Can we stop with the Rondo talk?

Maker_84 · Post #1 » by **Maker_84** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:23 am

He's an undersized PG that cant shoot and wouldn't help this team, more like hurt the team because there would be NO scorers. Knight is bigger, more athletic, better defender, and shoots better. I'd much rather have him

JD43320 · Post #2 » by **JD43320** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:27 am

Pretty much every word in that post is going to lead to more talk about Rondo. Saying you'd take Knight over Rondo is lunacy. Only way to stop the Rondo talk is to admit that Boston wants more than we are willing to offer in a trade so a deal won't happen. We might have had a shot at Rondo if we still had our 2014 pick but without it we've got nothing to offer.

Maker_84 · Post #3 » by **Maker_84** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:28 am

Im stopping the Rondo talk by saying Brandon Knight is a better fit for this team

Post #4 » by **Cowology** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:29 am

So your solution to ending Rondo talk... is to start a new thread about Rondo? Okie doke, good luck with that.

Post #5 » by **Snakebites** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:30 am

It may or may not be in Ainge's best interests to trade Rondo at some point, but under no circumstances should he accept what Dumars is supposedly offering.

Furthermore I'd argue that he absolutely should NOT trade him now while his value is low. The smart thing to do is give the season a few months to show that Rondo is healthy and capable and THEN see if he can get a better package.

And whatever the opinion on Ainge is in these parts, he's not an idiot. He won't trade him until he's got the right package, and all evidence indicates that we aren't offering it (not that we should).

But hey, its the offseason and the dust has settled on our other moves. I understand why this rumor is getting a lot of play.

Hotmayo · Post #6 » by **Hotmayo** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:52 am

Maker_84 wrote:He's an undersized PG that cant shoot and wouldn't help this team, more like hurt the team because there would be NO scorers. Knight is bigger, more athletic, better defender, and shoots better. I'd much rather have him

So knight is a better defender? more athletic? a better fit bc rondo can't shoot? What?

Did You know that being a pure point guard wins everytime over offensive point guards?

Rondo destroyed heat this year. Celtics won by 19 and rondo barely scored. They won bc he got everyone involved, controlled the tempo, and got under their skin. Him and tony Parker are the best pg's in the game.

Why is this even argued?

ElectricMayhem · Post #7 » by **ElectricMayhem** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:00 am

Maker_84 wrote:He's an undersized PG that cant shoot and wouldn't help this team, more like hurt the team because there would be NO scorers. Knight is bigger, more athletic, better defender, and shoots better. I'd much rather have him

Amen. And while we're at it, I wish people here would shut up about how great Durant is. Jonas Jerebko is taller, doesn't hog the ball as much, and has better hair. I'd much rather have Jerebko in a Pistons uniform.

Post #8 » by **Cowology** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:09 am

Rondo is such a vastly superior player that he'd still be a significant upgrade over Knight regardless of how bad a fit he may be. But said fit doesn't make it worth giving up the assets it would require to actually make the move happen.

Post #9 » by **theBigLip** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:09 am

Cowology wrote:So your solution to ending Rondo talk... is to start a new thread about Rondo? Okie doke, good luck with that.

Lol - you beat me to it. Bottom line, we've made great progress this offseason. If we can develop two young players on rookie contracts to be our starting backcourt (BK & KCP) our future will be much brighter than throwing a bunch of money and locking us in on Rondo. Period.

Maker_84 · Post #10 » by **Maker_84** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:58 am

Hotmayo wrote:
Maker_84 wrote:He's an undersized PG that cant shoot and wouldn't help this team, more like hurt the team because there would be NO scorers. Knight is bigger, more athletic, better defender, and shoots better. I'd much rather have him

So knight is a better defender? more athletic? a better fit bc rondo can't shoot? What?

Did You know that being a pure point guard wins everytime over offensive point guards?

Rondo destroyed heat this year. Celtics won by 19 and rondo barely scored. They won bc he got everyone involved, controlled the tempo, and got under their skin. Him and tony Parker are the best pg's in the game.

Why is this even argued?

Considering the fact that the Celtics aren't the Pistons and setting up All Star players like Garnett, Pierce, Green, Allen for years and you can afford to have a pg focus solely on just being a passer but the Pistons don't have that kind of offensive firepower or i'd be more open to it but our PG has to be a more shoot first pg because there just aren't many shooters/scorers on this team

DetroitDon15 · Post #11 » by **DetroitDon15** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:20 am

Im shocked by reading Knight is better than Rondo. Knight was one of the worse assist to turnover guys last year. He looks more like an undersized two than a one. Knight probably will never be the play maker Rondo is. Knight looks to get his shot too much. I'd trade Knight or Monroe for Rondo in a hearbeat but not both or Drummond. Look what a good PG can do for a team. Lillard in Portland and Paul with the Clipps. Joe D is probably better amnesiting DNP-CV and take on salary because the team trading out the salary creates an instant luxury reduction or TPE. This deal wont happen and i'd be shocked if it did.

