VOTE: LAL MIN from Trade Board

[shrink]

LA offers:
12 DAL 1st*
12 LAL 1st
14 LAL 1st*
Darius Morris
Devin Ebanks
$6.3 mil TPE

--for--

Michael Beasley
Luke Ridnour


Figure the Odom TPE into the equation here somehow acquiring the players... LA offers 3 1st round picks to what seemingly are Wolves' excesses. By no means are they bad players or 'not needed' they just figure into the 'less needed' category.

Would the Wolves consider such?

Ebanks and Morris are promising youngsters in their own right.

[Fire Mchale]

I think I go for it though I'm curious as to whether or not the asterisks mean the picks are protected. Ridnour has no long-term role here and ultimately becomes a negative contract if we have to pay him 4M a year to ride the pines. I think he goes one way or another before the start of next season. I'm also not married to Beasley so if you could get me young bench depth on affordable contracts and 3 first round picks I have to go for it.

I know you have to go with the trade as it sits, but I would look at this trade as merely the first step to my next trade - which is acquiring the player the Wolves really want. The two players I most covet are Eric Gordon and Anthony Davis from Kentucky. If three added firsts and two young players increase my chances of acquiring either one, I do this deal.

The deal makes a ton of sense for the Lakers who have zero bench depth and could really use a spot-up shooter in Ridnour.

[Tirion]

of course I'd do this deal if I'm Wolves, that trade is horribly skewed in their favor value-wise.

[funkatron101]

Most, if not all of those assets would be traded. That's a rebuilding package, IMO. The Wolves need some vets, not a bunch more of unproven youth.

As is, I think the Wolves say no. Expand it to a third team that nets the Wolves a decent vet or two and that might change.

[BeasleyTheBeast]

I made a trade similar to that

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1152914&p=29957374

This trade involves Michael Beasley and Luke Ridnour from the Wolves side, and Metta World Peace from the Lakers side.

Minnesota Timberwolves Send: Michael Beasley, Luke Ridnour

Los Angeles Lakers Send: Metta World Peace, Devin Ebanks, 2012 Mavericks 1st Round Pick, 2013 Lakers 1st Round Pick

Found this trade idea on another site and I thought it was a fair and right deal for both sides. Lakers get a young combo forward who could work effectively off the bench or be their future 3 for coming years. As well as Luke Ridnour who would be an upgrade over Fisher, and Blake as the Lakers starting PG. Wolves get rid of Beasley and get a veteran who was coached by Rick Adleman before and get the 2 first round drafts picks, and Devin Ebanks.

Los Angeles Lakers

PG Luke Ridnour/Derek Fisher/Steve Blake
SG Kobe Bryant/Matt Barnes
SF Michael Beasley/Luke Walton
PF Pau Gasol/Josh McRoberts/Troy Murphy
C Andrew Bynum

Minnesota Timberwolves

PG Ricky Rubio/JJ Barea
SG Wesley Johnson/Wayne Ellington
SF Metta World Peace/Derrick Williams/Devin Ebanks
PF Kevin Love/Anthony Randolph/Anthony Tolliver
C Darko Milicic/Brad Miller

[Worm Guts]

I don't know, even if value is in our favor, I think the trade would make us worse.

[funkatron101]

I don't know, even if value is in our favor, I think the trade would make us worse.

Short-term, it absolutely would. Long-term, it is debatable, but I don't want to worry about having to package a bunch of mediocre assets to net us what we want.

[cpfsf]

Too soon to tell. Wait until the trade deadline so we have a better idea how valuable the picks are and if we're a playoff team or not.

[phonzadellika]

Too soon to tell. Wait until the trade deadline so we have a better idea how valuable the picks are and if we're a playoff team or not.

This

I like what I've seen out of Ebanks though the few times I've seen him play, so if the Wolves pulled the trigger on this trade immediately, were it available, I wouldn't hate it.

[The J Rocka]

Definitely a rebuilding type trade. Could help us out in the future but I'd rather not go this route. Trade our players + picks for proven talent. Lakers are just throwing in young role players + picks (like we need anymore young players in the draft) to get the solid PG they're looking for and a younger player with plenty of potential left in Beasley. I think Beasley being around a winning environment and vets, like Kobe, he could become better. That would be the last thing I'd want to do, help the Lakers. I feel this trade helps them more than us.

