DAGGER - The Buck and Phil Thread

Post #1 » by **jmrosenth** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 6:57 pm

DAGGER

courtesy Wizznutzz

Post #2 » by **jmrosenth** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 6:59 pm

And oh yea, the quote in my sig is from imperium's convo with an ex-girlfriend of Buck he had a few years ago.

dobrojim · Post #3 » by **dobrojim** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 6:59 pm

no surprise to anyone who's read what I've said about it.

I have a lot of sympathy for Buck. Easy mistake to make.
Those making fun are taking cheap shots especially given
that can't possibly know how it looked as Buck saw it happen.

edit to add - Yeah, JRo, some of us remember the whole Buck-dagger
Imp drunk in a bar story. Too funny. Probably a good thing the GF
had no idea what Imp was talking about. He either would have received
a major blush or a serious slap.

Post #4 » by **jmrosenth** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:01 pm

I remember being critical of Buckhantzism's (sp?) in a couple columns when I used to cover the team for RealGM. I heard he was really upset about it. I think he's gotten a thicker skin over the years, and he definitely saved the day with his self-depreciating "retraction." I don't love Buck, but I've grown to like him in a DC sports homer sort of way. After all, he got his big start as a local sportscaster on Channel 5 (Yea, I know I didn't say Fox, deal with it, I'm old school).

dobrojim · Post #5 » by **dobrojim** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:03 pm

I guess we know what you call that airport on the Potomac too.

LOL

bgroban · Post #6 » by **bgroban** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:14 pm

Steve B has grown on me over the years, too.

Of course being a former HTS junkie, I still miss Mel Proctor. Nobody called an Orioles game better.

"Orsulak back to the wall, leaps, AND MAKES A SPECTACULAR CATCH!!"

EDIT: BTW, I am glad Steve and Phil finally get their own thread. Long overdue.

Post #7 » by **montestewart** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:24 pm

dobrojim wrote:I guess we know what you call that airport on the Potomac too.

LOL

Yeah, well how many conservatives say Baltimore/Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport even though it just rolls off the tongue.

Post #8 » by **jmrosenth** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:25 pm

dobrojim wrote:I guess we know what you call that airport on the Potomac too.

LOL

I mean, does anyone call it Reagan? I think most just refer to it as "DCA" or "National" when referring to it.

Post #9 » by **W. Unseld** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:29 pm

I have noticed when I fast forward through a game--even if I don't know the outcome--it's just not the same as getting the full Buck & Phil effect. It's part of our commone heritage that makes us/condemns us to be Wiz fans. I consider Buck & Phil to be a plus as a Wiz fan and if you don't agree w/me listen to some of the other home team announcers around the league.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #10 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:34 pm

Since they can't actually see the game too well from how far back they're sitting, here's a suggestion: Tricked out opera glasses for Buck and Phil

http://www.meijer.com/s/barska-3x25-blu ... _/R-221606

Of course, if he wears these Buck might have to change his voice inflection to a more dignified and refined, "Dagger" He might go with a fake British accent.

Post #11 » by **nate33** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:47 pm

W. Unseld wrote:I have noticed when I fast forward through a game--even if I don't know the outcome--it's just not the same as getting the full Buck & Phil effect. It's part of our commone heritage that makes us/condemns us to be Wiz fans. I consider Buck & Phil to be a plus as a Wiz fan and if you don't agree w/me listen to some of the other home team announcers around the league.

Agreed. Buck and Phil are way better than most announcers. There's a few out there that I like, but most are terrible. Cleveland's color commentary guy must be the worst in professional sports. Everything point he makes is a patently obvious cliche. And the Boston guys are well known for their annoying homerism. Portland's guys don't do their homework and make up analysis on the fly that is 100% incorrect.

New Jersey's guys are real good.

dobrojim · Post #12 » by **dobrojim** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:51 pm

jmrosenth wrote:
dobrojim wrote:I guess we know what you call that airport on the Potomac too.

LOL

I mean, does anyone call it Reagan? I think most just refer to it as "DCA" or "National" when referring to it.

no.

and to MS's point, I don't call it T-Marshall airport either even though I do
believe he was a GIANT of my times (in a more positive way than RR).

dobrojim · Post #13 » by **dobrojim** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:54 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Since they can't actually see the game too well from how far back they're sitting, here's a suggestion: Tricked out opera glasses for Buck and Phil

http://www.meijer.com/s/barska-3x25-blu ... _/R-221606

Of course, if he wears these Buck might have to change his voice inflection to a more dignified and refined, "Dagger" He might go with a fake British accent.

it was more about the angle than the distance.

the fact that the ball tickled the net as it went past also made it very
easy for his interpretation to be wrong.

as I'm told defense attorneys say, an eye witness is the most
UN-reliable of types of evidence.

dobrojim · Post #14 » by **dobrojim** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:56 pm

I'm constantly struck by how often Dick Stockton can say something
that is completely wrong, ie. not what just happened.

He has a nice voice and might be a really decent guy, but he needs
to retire.

tontoz · Post #15 » by **tontoz** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:56 pm

Watching it live my reaction was confusion. Ariza was clearly turning away in disgust but Buck was going nuts. I was like.....huh?

I would agree that they are better than most. Heinsohn is absolutely horrible.

dobrojim · Post #16 » by **dobrojim** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 8:01 pm

bgroban wrote:Steve B has grown on me over the years, too.

Of course being a former HTS junkie, I still miss Mel Proctor. Nobody called an Orioles game better.

"Orsulak back to the wall, leaps, AND MAKES A SPECTACULAR CATCH!!"

EDIT: BTW, I am glad Steve and Phil finally get their own thread. Long overdue.

I thought Mel was better at hoops than baseball.

Who remembers James Brown as our color analyst?
He was really good IMO.

sfam · Post #17 » by **sfam** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 8:12 pm

On PTI, Kornheiser and Wilbon said the reason Buck blew the call is because Leonsis sold their usual seats, and that their current location is so bad they just can't see the court so well. Is this true?

Severn Hoos · Post #18 » by **Severn Hoos** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 9:07 pm

A thread dedicated to Phil & Buck? How do you like that?

dobrojim · Post #19 » by **dobrojim** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 9:10 pm

the current seats are not that bad. They just happen to be at an angle
that made it tricky to make the call in question. I think most people
here would take sitting in those seats anytime.

here is the view from those seats (put in sec 110 row T)

http://www.seats3d.com/nba/washington_wizards/#/p_110_6/

I don't blame Ted for a moment for selling those seats courtside.
I'm sure he's getting a pretty penny for them.

sfam · Post #20 » by **sfam** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 9:15 pm

dobrojim wrote:the current seats are not that bad. They just happen to be at an angle
that made it tricky to make the call in question. I think most people
here would take sitting in those seats anytime.

here is the view from those seats (put in sec 110 row T)

http://www.seats3d.com/nba/washington_wizards/#/p_110_6/

I don't blame Ted for a moment for selling those seats courtside.
I'm sure he's getting a pretty penny for them.

Wow, as far as broadcasting a game goes, those are damn lousy seats. If that angle is accurate, Kornheiser and Wilbon are right - Ted deserves the blame here. He may be getting a pretty penny for those seats, but he's also responsible for national ridicule for the Dagger comment. If I were Buck, I'd mention this somewhat angrily to the Wizards FO.