Maker_84 · Post #12 » by **Maker_84** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:24 am

Rondo has had an all star cast to pass the ball around to his entire career, i'd like to see what Brandon could do with similar offensive talent around him

Post #13 » by **Snakebites** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:45 am

^Not nearly as much, I'm sure.

Q00 · Post #14 » by **Q00** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:45 am

Can we stop with the Rondo can't shoot talk?

Knight shot 35% on jumpshots last year. Rondo shot 40%. Not only does Rondo do everything else better than Knight, he also apparently is a better jumpshooter too.

kurtis48239 · Post #15 » by **kurtis48239** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:48 am

Maker ,I have to give it to you,for a celtic fan to have the forthought to make another account so you could troll the det boards as a det fan, because you knew rumors would start up about det wanting rondo is genious.I bow down to your expert trolling skills,you are the master.The only down fall you had that I caught onto was going a little heavy on the knight praises. SMILEY FACE..........Just busting your balls

princeofpalace · Post #16 » by **princeofpalace** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:25 am

Detroits interest in Rondo was probably on the level of their interest in Gay. They made a call to BOS offering expiring contracts + Knight, Boston asked for Drummond and Joe hung up and moved on.

If we can get these guys for cheap then go for it but the odds are slim to none that either Monroe/Drummond gets moved.

DBC10 · Post #17 » by **DBC10** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:37 pm

Q00 wrote:Can we stop with the Rondo can't shoot talk?

Knight shot 35% on jumpshots last year. Rondo shot 40%. Not only does Rondo do everything else better than Knight, he also apparently is a better jumpshooter too.

He can't shoot free throws, can't shoot 3s and can't shoot 3-15 ft. That's what people mean when they say he can't shoot. Yeah, his eFg% is good but defenders usually let him shoot without much contest.
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Shooter1 · Post #18 » by **Shooter1** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:19 pm

Maker_84 wrote:He's an undersized PG that cant shoot and wouldn't help this team, more like hurt the team because there would be NO scorers. Knight is bigger, more athletic, better defender, and shoots better. I'd much rather have him

Not sure about your BB IQ bur Rondo is a top 5 PG. While I think it is to early to give up on one of the youngest PG when drafted, I would trade Knight for Rondo in a second. Problem is the only way we get Rondo is by trading Drummond. The only thing that has not been proposed is Knight and Monroe + expiring for Rondo and Crash. Ainge may find getting rid of a bad contract worth trading Rondo.

Rondo/Billups
Pope/Stuckey
Crash/Singler
J Smove/JJ
Drummond/Krestokov

Mikez1919 · Post #19 » by **Mikez1919** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:23 pm

Cowology wrote:Rondo is such a vastly superior player that he'd still be a significant upgrade over Knight regardless of how bad a fit he may be. But said fit doesn't make it worth giving up the assets it would require to actually make the move happen.

Hotmayo · Post #20 » by **Hotmayo** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:33 pm

Maker_84 wrote:
Hotmayo wrote:
Maker_84 wrote:He's an undersized PG that cant shoot and wouldn't help this team, more like hurt the team because there would be NO scorers. Knight is bigger, more athletic, better defender, and shoots better. I'd much rather have him

So knight is a better defender? more athletic? a better fit bc rondo can't shoot? What?

Did You know that being a pure point guard wins everytime over offensive point guards?

Rondo destroyed heat this year. Celtics won by 19 and rondo barely scored. They won bc he got everyone involved, controlled the tempo, and got under their skin. Him and tony Parker are the best pg's in the game.

Why is this even argued?

Considering the fact that the Celtics aren't the Pistons and setting up All Star players like Garnett, Pierce, Green, Allen for years and you can afford to have a pg focus solely on just being a passer but the Pistons don't have that kind of offensive firepower or i'd be more open to it but our PG has to be a more shoot first pg because there just aren't many shooters/scorers on this team

The Boston celtics could barely get 75 points in the playoffs. He gets everyone involved. And they didn't have ray Allen last year.

You have no idea what your talking

Rondo would get players to score on this team

Bc that's what true point guard can do

Have you ever watched rondo?