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Monroe's trade value
Ok, I'm not saying this is what we should do, but it is an option to trade Monroe. Of course he's valuable. Of course we should get a ton for him. But what is a realistic trade? If we could get 2 starters, would it be worth it? If it helps us carry over our cap space another year, does that factor in?
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I wonder if we could trade him for a starter and a lottery pick and maybe a future #1.
Something like the Cavs trade us #3, 31,33 and Miles(team option) for Moose?
Draft Porter and Zeller and trade those 2nds for a future 1st. That would allow you to spend that cap space on the backcourt and bench.
Something like the Cavs trade us #3, 31,33 and Miles(team option) for Moose?
Draft Porter and Zeller and trade those 2nds for a future 1st. That would allow you to spend that cap space on the backcourt and bench.
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i think the only way we trade Moose is if we get a clear upgrade. And even then you have to look at age and contract. we'd need a superstar coming back for moose and picks or something along those lines
Getting 2 lesser starters then i don't think it's worth it.
Getting 2 lesser starters then i don't think it's worth it.
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Warspite wrote:I wonder if we could trade him for a starter and a lottery pick and maybe a future #1.
Something like the Cavs trade us #3, 31,33 and Miles(team option) for Moose?
Draft Porter and Zeller and trade those 2nds for a future 1st. That would allow you to spend that cap space on the backcourt and bench.
No offense, but I think the worst thing we could do would be to trade Moose for eventual unproven young players.
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Realistically, Moose would net either
1. Top 5 lotto pick
2. An aging star (Paul Pierce)
3. An up and coming young player (Kwahi Leonard)
He's worth more than that to this organization.
1. Top 5 lotto pick
2. An aging star (Paul Pierce)
3. An up and coming young player (Kwahi Leonard)
He's worth more than that to this organization.
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idk how you could ever trade when in these NBA playoffs has shown that interior offense/defense wins in the postseason. The Pistons are gonna have 2 6'11 beasts roaming the paint in the playoffs in a year or 2 and gonna cause teams serious match up problems. Just need another 6'11 big for depth and the Pistons are set there
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I think Monroe has really good value, and as much as I'd like to keep him, I think that trading him is the fastest way for us to return to relevance. That said, I think that we should only trade him for an SG/SF and then get a PF in free agency. There aren't really any good SGs/SFs in FA this offseason so trading Monroe for another PF (unless he's CLEARLY better) puts us right back to where we are now.
If we could make a trade such as Monroe + Singler for Kawhi Leonard + Danny Green and a future first from San Antonio and then sign a big such as Josh Smith or Al Jefferson (I think I'd prefer Smith because of the defense and blocks) I think trading Monroe would be worth it. Smith might not be a huge upgrade over Monroe however it's at worst a lateral move (imo) and Kawhi is better than any SF we could acquire in free agency. Then the only position we need to fix would be SG and we could do that in the draft with Oladipo (my preference) or Shabazz or through free agency. If we didn't draft Oladipo Signing Dalembert should be a top priority for our backup C as Slava clearly isn't ready.
We would then have a lineup of:
Knight/Stuckey
Oladipo (Shabazz)/Green/English
Kawhi/Middleton
Smith/Villanueva/Jerebko
Drummond/Dalembert/Slava
That would be a great defensive starting lineup. It might not be the strongest offensively, but I would rather start with a good defensive team and then add shooters later than the other way around. I really think that this team could compete for at least the 7 and 8 seeds.
If we could make a trade such as Monroe + Singler for Kawhi Leonard + Danny Green and a future first from San Antonio and then sign a big such as Josh Smith or Al Jefferson (I think I'd prefer Smith because of the defense and blocks) I think trading Monroe would be worth it. Smith might not be a huge upgrade over Monroe however it's at worst a lateral move (imo) and Kawhi is better than any SF we could acquire in free agency. Then the only position we need to fix would be SG and we could do that in the draft with Oladipo (my preference) or Shabazz or through free agency. If we didn't draft Oladipo Signing Dalembert should be a top priority for our backup C as Slava clearly isn't ready.
