Who would trade for David Lee?

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Who would trade for David Lee? 

Post#1 » by giberish » Wed Apr 2, 2014 5:50 am

I first posted this late in another thread, but I thought it could see a wider audience.

Who would trade for David Lee??

While I expect that he stays with the Warriors due to the GS front office liking him more than any other team, a significant offseason change for the Warriors likely would involve trading Lee. So what teams would have any interest, and give some semblance of value for him. There is at least a lot of talk of trading Lee, but there seem to be few if any teams interested in dealing for him.

IMO The most plausible scenarios for a Lee trade would be either: GS gets a replacement starting PF with a Barnes trade (Thad Young certainly seems available, Milsap possibly, maybe others) - then looks to refurbish their bench with a Lee trade (an offense-creating wing and a reserve C/PF the main needs) or else GS trades Lee + extras (Barnes and/or Klay) for a star PF - but that team wants more of a rebuilding package. Still, for this thread, I'm mostly interested in what teams would value Lee and give up anything useful rather than hunt for an exact fit.


From my first impression I'd say these teams may consider it:

Sacramento: not a good defensive fit with DMC, but known to like him and don't have a solid starting PF. Would have to move 2 of Williams/Thompson/Landry for salary clearance, which isn't great value but a Williams/Thompson package could be interesting.

Denver: Looking for a classic starting PF - apparently they don't feel Faried is that guy. I'm sure they'd insist on moving Hickson, which really hurts value, but might offer a good player as well (Faried, Chandler, Gallo?).

Milwaulkee: Not really sure which way their going, and need long-term guard upgrades mostly, but may have interest.

NYK: Lee's a clear upgrade on their current PF options, so if they're looking to win next year they could have interest. If they care more about 2015 cap space then obviously not.

Minny: Quite frankly in a Love trade that isn't a massive tear down and long-term rebuild, they'd probably prefer getting a solid starting PF back rather than what a 3rd team would offer.

Anyone else??
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Re: Who would trade for David Lee? 

Post#2 » by Hedda Gambler » Wed Apr 2, 2014 7:32 am

If the Jazz draft a 3 with their first pick this year, they could use Lee and have a front court rotation of Favors, Kanter, Lee and Gobert. I don`t see them giving up any of their young players though, and cap space really does not do much for you at the moment.
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Re: Who would trade for David Lee? 

Post#3 » by giberish » Wed Apr 2, 2014 8:05 am

Hedda Gambler wrote:If the Jazz draft a 3 with their first pick this year, they could use Lee and have a front court rotation of Favors, Kanter, Lee and Gobert. I don`t see them giving up any of their young players though, and cap space really does not do much for you at the moment.


While cap space wouldn't be directly useful to GS, they could potentially make it work in a multi-team deal taking back some other mediocre contracts to fill need(s) - or if GS is trying to trade for a star and that team prefers nothing/immediate cap/tax relief to Lee. I'd consider nothing to be more or less the baseline here - if a deal is worse than getting nothing back for Lee then it's probably not worthwhile for GS.

I don't really see Utah as a market though. Why let Milsap walk to bring in Lee? (though you could argue it was important to have a top pick this year, they're probably building young and only giving out big money for resigning young players).
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Re: Who would trade for David Lee? 

Post#4 » by Hedda Gambler » Wed Apr 2, 2014 8:20 am

giberish wrote:I don't really see Utah as a market though. Why let Milsap walk to bring in Lee? (though you could argue it was important to have a top pick this year, they're probably building young and only giving out big money for resigning young players).


Yeah, it was all about the draft pick, even though we offered Millsap a three year deal with more money than he`s got now at the beginning of last season. Next year will be all about bringing positivity back to the team. Wiggings/Jabari (yeah, I know we need some major luck in the lottery) with Burke, Hayward, Burks, Favors, Kanter would be very exciting, and a player like Lee could be a real difference maker in the short term. He`s on a big contract, but it expires before both Burke and this years rookies are up for extentsions.
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Re: Who would trade for David Lee? 

Post#5 » by Laimbeer » Wed Apr 2, 2014 10:15 am

(Insert obligatory offer of Josh Smith here)
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
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2) He can be traded later
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5) It's only __ years
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Re: Who would trade for David Lee? 

Post#6 » by rugbyrugger23 » Wed Apr 2, 2014 12:36 pm

Love + Martin + Barea to GSW
-GSW wins Love sweepstakes, also get Martin to replace Thompson, and vet Barea at backup PG.

Lee + #13 to Bucks
-Bucks get 2nd lottery pick and ironically Lee, despite his flaws, might be best player on weak roster. He fits great with Sanders and his large contract expires with Mayo, ZP, Delfino, and possibly Ily (team option).

