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Post#1 » by Superiorblogman » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:34 am

Guy is really undersized for the SG position and also he is always seemingly injured. NO did not extend him and he will be restricted FA this summer. If we could amnesty JJ and someone paid say $15 mill a year for him over the next 4 years. We would be about $12 mill under the cap for next year. Well after signing our 1st rd pick if we kept it we would be like $11 mill under. Would you make a run at Gordon if we were not able to get one of the Centers for that amount?

His qualifying offer is a little over $5 million. I'm sure NO will tenure him that but then the bidding begins. Not so sure he is the guy NO will be willing to spend on if they don't have a owner. Especially if Bradley Beal, Jeremy Lamb, or maybe even Rivers from Duke is there.

Note: Even if that hold mess applies we would still be under salary with 7 players under contract. Holds could amount to about $5 million and drop us to $6 million under which would not really make us a player unless we could move Josh for cap space and get $18 million under then go after Gordon $8 million and a Center of Lopez,Hibbert,McGee about $10 million. Just assume the holds mess does not complicate things.
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Post#2 » by MaceCase » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:16 pm

If only we had a different owner would I bother entertaining that scenario.
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Post#3 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:58 pm

:-?

Joe Johnson is waaaaaay better than Eric Gordon.

JJ is rarely hurt.

JJ is a beast defensively at 6'7". He can guard three positions.

This is a downgrade in talent.
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Post#4 » by parson » Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:05 pm

Cutting off our collective nose to spite our face.

As with Josh Smith, Joe's a good player (I say that even when I'm mad at him for coasting), whom we should only get rid of if it allows us to get a good Center.

A talent downgrade, just because we're mad at a player, makes little sense. In your proposal, we downgrade from Joe to Gordon and still don't have a Center.

If anyone can show a way to trade/anmesty/dump Joe (or Josh) that brings in a Center, I'm all ears.
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Re: Eric Gordon 

Post#5 » by evildallas » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:39 pm

You do understand that Amnesty still means you pay the player. Joe still has about $89M on his deal after this year. Few owners have the financially flexibility to pay someone 89M to go away. Especially true when that player is the 2nd best SG in the conference and possibly the 3rd or 4th best in the league. Yes he eats a lot of cap space, more than he should, but he's not going away. You have to find a way to win in spite of his contract.

There likely won't be an in-season trade unless it is Kirk Hinrich for tax relief.
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Re: Eric Gordon 

Post#6 » by Superiorblogman » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:16 pm

evildallas wrote:You do understand that Amnesty still means you pay the player. Joe still has about $89M on his deal after this year. Few owners have the financially flexibility to pay someone 89M to go away. Especially true when that player is the 2nd best SG in the conference and possibly the 3rd or 4th best in the league. Yes he eats a lot of cap space, more than he should, but he's not going away. You have to find a way to win in spite of his contract.

There likely won't be an in-season trade unless it is Kirk Hinrich for tax relief.


If you had read the post you would understand that it begins by basically saying that someone would probably pay Joe $15 mill per year which would mean we would only be on the hook for $5 million next year. You do understand that the amount the bidding team pays is deducted from what the original team owes?
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Post#7 » by MaceCase » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:39 pm

What team with 15 mil in cap would spend it all on Joe? And it's not just thinking that a team will have 15 mil in cap to burn, there would have to be 2-3 competing teams with close to 15 mil in cap to burn to go along with a burning desire to sign Joe for any of them to run up his price that high. Just look at Chauncey, he was the only amnestied free agent bid on and the Clippers won with all of a 2 million and a ridiculous by any standards 32 dollars bid.
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Re: Eric Gordon 

Post#8 » by Superiorblogman » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:27 pm

MaceCase wrote:What team with 15 mil in cap would spend it all on Joe? And it's not just thinking that a team will have 15 mil in cap to burn, there would have to be 2-3 competing teams with close to 15 mil in cap to burn to go along with a burning desire to sign Joe for any of them to run up his price that high. Just look at Chauncey, he was the only amnestied free agent bid on and the Clippers won with all of a 2 million and a ridiculous by any standards 32 dollars bid.


I understand what you are saying but I think Joe's market value is atleast $15 million a year. He is still arguably the 3rd best SG in the league.

Don't see many candidates that would have that money to pay though.

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