We would then have a lineup of:
Knight/Stuckey
Oladipo (Shabazz)/Green/English
Kawhi/Middleton
Smith/Villanueva/Jerebko
Drummond/Dalembert/Slava
That would be a great defensive starting lineup. It might not be the strongest offensively, but I would rather start with a good defensive team and then add shooters later than the other way around. I really think that this team could compete for at least the 7 and 8 seeds.
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I don't mind doing something like this:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c3su9wd
Detroit receives:
Rajon Rondo
Avery Bradley
Jared Sullinger
Boston receives:
Stuckey
Jerebko
Monroe
Singler
future 1st round pick
If Monroe can be traded for a top-tier point guard with a great all around game, I'd be amazed.
I'm impress with Tobias Harris game, I feel like if we can trade Knight for him, our small forward problem will be solve and we can focus on drafting/signing a good man in the draft.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c3su9wd
Detroit receives:
Rajon Rondo
Avery Bradley
Jared Sullinger
Boston receives:
Stuckey
Jerebko
Monroe
Singler
future 1st round pick
If Monroe can be traded for a top-tier point guard with a great all around game, I'd be amazed.
I'm impress with Tobias Harris game, I feel like if we can trade Knight for him, our small forward problem will be solve and we can focus on drafting/signing a good man in the draft.
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dVs33 wrote:i think the only way we trade Moose is if we get a clear upgrade. And even then you have to look at age and contract. we'd need a superstar coming back for moose and picks or something along those lines
Getting 2 lesser starters then i don't think it's worth it.
This. You don't trade Monroe for lesser parts.
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vege wrote:dVs33 wrote:i think the only way we trade Moose is if we get a clear upgrade. And even then you have to look at age and contract. we'd need a superstar coming back for moose and picks or something along those lines
Getting 2 lesser starters then i don't think it's worth it.
This. You don't trade Monroe for lesser parts.
Unless you can trade him for valuable help at another position that you can't acquire through free agency and can get a player to replace him to can do a similar job.
I get that Monroe is really young and has lots of room to improve, but is keeping him really worth it if it means we still have holes at SG/SF? I'd much rather keep Monroe on this team than trade him, but if we could trade him for good value at another position and get a player through FA to replace his production and maybe add a little more defense that's absolutely worth it.
If the Pistons wanna be good next season (which it looks like they do) then they're most likely going to have to fill the SG/SF holes without free agency. Everywhere on the board I see people talking about acquiring Corey Brewer to be our SF next season. If Brewer is seriously one of our top SF possibilities then clearly you're not going to be able to get a good SF through FA. I'm sorry but I'd much rather trade Monroe+Singler for Kawhi+Green and sign Josh Smith than run with Brewer and Monroe next season. If you wanna acquire talent you have to be prepared to give up talent. There's a lack of talent at the SG/SF positions in free agency this offseason, and our best bet to filling those positions is with Monroe.
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You could probably trade him to NO for Ryan Anderson and their 2013 first round pick (unless they get the #1 pick again).
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I probably wouldn't trade Moose for 2 lesser players, but it may depend on the value. I'd look to package him for an All-Star (or borderline) caliber PG/SG/SF.
Hell, I still have a man-crush on KLove. I know he's been injured, but something about Love/Drummond just makes me giddy. He wants out of Minny, we can offer some cap-relief and a young, replacement big.
I'd consider making a run at Rondo with Knight/Monroe/JJ, but I dunno what Bostons asking price would be. The SA angle is interesting, as they'll need a replacement for Timmy...but I'd be reluctant to deal with Pop/Bufford. Can't help but feel like they'd bend us over somehow.
Not really sure what other players are available, but not super high on the idea of swapping him for a pick. I'd want more proven talent and we've taken enough steps back. It's time to step forward.
Hell, I still have a man-crush on KLove. I know he's been injured, but something about Love/Drummond just makes me giddy. He wants out of Minny, we can offer some cap-relief and a young, replacement big.
I'd consider making a run at Rondo with Knight/Monroe/JJ, but I dunno what Bostons asking price would be. The SA angle is interesting, as they'll need a replacement for Timmy...but I'd be reluctant to deal with Pop/Bufford. Can't help but feel like they'd bend us over somehow.