Thompson + Barnes + Henson + #31 + Large TPE to Wolves
-I think GSW presents the best Love trade, but I don't want Lee on Wolves rebuild roster...enter Bucks. Thompson is about perfect SG next to Rubio, Barnes could develop into Iggy-lite D SF, and Henson is a rim protecting PF with upside.
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Re: Who would trade for David Lee? 

Post#7 » by old rem » Wed Apr 2, 2014 2:13 pm

Lee for Josh Smith won't fix Detroit's problem of too much at PF + C...too little elsewhere.

Any Love deal would need Love signed...which is up to Love...then is Max $. I'm pretty sure the Warriors object to Klay in the deal, won't want K Martin.

Lee has more value to a competitive team than any lotto team...which likely wants younger/cheaper.

For GSW...Lee is the big man who can regularly score inside...plus rebound. They won't want to flip him for a poor rebounder or some 10 ppg guy. The problem though is that there's currently a good supply of good PF's around and most teams in "win now" mode..have one. GSW is in no position to add a pick or take on salary... which is another factor.
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Re: Who would trade for David Lee? 

Post#8 » by blind prophet » Wed Apr 2, 2014 2:26 pm

The Kings could be interested if a third team was involved or a fourth, with Carl Landry and Jason Thompson on the way out, Williams at another teams leisure if they wanted him.

This saves the Kings a year of contract commitment, so to take on Lee's salary by getting rid of both of them would be some incentive.

Kings also have Expiring of Jason Terry, Reggie Evans, Outlaw, to include if needed.

Kings could include the draft pick this year, and trade back a little. But we would still want a pick not much worse than our own. Assuming the Kings draft 8th or so, find us a pick in the 13-15 range.
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Re: Who would trade for David Lee? 

Post#9 » by blind prophet » Wed Apr 2, 2014 2:51 pm

blind prophet wrote:The Kings could be interested if a third team was involved or a fourth, with Carl Landry and Jason Thompson on the way out, Williams at another teams leisure if they wanted him.

This saves the Kings a year of contract commitment, so to take on Lee's salary by getting rid of both of them would be some incentive.

Kings also have Expiring of Jason Terry, Reggie Evans, Outlaw, to include if needed.

Kings could include the draft pick this year, and trade back a little. But we would still want a pick not much worse than our own. Assuming the Kings draft 8th or so, find us a pick in the 13-15 range.


Warriors trade David Lee
Receive Jason Thompson, Derrick Williams

Wolves trade Rubio + 1st round pick
Receive Kings 1st round, Carl Landry

Kings trade Carl Landry, Jason Thompson, 1st round pick
Receive Minnesota 1st round, Lee, Rubio
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Re: Who would trade for David Lee? 

Post#10 » by blind prophet » Wed Apr 2, 2014 2:56 pm

That trade needs some work, does not work in trade checker but a general idea
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Re: Who would trade for David Lee? 

Post#11 » by slicedbread2 » Wed Apr 2, 2014 3:29 pm

blind prophet wrote:
blind prophet wrote:The Kings could be interested if a third team was involved or a fourth, with Carl Landry and Jason Thompson on the way out, Williams at another teams leisure if they wanted him.

This saves the Kings a year of contract commitment, so to take on Lee's salary by getting rid of both of them would be some incentive.

Kings also have Expiring of Jason Terry, Reggie Evans, Outlaw, to include if needed.

Kings could include the draft pick this year, and trade back a little. But we would still want a pick not much worse than our own. Assuming the Kings draft 8th or so, find us a pick in the 13-15 range.


Warriors trade David Lee
Receive Jason Thompson, Derrick Williams

Wolves trade Rubio + 1st round pick
Receive Kings 1st round, Carl Landry

Kings trade Carl Landry, Jason Thompson, 1st round pick
Receive Minnesota 1st round, Lee, Rubio


I don' think Minnesota would give up Rubio yet. I mean it would be a tough sell to the fan base who's already sweating profusely at the thought of Love leaving which is sadly becoming a reality. I'd modify it like this instead:

Golden State: Jason Thompson, Derrick Williams
Sacramento: David Lee, Chase Budinger. Alexey Shved, 13th pick
Minnesota: Carl Landry, Travis Outlaw, 8th pick

I can't really see the Warriors significantly downgrade their low post scoring in Lee for a guy in Thompson who has failed to live up to his deal so far and a tweener in Williams even though this would give them some cap relief. If the splash brothers aren't clicking, they lose their go to guy in the low post in Lee who doesn't need plays to be run for him and gets double-doubles despite being at best an average to below-average defender.

