Yankees make bid for Darvish

Relentless88 · Post #1 » by **Relentless88** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:48 am

According to a source with knowledge of the process, the Yankees submitted a posting bid to Major League Baseball offices by yesterday’s 5 p.m. deadline.
That puts them in position to cop exclusive negotiating rights to the 25-year-old right-hander if the bid is accepted by Nippon Ham Fighters for whom Darvish pitched since 2005.
The amount of the Yankees’ bid wasn’t known, but the club had been leery of sinking a possible $30 million into the bidding process believing Darvish would be seeking a five-year deal worth $75 million.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/ ... z1gecbEV00

Read somewhere that it's a "modest" bid.

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #2 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:23 am

The Toronto Blue Jays according to the NY Post made a "monster" posting bid. Doubt the Yankees bid comes anywhere close.

Relentless88 · Post #3 » by **Relentless88** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:44 am

Can someone on this board comment on how credible this source/article is?

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/ ... bjA9QYntaM

Don't really know much about that NY Post. Thanks.

Post #4 » by **moocow007** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:23 am

Possibly. If they win it'll be interesting to see if Yu actually agrees to a contract. There's been reports that Yu may actually not agree to a deal if the winning team is not to his liking. Not sure if the Jays qualify as like or not like.

Relentless88 · Post #5 » by **Relentless88** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:52 am

Darvish doesn't have a choice. If he can't agree to terms on a contract with the winning team, then he goes back to Japan, the team gets their money back, and Darvish's Japanese team will have to lose him for nothing next year.

Also Toronto is one of the largest North American markets, and has a large Asian population.

Dr. Detfink · Post #6 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:52 pm

Cashman doesn't have a lot of faith investing big coin in Asians especially after his answer to Dice-K was Kei Igawa.

If Toronto made a "Dice-K" esque bid, then Yu-betcha is headed to the Jays. Money talks.

I love this crap delusion that players today will take less to win. If you mean, Green Bay or NHL teams then sure...but it does not apply to NY teams.

It's also a double standard in NYC. I remember when sports reporters were irate Jeter wanted his money. Yet, Pujols bolts for another team for more coin and the reporters are all "Well it's ok he gave St. Louis 2 WS." Jeter helped provide 5 WS and was ostracized.

Post #7 » by **moocow007** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:56 pm

Relentless88 wrote:Darvish doesn't have a choice. If he can't agree to terms on a contract with the winning team, then he goes back to Japan, the team gets their money back, and Darvish's Japanese team will have to lose him for nothing next year.

Also Toronto is one of the largest North American markets, and has a large Asian population.

Sure he has a choice. He can choose not to sign a contract. Hes already said that if he doesnt like the situation hell go back, pitch another year in Japan. Hes got choices. Its the Hamfighters who is hamstrung. They cant afford him and need to get something for him before they lose him for nothing. And before you get too worked up i didnt say that the Jays would be considered a bad situation by Darvish if they win the bid.

Relentless88 · Post #8 » by **Relentless88** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:59 pm

moocow007 wrote:
Relentless88 wrote:Darvish doesn't have a choice. If he can't agree to terms on a contract with the winning team, then he goes back to Japan, the team gets their money back, and Darvish's Japanese team will have to lose him for nothing next year.

Also Toronto is one of the largest North American markets, and has a large Asian population.

Sure he has a choice. He can choose not to sign a contract. Hes already said that if he doesnt like the situation hell go back, pitch another year in Japan. Hes got choices. Its the Hamfighters who is hamstrung. They cant afford him and need to get something for him before they lose him for nothing. And before you get too worked up i didnt say that the Jays would be considered a bad situation by Darvish if they win the bid.