Not really sure what other players are available, but not super high on the idea of swapping him for a pick. I'd want more proven talent and we've taken enough steps back. It's time to step forward.
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Natopher wrote:
Unless you can trade him for valuable help at another position that you can't acquire through free agency and can get a player to replace him to can do a similar job.
Nope. You don't trade Monroe for lesser parts. Period.
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theBigLip wrote:But what is a realistic trade?
Until one of Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, Kyrie Irving, John Wall, Carmelo Anthony, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Blake Griffin or James Harden are on the market and their team is interested in a package around Monroe there is no realistic trade for Monroe.
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is shrinking by the day as his pay day gets closer. he definitely has good value, but im not sure what a Moose trade would bring back players wise. I think he would easily bring back the #1 pick in this draft.
im kind torn on the issue of whether or not to trade him. I was all for trading him earlier in the year, if the right move came along. but after watching the chemistry that he and Dre showed in the few games they were able to play together, im starting to think we should just roll with what we have and hope Moose starts knocking down his midrange shot and starts being a little more decisive when he has the ball in his hands.
my two biggest issues with Moose are his D and his 4th quarter disappearing acts. I think having Dre next to him, not having to try to anchor the defense and defending PFs instead of Centers will help make him look at least serviceable on D. his lack of clutch will probably always be an issue, but hopefully through the draft or FA we can bring in a closer or BK develops into that guy.
we have until next years trade deadline to evaluate the situation but right now im leaning towards keeping him unless a godfather offer were to come along.
im kind torn on the issue of whether or not to trade him. I was all for trading him earlier in the year, if the right move came along. but after watching the chemistry that he and Dre showed in the few games they were able to play together, im starting to think we should just roll with what we have and hope Moose starts knocking down his midrange shot and starts being a little more decisive when he has the ball in his hands.
my two biggest issues with Moose are his D and his 4th quarter disappearing acts. I think having Dre next to him, not having to try to anchor the defense and defending PFs instead of Centers will help make him look at least serviceable on D. his lack of clutch will probably always be an issue, but hopefully through the draft or FA we can bring in a closer or BK develops into that guy.
we have until next years trade deadline to evaluate the situation but right now im leaning towards keeping him unless a godfather offer were to come along.
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If I trade Monroe, i'd want a young wing player back period. I dont care what personal or more value to the organization any of us have. If a deal out there makes us better we have to do it. I wouldn't trade Drummond or our pick though.
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Quality bigs are much harder to come by than Guards.
Monroe is about All-Star level.
If Pistons traded Monroe for anybody, it better be an All-Star caliber player.
Monroe is about All-Star level.
If Pistons traded Monroe for anybody, it better be an All-Star caliber player.

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vege wrote:dVs33 wrote:i think the only way we trade Moose is if we get a clear upgrade. And even then you have to look at age and contract. we'd need a superstar coming back for moose and picks or something along those lines
Getting 2 lesser starters then i don't think it's worth it.
This. You don't trade Monroe for lesser parts.
^ Both of these again. In the NBA, four quarters don't equal a dollar; in short, a single A-level star is worth more than the sum of multiple B-level ones. However ...
Cowology wrote:Hell, I still have a man-crush on KLove. I know he's been injured, but something about Love/Drummond just makes me giddy. He wants out of Minny, we can offer some cap-relief and a young, replacement big.
... I agree with Cow that we'd have to look long and hard if Love was really available, because in my opinion, he's a $1.25 player to Moose's $1.00. He's a true #1 offensive option and could form the best front court in the NBA with Drummond ... IF HEALTHY, which is a big if. However, if he is healthy and actually wants out of Minny, he's pretty much the only guy I'd trade Moose for; not only is he not "lesser parts," he's actually a greater one.
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What about something crazy like:
Moose to Charlotte for:
-Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
-our 2014 #1 returned
-option in 2014, 2016 AND 2018 to trade our #1 for their #1, unprotected
Moose to Charlotte for:
-Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
-our 2014 #1 returned
-option in 2014, 2016 AND 2018 to trade our #1 for their #1, unprotected