Official Offseason Discussion

[Verballer]

Simple as that.It can be exactly what you want or a nightmare for you personally.Will VDN comeback?
Will Paul resign etc.


BTW sorry for posting a lot of threads,but I'm bored and enjoy talking to you guys about the clippers

[mttwlsn16]

chris paul signs his max deal w us

vdn is gone-but i dont like how much its dragging out right now. figured hed be fired already

barnes re-signs

billups re-signs as backup PG

LO re-signs on a MUCH smaller deal

bledsoe/butler packaged for a real starting 2 guard

dj stays

and we HAVE to find a reliable big who can step back and shoot, and capable of making FTs

[Neddy]

VDN successfully gets DTS off without viagra, retains his job with a clause in his contract for weekly visit with a fresh mint breathe to the owner's office

CP3 reluctantly resigns but not all too happy

Willie's option picked up, becomes a full time starter

Caron returns as barnes bolts for greener pasture and we couldn't find a deal to trade him away

blake gets better with his overall game, but gets injured often

DJ breaks all time record as the worst free throw shooting starter in NBA history

Jamal is our second best scorer once blake is hurt

chauncey and lamar are brought back in half of MLE exception each, bigshot is hurt during training camp, out for season. lamar reports to the camp pregnant with chloe's twins. out for season for maternity leave.

hollins retires from NBA to focus on his restaurant business, becomes the business man of the year and makes to the cover of forbes by janunary of 2014 issue.

VDN contracts herpes.

[mttwlsn16]

maternity leave

[Quake Griffin]

not much.

DJ will still be here.
Caron will still be here.
and we'll get caught with our pants down needing to move bledsoe at the deadline.

CP will re-sign
and we'll make a decent coaching hire.

surprise me gary.

[Neddy]

how many days has it been since gary sacks' statement of 1 week evaluation period? vinny has met with DTS already, and no announcements yet.

vinny is staying. that's why CP3 came out and said he prefers african american coach, "wink wink" reference to byron scott.

[mttwlsn16]

i still hold out hope he will be gone, but the longer he is kept, the more i think he will be brought back. not good

[mttwlsn16]

via hoopsrumors

Vinny Del Negro's dismissal from the Clippers seems rather likely at this point.

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2013/05/week ... 51213.html

also says:

The Clippers are publicly confident that Chris Paul will return next season.

[azncorruptedo17]

cp3 and bg go on brocursions to light their bromance. we get sloan as a coach, stockton/malone 2.0.

'ship next season.

[scoobs07]

1. On draft day, trade DJ and 25th pick to Phoenix for Gortat and Frye

2. Max out CP

3. Hire Stan Van Gundy as coach

4. Trade Bled and Hill for Mayo (4years/28million)

5. Sign Barnes for 3years/10million

6. Sign Billups for 1year/1.3million

7. Sign Anthony Toliver for 1year/1.3million

8. Sign Johan Petro for 1year/1.3million

[og15]

You just went all out with that first trade, basically trading DJ for Gortat and the 25th pick for Frye, lol, yea, I think that might require some black mailing of Phoenix's GM or something.

[scoobs07]

Frye is questionable though. He might not even come back from his heart issues, and if he does he probably wont even be the same player. Gortat was disgruntled last season. I don't think it would be a stretch if Phoenix wanted to dump the 3years/19.2million of Frye's contract. They would get DJ, who is owed 3years/33 million, but he brings the aspect of excitement and putting fans in the seats, plus they would get the draft pick.

[og15]

You counted this year .

Frye actually has 2 years / $13.2M left and is an expiring $6.8M his last season, really not an issue for a team with low salary anyways and who has their C at a bargain. Lets say Washington want to spread the floor around Wall and Nene and say we'll give you expiring Vesely (option for 14-15 not yet picked up) and Booker (becoming a FA) for Frye and your 2nd round pick, or just Frye. Lets say D'Antoni feels he really needs that stretch 4 and Lakers say hey, we'll give you Duhon(expiring) and Jodie Meeks (expiring) for Frye (contracts are within 120%). If you're Phoenix, don't you take those then trade Gortat for a better haul than a more expensive lesser player

DJ has about 2 years / $23M left. Frye doesn't make enough to warrant giving up assets to dump him. They make this trade if they WANT DJ, not if they want to get rid of Frye. Does Phoenix want DJ?

