for the situational lefty, and for some reason mixed him up with Schoenweiss

Looking at all LHP for Toronto in general, man is it thin. Only starters that really stand out would be Key, Wells, and Romero. The bullpen really lacks there even worse.

What about BJ Ryan? He had one amazing season, and another decent one 2 years after.. I figured since you had Clemens, then Ryan could break the list as well.

Hummus · Post #10 » by **Hummus** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 10:17 pm

C: Kevin Ca$h (Zaunbie? wow, pathetic position historically)
1B: Delgado (honorable mention to John Olerud, who I tried to pencil in multiple times)
2B: Roberto
SS: Alex Gonzalez (LOL! jk jk - Alex Gonzalez 2.)
3B: Troy Glaus
LF: Bell
CF: Devon White
RF: Jose Bautista (honorable mentions to Shaun Green and Jesse Barfield)
DH: Paul Molitor (honorable mention to Dave Winfield)

P:
1. Doc Halladay
2. Dave Steib
3. Roger Clemens
4. Dave Cone
5. Juan Guzman

JoeyBats · Post #11 » by **JoeyBats** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 10:29 pm

Where's Brett Lawrie ?

Skin Blues · Post #12 » by **Skin Blues** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 10:45 pm

Sprague and Gruber sucked. Fan favourites because they were on the team in 92/93, but they weren't very good.

I'd go with:

C: Whitt
1: Delgado (Sorry, Crime Dog)
2: Robbie
3B: Mulliniks
SS: Fernandez
LF: Bell
CF: Wells
RF: Bautista
DH: Molitor

Rotation: Clemens, Halladay, Stieb, Key, and Doyle Alexander.

Bullpen: Henke, Ward, Downs, Quantrill, Eichorn, Frasor

Hendrix · Post #13 » by **Hendrix** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 11:13 pm

Devon White in 5 seasons with Jays- 22.7 WAR

Wells in 10+ seasons with the Jays- 25.8 WAR

Lateral Quicks · Post #14 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 11:27 pm

Of players that were with the team for more than a cup of coffee

LF Bell
CF White
RF Bautista
3B Mulliniks
SS Fernandez
2B Alomar
1B Delgado
C Whitt
DH Olerud

Halladay
Stieb
David Wells
Hentgen
Jimmy Key

Henke
Ward
Downs
Plesac
Eichorn
Errr... I'm sure I must be forgetting some meritorious bullpen guys...

baulderdash77 · Post #15 » by **baulderdash77** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 11:29 pm

Vernon deserves on the list. He's definitely been the best CF in team history.

3B has been a real black hole for this team. I have to give it to Kelly Gruber. He was a 2x all star, gold glove and won a silver slugger. That's the best performance we've had from 3B.

Skin Blues · Post #16 » by **Skin Blues** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 11:30 pm

I'm sure Wells had around 23 WAR if you look at only a 5 seasons, too. I chose Vernon over Devo because he was with the team for so much longer and was home-grown. The talent itself was fairly even, with Vernon being the better hitter and Devo the better fielder.

Weems · Post #17 » by **Weems** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 11:32 pm

I thought Shoeneweis was **** terrible when I started watching baseball, but he was actually pretty decent for us the one season, and really good overall against lefties. He never seemed to retire batters when I watched him.

But yeah, I'm sure B.J. Ryan has him beat as a lefty specialist. Or Plesac - not familiar with him.

Wally West · Post #18 » by **Wally West** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:58 am

No Jason Frasor for bullpen or just because he's the franchise leader in apperances doesn't mean he deserves to be an all time Jay?

JN · Post #19 » by JN » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:28 pm

Barry Bonnell

SharoneWright · Post #20 » by **SharoneWright** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:48 pm

Delgado
Alomar
Fernandez
Gruber
Whitt
Bell
Wells (cough)
Bautista
--- I'll DH a platoon of McGriff and Fielder...

Stieb
Halladay
Clemens
Hentgen
Key

Eichorn
Timlin
Cerutti
Downs

Ward/Henke

Coach: Bobby Cox

Mascot: BJ Birdie