For the Kings, they get an upgrade at the 4 while getting some solid bench players in Shved who's an expiring and Chase who expires at the same time as Lee. They slide down but getting upgrades in the starting unit and the bench not to mention cleaning the gut of 4's on the team helps.

For Minnesota, the pick could be great if used on the right player even though Love is out the door and the pick could be a part of the rebuilding process despite having to eat Landry's deal.
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Re: Who would trade for David Lee? 

Post#12 » by jayjaysee » Wed Apr 2, 2014 6:08 pm

Kings - Thompson, Landry, Terry, 7th
Kings - Lee, 12th

Magic - 12th, Afflalo
Magic - 7th, Terry, Landry

Warriors - Lee
Warriors - Thompson and Afflalo

Barnes for young PF follow up trade.. Thompson is a more-than-competent back up big and Afflalo can definitely create his own..

Or..

Kings - Thompson, Landry, Outlaw, 7th
Kings - Lee, 11th

Sixers - 11th, Thad
Sixers - 7th, Outlaw, Landry or Thompson (should go to a fourth team for a shorter but much worse player - Novak but being lazy..)

Warriors - Lee
Warriors - Thad, Thompson or Landry

Then Barnes can stay..

Or in a very unrealistic super Minn rebuild trade..

Minn - Love, Martin, 41st, 43rd
Minn - 3rd (Wiggins), 7th (Vonleh/Exum), Wallace, Terry, Thompson

Sac - 7th, Thompson, Landry, Terry
Sac - Lee, 17th, 41st, 43rd,

Boston - Wiggins, Wallace, Green
Boston - locked up Love, Thompson

GSW - Lee
GSW - Martin and Green


Guess that's ugly - works better without GSW

Minn- Love, Martin, Brewer, 13th, 43rd
Minn- 3rd, 7th, 17th, Wallace, JT, Terry, Outlaw.

Wiggins, Exum/Vonleh/Harris, and Payne/Hood... A one year rebuild. Dieng/Vonleh/Wiggins/Shabazz/Rubio..

Sac - Thompson, Terry, Outlaw, 7th
Sac - Green, Martin, 13th, 43rd

Trade back to add immediate talent

Bost - Wallace, Wiggins, 17th, Green
Bost - Love and Brewer

But that's off topic...

Lee.. NOP would fit decently in my eyes, would have to be around Evans as Gordon doesn't have enough value and (IMO) Anderson has too much.. And Evans/Curry backcourt might not be ideal as they both should have the ball in their hands to be successful.. But it would only be 15 mpg... Eh.. Would have to be a three way.. Ersan+something to GSW? Or Evans for Thad? GSW just trims 5-6 million? Kind of useless to them, maybe add Richardson if he is considered a positive somehow? Not really sure there..

The Spurs? Lee's contract is only one year too long for their plan and he would be a great fit in the offense. Don't see what they would be willing to give up, but Splitter+30 would have to be the "base" of the deal.. Leonard is too much value... Maybe that's enough value though, I don't think so.. Splitter would probably be best going to a third team as Bogut/Splitter feels problematic.. Splitter+30+small Spurs asset to a third team for a talented wing or forward? Millsap fits but don't know value.. Not sure who fits there.. Spurs could also eat most of Lee's deal with cap space instead of Splitter if GSW had someone in mind that was available for pretty cheap.. Spurs would only need to send out 3-4 million and could still send their first.. 30th overall and cap space might get Jeff Green..








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Re: Who would trade for David Lee? 

Post#13 » by lakerhater » Wed Apr 2, 2014 8:14 pm

blind prophet wrote:
blind prophet wrote:The Kings could be interested if a third team was involved or a fourth, with Carl Landry and Jason Thompson on the way out, Williams at another teams leisure if they wanted him.

This saves the Kings a year of contract commitment, so to take on Lee's salary by getting rid of both of them would be some incentive.

Kings also have Expiring of Jason Terry, Reggie Evans, Outlaw, to include if needed.

Kings could include the draft pick this year, and trade back a little. But we would still want a pick not much worse than our own. Assuming the Kings draft 8th or so, find us a pick in the 13-15 range.


Warriors trade David Lee
Receive Jason Thompson, Derrick Williams

Wolves trade Rubio + 1st round pick
Receive Kings 1st round, Carl Landry

Kings trade Carl Landry, Jason Thompson, 1st round pick
Receive Minnesota 1st round, Lee, Rubio


Don't like it for GSW at all. Unless Barnes is dealt there's really no room for Williams. Thompson is a decent backup player but not an adequate starter. It's a quantity for quality deal where the W's get a backup big and a player they don't need. It's a bad basis for a Sac-GSW deal.

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