[phonzadellika]

Definitely a rebuilding type trade. Could help us out in the future but I'd rather not go this route. Trade our players + picks for proven talent. Lakers are just throwing in young role players + picks (like we need anymore young players in the draft) to get the solid PG they're looking for and a younger player with plenty of potential left in Beasley. I think Beasley being around a winning environment and vets, like Kobe, he could become better. That would be the last thing I'd want to do, help the Lakers. I feel this trade helps them more than us.

I think you're right that it probably does help the Lakers more than it helps us in the short-term, but I think it could be the right type of trade at the deadline to give the Wolves some flexibility at dealing with some other teams that might want to blow it up by giving us some flexible assets in draft picks. Once we can project sort of where everyone will probably finish at we'll know if it's a decent trade. If we couldn't find a good trade partner for the picks then we maybe we could slip into the late lottery by trading the Utah pick (if conveyed) and one or both of the later picks.

I'd be probably be happiest with Ridnour for 2012 LAL 1st, 2012 DAL 1st and maybe Morris. Would like to keep SCB as a 6th man if he's amenable to the role.

[eyeteeth]

Yeah, I'm a lot happier trading Ridnour next offseason than I am right now. There are just too many games and too many people are getting hurt. Having 3 PGs gives us leeway in what could otherwise be a very tight situation.

[Saltine]

No way. Morris and Ebanks are expiring garbage players who waste roster spots.
This deal hurts our team, now and in the future. We already have 4 mid-to late picks over the next 3 drafts, 7 picks with this deal. Does that really seem like a good idea?

3 twenty something picks. Getting 'rid' of Beasley is a great idea in an idiots mind. His contract expires after this season, the idea he is a negative who should be given the Lakers is absurd; is he stealing to many minutes from Wes at SF? lol

Luke has value to at least half a dozen teams that need a PG, and the dude can shoot. Which helps us win games, like the last one we played. Moving Luke for someone Like Mayo makes sense.

Moving either of them for garbage picks that maybe you could combine to get a player that maybe would be as good as Luke or Beas in a few years is idiotic. Twenty something picks are sold every year because they are so awesome... LA is just looking for a sucker.

[younggunsmn]

No frickin way. I'm not making the Lakers better so we can draft a bunch of wayne ellingtons and lazar haywards. Morris/Ebanks aren't rotation players. Beasley and Ridnour are the only top 8 rotation-level assets in the entire trade. We don't even get a SG or C back.

Let them rot with all their old and injury prone players and awful contracts.

I think it's best to let beasley play out the season and assess his situation in the summer, unless we are blown away by being offered a core piece. The Houston game where he dropped 34 showed exactly how he needs to be used, as a low-post SF.

[yowyOw]

WTF? Is this a joke? That trade is TuRRIBLE for the Wolves. Beas is our best asset. Morris and Ebanks are not even playing right now (I think Ebanks is injured). The TPE is useless and every Laker fan says that. And the picks don't have any big value since both teams are a lock in PO.

Luke alone has more value than their whole package.

Lakers fans are deluded and desperate.


PS. I'd give them Luke (not Beas) if instead of Morris and Ebanks they were sending Goudelock.

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[Saltine]

I agree; Let them rot!
lol

That Dallas pick;
top 20 protected in the 2012 draft, top 20 protected in 2013, top 20 protected in 2014, top 20 protected in 2015, top 20 protected in 2016, top 20 protected in 2017 and unprotected in the 2018 Draft.

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/ ... s/detailed

And you can't trade a TPE, it can only be used to acquire a player for LA, so it is irrelevant for us.

[shrink]

And you can't trade a TPE, it can only be used to acquire a player for LA, so it is irrelevant for us.

I put the TPE in, not because it was traded, but because that's what would be generated by the trade.

[Klomp]

Beas is our best asset.

No he's not. We'd be screwed if he was.

[Krapinsky]

I'd do it. Those draft picks could help us get a RFA this summer that I'd rather have than Beasley, be it Gordon, Chandler or Batum.

[[RCG]]

Absolutely no reason to trade Beasley and Ridnour for a bunch of really late 1sts that will probably turn out like Lazar Hayward.