Winning or guys like Blake Griffin puts fans in seats, DeAndre Jordan does not put fans in seats. If it was the other way around, you think someone could sell you on that same premise.

[pageC4]

You counted this year .

Frye actually has 2 years / $13.2M left and is an expiring $6.8M his last season, really not an issue for a team with low salary anyways and who has their C at a bargain. Lets say Washington want to spread the floor around Wall and Nene and say we'll give you expiring Vesely (option for 14-15 not yet picked up) and Booker (becoming a FA) for Frye and your 2nd round pick, or just Frye. Lets say D'Antoni feels he really needs that stretch 4 and Lakers say hey, we'll give you Duhon(expiring) and Jodie Meeks (expiring) for Frye (contracts are within 120%). If you're Phoenix, don't you take those then trade Gortat for a better haul than a more expensive lesser player

DJ has about 2 years / $23M left. Frye doesn't make enough to warrant giving up assets to dump him. They make this trade if they WANT DJ, not if they want to get rid of Frye. Does Phoenix want DJ?

Winning or guys like Blake Griffin puts fans in seats, DeAndre Jordan does not put fans in seats. If it was the other way around, you think someone could sell you on that same premise.

wow Fryes salary is low

[ejftw]

Did a few others, but one more for **** and giggles:

Three Team Trade:
Clippers Out: DeAndre Jordan,
Clippers In: Marcin Gortat, Luis Scola, #39 (Via Portland), #57 (Via Phoenix)

Clippers upgrade their front court, greatly. I think Gortat would be a good fit next to Blake and Scola is a good vet to have off the bench.

Suns Out: Marcin Gortat, Luis Scola, #30, #57
Suns In: Joel Freeland, #10 (Via Portland)

Suns get two lottery picks in hopes for their rebuild. Have to take on the contract of Freeland, however.

Blazers Out: Joel Freeland, #10, #39
Blazers In: DeAndre Jordan

Blazers go for a center they may think will fit well with Aldridge and dump the contract of Freeland.

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Clippers Out | Pacers In: Grant Hill, #30
Pacers Out | Clippers In: Gerald Green, #23

Clippers move up seven spots in the draft while taking on a 2/7 mil contract for an athletic wing. Pacers move down 7 spots to dump Green's contract. Assuming Hill is to retire.

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Clippers Out | Wizards In: Caron Butler
Wizards Out | Clippers In: Trevor Ariza

A speculated deal around the deadline nixed by the Clips. Hope the Wizards are still interested.

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Clippers Out | Kings In: Eric Bledsoe, #25, 2014 Clippers 2nd Round Selection
Kings Out | Clippers In: #6, #36

Clippers save themselves from overpaying Bledsoe. Kings get a young point guard.

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Draft Night with picks #6, #23, #36, #39, #57

After having stockpiled picks, Clippers use them for the following guys:
#6 Shabazz Muhammad (Disappointing season at UCLA, but I still believe Bazz can end up being one of the premier scorers in the pros, though not doing much else. I'd love it if Otto Porter fell to #6, but no way he does and I believe it is too high for Carter-Williams or Olynk. Oladipo would need consideration as well.)

#23 Lucas Nogueira (No secret on these forums that I think Lucas can end up being a solid guy. Drawing comparisons to Dalembert, the young guy is just over 6'11 in shoes, but has a 7'4+ wing span and averages 3.4 rebounds and 1.1 blocks in 13 minutes in the ACB. I'd let him stay over one year before bringing him, or let him spend time with our D-League affiliate while calling him up to learn from Gortat/Scola/Biff and CP.)

#36 James Ennis (Local kid from Long Beach State. Though I'm a CSUN fan, Ennis is a real talent and I think could be a very late steal. Solid defender and all around game with athleticism to boot. 16.5/6.7/2.1 with 1.8 steal/1.3 blocks on 49.1/35.7/83.4 shooting for LBSU. He dropped 18/8 with 4 blocks on 8-16 against North Carolina, 17/7 on 6-12 vs Arizona, 20/6/4 on 7-15 against UCLA. Did struggle against 'Cuse & Ohio State with a combined 22/9 on 8-29 however. Had two solid games as a Junior. 19/4/6 with 5 steals on 6-10 against #9 Pitt and 16/4/2 with 6 steals on 5-7 against #13 Kansas. All were road games and that is just a taste of what he did against ranked sides.)

