NBA to crack down on verticality rule

MoneyMo · Post #1 » by **MoneyMo** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:54 pm

http://www.nba.com/media/Verticality_Pl ... 1_2014.pdf

This will be interesting.

Buggin Out · Post #2 » by **Buggin Out** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:59 pm

MoneyMo wrote:http://www.nba.com/media/Verticality_Plays_Mar_31_2014.pdf

This will be interesting.

Mik317 · Post #3 » by **Mik317** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:59 pm

R.I.P to Roy Hibbert's career

_Game7_ · Post #4 » by **_Game7_** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 12:03 am

Bout dam time- Lebron

Chessboxer · Post #5 » by **Chessboxer** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 12:05 am

Buggin Out wrote:
MoneyMo wrote:http://www.nba.com/media/Verticality_Plays_Mar_31_2014.pdf

This will be interesting.

MitchellUK · Post #6 » by **MitchellUK** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 12:10 am

I guess I'll be in the minority, but this is absurd. Defenders are already limited in what they can do - staying in their cylinder, arms straight up - and now they can't turn their bodies in the general direction of the shot they are challenging. Unless they are wantonly hip-checking the guy who is driving, why shouldn't they be able to follow the ball, provided their upward motion remains vertical and they don't move across a horizontal or forward-back plane?

But no, the NBA wants all the baskets and none of the defense.

DarkXaero · Post #7 » by **DarkXaero** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 12:28 am

I was excited after reading the thread title, but after reading the document, I'm not sure if this is so great. They didn't even use an example of Roy Hibbert.

Inevitable · Post #8 » by **Inevitable** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 12:29 am

Stupid. They are changing the way they ref more than halfway through the year.

sp6r=underrated · Post #9 » by **sp6r=underrated** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 12:33 am

MitchellUK wrote:I guess I'll be in the minority, but this is absurd. Defenders are already limited in what they can do - staying in their cylinder, arms straight up - and now they can't turn their bodies in the general direction of the shot they are challenging. Unless they are wantonly hip-checking the guy who is driving, why shouldn't they be able to follow the ball, provided their upward motion remains vertical and they don't move across a horizontal or forward-back plane?

But no, the NBA wants all the baskets and none of the defense.

I would be okay on stricter interpretations of versatility if it comes with a crackdown on moving screens and offensive fouls when the offensive player is just blatantly trying to initiate contact (James Harden). We know the later isn't happening so I'm opposed to a crackdown on versatility.

aal04 · Post #10 » by **aal04** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 12:59 am

WoW.

LBJ is easily the most powerful player in the nba.

Sleeves GONNNNEEEE
Verticallity GONNNNEEEE

Spurs going to get a no Big guy on court rule next.

Massamba · Post #11 » by **Massamba** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 1:10 am

MitchellUK · Post #12 » by **MitchellUK** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 1:45 am

sp6r=underrated wrote:
MitchellUK wrote:I guess I'll be in the minority, but this is absurd. Defenders are already limited in what they can do - staying in their cylinder, arms straight up - and now they can't turn their bodies in the general direction of the shot they are challenging. Unless they are wantonly hip-checking the guy who is driving, why shouldn't they be able to follow the ball, provided their upward motion remains vertical and they don't move across a horizontal or forward-back plane?

But no, the NBA wants all the baskets and none of the defense.

I would be okay on stricter interpretations of versatility if it comes with a crackdown on moving screens and offensive fouls when the offensive player is just blatantly trying to initiate contact (James Harden). We know the later isn't happening so I'm opposed to a crackdown on versatility.

I'm ok with a crackdown on verticality if it's a crackdown on verticality. That, to me, would be refs paying closer attention when judging whether a player did jump straight up/keep their arms vertical, etc. This has little to do with verticality, because a player going straight up can still be called for a foul if they turn their body a little. It's ridiculous, and it's designed to reward players who jump into defenders while retaining the illusion of the defender having an opportunity to make a play.

I agree with your other comments, though. Watching James Harden and co. barrel into a defender who is backpedaling and has literally nowhere to go (other than to step aside and allow a layup or dunk) and get the whistle is not good basketball to watch, and they should be looking at stuff like that. For me, rather than calling offensive fouls there, there needs to be more no-calls.

washderice · Post #13 » by **washderice** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 1:49 am

they dont need to "crack down" on it, the rule is fine, just in cases like hibbert the bend the heck out of the rule, at least half the times i see hibbert not get called it should be an easy foul call.

mademan · Post #14 » by **mademan** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 1:53 am

If you beat the offensive player to the spot, the defender has the right to that airspace. I don't watch many IND games, but the games against the Heat, he rotates late, locks his upper body into place and jumps horizontally.

42uptop · Post #15 » by **42uptop** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 1:55 am

The NBA should crack down on offensive players who just put their head down and run into oncoming defenders and somehow get a blocking foul. At least give the shotblockers a chance here

Luigi · Post #16 » by **Luigi** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 1:55 am

This is not the right time to make any rule changes. Let the playoffs end, then change it.

heatwillbeback · Post #17 » by **heatwillbeback** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 1:59 am

Jumping sideways isn't going straight up, so this is calling it properly rather than a crackdown on anything.

Will it be called correctly though? I doubt it. Just like stars offensive players get away with more on offense, guys and teams known for defense will get more leeway on that end of the court.

AttitudeAjusta · Post #18 » by **AttitudeAjusta** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 2:02 am

aal04 wrote:WoW.

LBJ is easily the most powerful player in the nba.

Sleeves GONNNNEEEE
Verticallity GONNNNEEEE

Lol

Novocaine · Post #19 » by **Novocaine** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 2:04 am

Have most of you actually read the document and watched the videos? There's no rule change.

The league has decided to publish the memos to officials, coaches, and teams about particular points of emphasis in officiating.

The league has published recent memos to officials and teams about particular points of emphasis in officiating.

http://www.nba.com/official/

There are more issues addressed than verticality. And they included videos with examples of good and missed calls.

Luigi · Post #20 » by **Luigi** » Tue Apr 1, 2014 2:07 am

Impacien wrote:Have been actually read the document and watched the videos? There's no rule change.

The league has decided to publish the memos to officials, coaches, and teams about particular points of emphasis in officiating.

The league has published recent memos to officials and teams about particular points of emphasis in officiating.

http://www.nba.com/official/

There are more issues addressed than verticality. And they included videos with examples of good and missed calls.

There may not be a formal rule change, but this is a change in enforcement. Telling refs what to look at more closely will affect the way they make the calls. In practice, that's just as good.