Howard or Carroll?

Reckless · Post #1 » by **Reckless** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:15 pm

Carroll has been able to gel with the team in a short period of time and be a junkyard dog type player. Howard is more of a shooter/scorer.If you had to choose between Howard and Carroll to bring back next season who would you choose.

Oh and Chucker J Miles is out of the question in case you were wondering.

russnumber3 · Post #2 » by **russnumber3** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:55 pm

ut_jazz wrote:Carroll has been able to gel with the team in a short period of time and be a junkyard dog type player. Howard is more of a shooter/scorer.If you had to choose between Howard and Carroll to bring back next season who would you choose.

Oh and Chucker J Miles is out of the question in case you were wondering.

From a statistical standpoint CJ is actually slightly better than Howard, but ok.

Efernand · Post #3 » by **Efernand** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:31 pm

I think Carroll brings more to the table than either Howard or CJ and we could probably resign him for the minimum.

outerspacefella · Post #4 » by **outerspacefella** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:35 pm

Carroll of course. I want him back next year.

outerspacefella · Post #5 » by **outerspacefella** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:37 pm

Efernand wrote:I think Carroll brings more to the table than either Howard or CJ and we could probably resign him for the minimum.

Not gonna happen for the minimum.

habibadobe · Post #6 » by **habibadobe** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:52 pm

I am 90% sure that Carroll got a 2 year contract when we picked him up. On one of the O'Conner interviews he said something about having him next year as well. I guess it could be a team option for second year or something like that, but I think he will be back and he is better then CJ or Howard.

outerspacefella · Post #7 » by **outerspacefella** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:58 pm

habibadobe wrote:I am 90% sure that Carroll got a 2 year contract when we picked him up...

Not according hoopshype; shamsports just don't have Carrol listed... Hope you got it right though...

outerspacefella · Post #8 » by **outerspacefella** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:03 pm

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/jazz/53932 ... csp?page=2

Look at the bottom of the article... it says "if the Jazz can resign him"...

The59Sound · Post #9 » by **The59Sound** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:04 pm

habibadobe wrote:I am 90% sure that Carroll got a 2 year contract when we picked him up. On one of the O'Conner interviews he said something about having him next year as well. I guess it could be a team option for second year or something like that, but I think he will be back and he is better then CJ or Howard.

For what it's worth, Carroll quoted Jamal saying something to the effect of: "The Jazz will probably only give you a year, but you're auditioning for the rest of the league."

My personal recollection is that it isn't a two-year deal, but I'd be happy to be wrong.

MeestR · Post #10 » by **MeestR** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:22 pm

carroll.

i really like howard. sucks for his career where it is right now. bummer of those injuries. i think howard is too much of a risk next season. and i think howard's veteran minimum is a bit higher than carroll's minimum.

babyjax13 · Post #11 » by **babyjax13** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:32 pm

MeestR wrote:carroll.

i really like howard. sucks for his career where it is right now. bummer of those injuries. i think howard is too much of a risk next season. and i think howard's veteran minimum is a bit higher than carroll's minimum.

Not for the team paying it, the NBA picks up everything after $854,389 (number will most likely change next season); so even though Howard gets paid more, it costs the same for the Jazz.

MeestR · Post #12 » by **MeestR** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:53 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
MeestR wrote:carroll.

i really like howard. sucks for his career where it is right now. bummer of those injuries. i think howard is too much of a risk next season. and i think howard's veteran minimum is a bit higher than carroll's minimum.

Not for the team paying it, the NBA picks up everything after $854,389 (number will most likely change next season); so even though Howard gets paid more, it costs the same for the Jazz.

nice. i did not know that. thanks

Thats_my_chippy · Post #13 » by **Thats_my_chippy** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:16 am

Andrei Kirilenko

HolyToledo · Post #14 » by **HolyToledo** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:18 pm

Im pretty sure the Jazz signed Carroll for the remainder of the season with a team option for next year. In any case, Carroll should start the rest of the season (I thought I would never being saying that) while Howard should get limited miniutes until he proves he is even able to be effective after the injury.

russnumber3 · Post #15 » by **russnumber3** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:55 pm

Thats_my_chippy wrote:Andrei Kirilenko

This!

Spottieottie · Post #16 » by **Spottieottie** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:15 pm

No AK. Never again

outerspacefella · Post #17 » by **outerspacefella** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:48 pm

Spottieottie wrote:No AK. Never again

This.

Jgolds · Post #18 » by **Jgolds** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:11 pm

carroll all the way. howard has one of the same problems big Al has. they kill the offense occasionally. the ball gets in their hands and their teamates dont know what to do. they dont know if they should cut or post up or screen. cause they dont know if howard or al is going to pass or shoot or turn the ball over..... the both make really stupid plays. the best grouth i have seen all year is that al's court vison is getting better. sadly i cant say the same about howard.

Xsy · Post #19 » by **Xsy** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:58 am

Junkyard Dog.

He loves playing the role that he's playing, and I love him for embracing it.

Howard, to me, was always looking like he was trying to prove more than his abilities, which ended up being a lot of bad possessions.

OC Jazzfan · Post #20 » by **OC Jazzfan** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:25 pm

I really like Carroll's effort and grit.

And I can't believe how much more I've enjoyed watching the games since CJ has been out.