#39 Isaiah Canaan (Another guy that I'm a fan of, with no secret. Canaan is a solid scoring backup point that plays decent D. Would be a great 5-15 minute backup to Paul and learn a lot from him.)

#57 Augusto Lima (Fellow Brazilian to Lucas, Lima is taken for his rights and hopes he can gain some value.)

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Free Agency:

James Singleton for the league's minimum contract. Definitely some nostalgia with this pick, but Jumpin James played solid for the Wizards last season, averaging 8/7 in 22 minutes. Can run at the 3 and the 4, and will not complain about playing time. Great vet to have.

Chauncey Billups to a 1 year/2.5 million deal. Billups will be the backup to Chris Paul and another good mentor for Canaan

Zaza Pachulia to the full MLE for two seasons with a player option for year 3. Clippers need a backup to Gortt so why not go Zaza? Good shot, and isn't afraid to get in your face when needed.

Ryan Hollins for a one year minimum. Just bring back Ryan.

Final Roster:
PG: Chris Paul | Chauncey Billups | Isaiah Canaan
SG: Willie Green | Jamal Crawford | James Ennis
SF: Trevor Ariza | Shabazz Muhammad | James Singleton
PF: Blake Griffin | Luis Scola
CE: Marcin Gortat | Zaza Pachulia | Ryan Hollins

Love that team, but might need some more D in the starting unit, though I like Gortat next to Blake. Lots of youth as well with Ennis, Bazz, Isaiah and the Brazilian duo.

[Jaykoolzboy]

1. Sign CP3 to max deal
2. Trade Caron Butler (exp next year) + Eric Bledsoe, DeAndre Jordan for Kevin Garnet and Paul Pierce
3. Fire VDN and hire Jerry Sloan
4. Sign Chauncy to league minimum
5. Sign Lamar Odom 2 years/7 million
6. Sign Matt Barnes 3 years/9 million
7. Trade Blake Griffin + draft picks to Lakers for re-signed Dwight Howard
8. Sign Stephen Jackson for League minimum
9. Re-sign Turiaf to minimum or another backup big man like Chris Anderson

CP3/Chauncy
Jackson/Jamal
Pierce/Barnes
KG/Odom
Dwight/Turiaf/Rookie

[Neddy]

2. Trade Caron Butler (exp next year) + Eric Bledsoe, DeAndre Jordan for Kevin Garnet and Paul Pierce

forget the rest of the signings, which pushes our salary into stratosphere, but this deal above alone, financially does not work. all things stop right here at #2.

[mttwlsn16]

7. Trade Blake Griffin + draft picks to Lakers for re-signed Dwight Howard

Gtfo w that crap

[Neddy]

7. Trade Blake Griffin + draft picks to Lakers for re-signed Dwight Howard

Gtfo w that crap

lol i was trying my best to be polite with that post, and here you are

besides the fact that nobody in clippernation wishes to trade younger, healthier, higher ceiling player in blake for malcontent dwight, the proposal shoots our salary past 80 million with just the players and deals he proposed will never get past DTS tells you this is very far from reality and in the realm of fiction at best.

[azncorruptedo17]

1. Sign CP3 to max deal
2. Trade Caron Butler (exp next year) + Eric Bledsoe, DeAndre Jordan for Kevin Garnet and Paul Pierce
3. Fire VDN and hire Jerry Sloan
4. Sign Chauncy to league minimum
5. Sign Lamar Odom 2 years/7 million
6. Sign Matt Barnes 3 years/9 million
7. Trade Blake Griffin + draft picks to Lakers for re-signed Dwight Howard
8. Sign Stephen Jackson for League minimum
9. Re-sign Turiaf to minimum or another backup big man like Chris Anderson

CP3/Chauncy
Jackson/Jamal
Pierce/Barnes
KG/Odom
Dwight/Turiaf/Rookie