Darvish can do that, but it doesn't seem likely. Traditionally in Japanese culture, you don't screw over your elders (elders in this case would be his Japanese baseball team who NEED the cash and were apparently very excited about the offer). Of course that's a weak argument, but Darvish will make almost twice as much money in the majors as he did in Japan. That is a lot of money to reject.

thebuzzardman · Post #9 » by **thebuzzardman** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:51 pm

Should edit title to read:

"Yanks make BS bid they know they won't win on Darvish to appease fan base and generate some buzz"

I don't know why they bothered. They weren't "in it to win it"

Dr. Detfink · Post #10 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:13 am

The winning bid exceeded the ridiculous 51M the Sawx paid, just to negotiate with Dice-K. Who remembers the hype over Gyroball and his refusal to ice after starts? You couldn't give Dice-K away right now.

That's quite an investment over a period of time for Yu. We'll see if Toronto outbid the Yanks. But it's a huge risk.

Pharmcat · Post #11 » by **Pharmcat** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:18 am

rangers steal yankees lunch again

how can yankees be penny pinching when they gave soriano that ridicolous contract last year?

Dr. Detfink · Post #12 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:06 pm

Cause there is a contest of "I told ya so." between Levine & Cash money.

Cash & Bean counter Hal don't like rolling the dice. They prefer proven commodities (see Cliff Lee debacle).

But it's clear Cashman is saving their prospects in the event a pitcher is on the trade market. So in case Seattle gives up on King Felix, Cash will answer that phone. I just can't see that happening because no one wants i give up established pitching at a good price...and say one of the Yanks prospects turns into a blue chip...you would give that up?

All I gotta say is, Hal and Cash's bulls$&t "pitching is a #1 priority..." is missing a few descriptive words after.

Post #13 » by **moocow007** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:20 pm

Yep...yep. So how's Phil Hughes doing? Honestly out of everyone of the guys that started for them last season then one that I least trust is not Burnett but Hughes. Also appears that they better be sure about Noesi being able to hit and stick in the rotation. 98mph in mexican league did someone say?

Pharmcat · Post #14 » by **Pharmcat** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:38 pm

trading for a sp is gonna cost you 4-5 propects these days

might as well spend only cash to get 1, rangers obviously see it

Dr. Detfink · Post #15 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:18 pm

Gyroball anyone? I think I had one of those on 55th and 6th ave. Good food out of that truck.

Pharmcat · Post #16 » by **Pharmcat** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:28 pm

a 20 million bid for darvish? yet they gave soriano 30 mill eyes closed last season

this FO is becoming a joke lately and very cheap

Dr. Detfink · Post #17 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:18 am

Hey look, the Yanks are here to make money and if moneyball and the rest of MLB have taught us anything it's that not winning the WS can be profitable so long as you balance out the payroll. That's what Cashman and Beancounter Hal are looking at.

Yanks have to look at themselves in the mirror to win...not for an economic bailout.

I'm for building competition. I'm content with Yu going to Texas. I'm for letting the Yanks "much hyped riches of the minor league system" speak for itself. Once again, SHOW me...SHOW ME what you have, Cash.

But I also fear Hughes' health. I truly feel AJ may not be top chef material but he logs in the innings. Hughes looks good, breaks down, comes back from injury inconsistent, etc. Makes me REALLY worried about this kid.

Post #18 » by **moocow007** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:18 am

Dr. Detfink wrote:Hey look, the Yanks are here to make money and if moneyball and the rest of MLB have taught us anything it's that not winning the WS can be profitable so long as you balance out the payroll. That's what Cashman and Beancounter Hal are looking at.

Yanks have to look at themselves in the mirror to win...not for an economic bailout.

I'm for building competition. I'm content with Yu going to Texas. I'm for letting the Yanks "much hyped riches of the minor league system" speak for itself. Once again, SHOW me...SHOW ME what you have, Cash.

But I also fear Hughes' health. I truly feel AJ may not be top chef material but he logs in the innings. Hughes looks good, breaks down, comes back from injury inconsistent, etc. Makes me REALLY worried about this kid.

Yep agreed totally.