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Has Mike Scott regressed?

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Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#1 » by simon24 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 7:15 pm

Last season, Mike Scott was hot off the bench. I remember him showing out in Game 5 against the Pacers in the playoffs, dropping 30 off the bench against the Knicks last season.

This season, however, it seems like with the exception of the Wizards game, Scott has been a shadow of himself last season. I've noticed Antic and Horford even got minutes at PF.

I wonder will this be a concern going forth. His contract is guaranteed next season but I'd hate to see how the Hawks would be if both Millsap and Horford were in foul trouble and have to rely on their bench. Antic is only one person. Thoughts?
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Post#2 » by Hawk Eye » Tue Jan 6, 2015 7:21 pm

He definitely hasnt been shooting the rock well lately. He also seems like he's turning into a chucker and that is definitely not good
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Re: Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#3 » by DirtybirdGA » Tue Jan 6, 2015 7:44 pm

I hope he can take notes from Paul, and go inside more.
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Re: Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#4 » by ATLHawksfan21 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 8:26 pm

My biggest complaint with Scott is it seems like he has abandoned the midrange shot. I'm not sure if that is an adjustment in our offense where he doesn't get the ball in this spot or if he just chooses to avoid it. He was straight money from face up midrange last year and it seems like he only takes 3's or turnaround fade jumpers near the paint this year.

He just isn't good enough on D to be a positive on the floor if his shot isn't falling.

I just looked at his stats for the year and was surprised to see that he is shooting 38.5% from 3 this year vs 31% last year. His overall FG% has fallen from 47.9% to 45.3%.
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Re: Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#5 » by hawkschop1 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 8:32 pm

after such a lackluster performance scott may not get to play tomorrow versus memphis. I expect to see brand and pero logging the reserve minutes against big z-bo gasol and koufos. moving forward im sure mike will snap out of this slump although I must admit theres probably an upgrade out there if we're willing to roll the dice
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Re: Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#6 » by theatlfan » Tue Jan 6, 2015 11:58 pm

I should probably stay off this thread, but...

There is no regression here outside of regression to his mean. Over the 1st 2 weeks of the season, he was 52% from 3, since then, he's been 33%, and that includes a torrid 48% in a 3 week period from late November to mid-December. The fact is that when he's on, he can be a devastating bench player, but when he's off, he's just not an NBA player - an undersized PF without length nor athleticism... nor 'tude.

I also don't see taking more midrange shots as the answer here. Those are the worst shots in basketball and should be avoided unless you are Al Horford-level elite at making them. To his credit, Scott has done well here - both in not taking a whole lot of these shot (less than 1/3 of his shots) and making them when he does (> 50% this year). Still though, the last thing I want is a backup grade player jacking up mid-to-long 2's regardless of his short term accuracy because there's always the regression to the mean factor. You never know when a cold streak brings his efficiency this year from a very good 54% to his number from last year of 39%.

If there's one thing that I think we should see more of out of Scott is cuts to the basket. Scott was pretty good at hanging out at the 3PT line and when the D got tired, he'd find the crease and go full bore into it. He isn't doing that as frequently this year. Not sure if that's in deference to Horford who is playing more or if his shooting streaks makes him think he can hang out on the 3PT line and be a positive player, but he needs to get back to that. Sometimes a shooter needs to pick up some easy to gain some confidence and he hasn't been going to the hole as much as he should... maybe it's because Hill b!tched him in the playoffs - I dunno.

I had a long debate with a few cats on here that this was a horrible contract the minute he signed and I stick to that. For me, he's only behind Jenkins in the "most expendable player on the roster" list. At this point, I think I'd deal a 2nd to get rid of him before FA hits.
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Re: Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#7 » by Rip2137 » Wed Jan 7, 2015 3:39 am

If you have seen Scott play extended minutes in the d league you would have seen how strong his post game is. He is good at getting and holding position and crating separation for his fade away and has the foot work to get bugs in trouble. Bit he is just a jumpshooter on the main team for some reason and has fallen in love with these weird Antwain Jamisonesque floaters around the rim and they are just not consistent shots. I don't know of regresses is the right word. I think he just isn't playing up to his potential right now. If Payne or Muscala replaced him in the rotation, i wouldn't be opposed to it.
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Re: Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#8 » by Skyhawk1 » Wed Jan 7, 2015 4:39 am

If he can post up and play in the paint we do not know cause all he does it jack up 3 pointers and weird/quick floaters. He's a decent player though, he can score some, he's just not good enough for more than 15 min a game. Very inconsistent and one-dimensional, so when he's shot isn't falling, he's useless cause his D is sub par against most 2nd unit guys in this league.
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Re: Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#9 » by Rip2137 » Wed Jan 7, 2015 5:19 am

Defensively he is ONLY good at denying post entry and position...that's just not enough to justify him on the court if he isn't shooting well.
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Re: Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#10 » by ATLHawksfan21 » Wed Jan 7, 2015 10:13 pm

theatlfan wrote:I should probably stay off this thread, but...

There is no regression here outside of regression to his mean. Over the 1st 2 weeks of the season, he was 52% from 3, since then, he's been 33%, and that includes a torrid 48% in a 3 week period from late November to mid-December. The fact is that when he's on, he can be a devastating bench player, but when he's off, he's just not an NBA player - an undersized PF without length nor athleticism... nor 'tude.

I also don't see taking more midrange shots as the answer here. Those are the worst shots in basketball and should be avoided unless you are Al Horford-level elite at making them. To his credit, Scott has done well here - both in not taking a whole lot of these shot (less than 1/3 of his shots) and making them when he does (> 50% this year). Still though, the last thing I want is a backup grade player jacking up mid-to-long 2's regardless of his short term accuracy because there's always the regression to the mean factor. You never know when a cold streak brings his efficiency this year from a very good 54% to his number from last year of 39%.

If there's one thing that I think we should see more of out of Scott is cuts to the basket. Scott was pretty good at hanging out at the 3PT line and when the D got tired, he'd find the crease and go full bore into it. He isn't doing that as frequently this year. Not sure if that's in deference to Horford who is playing more or if his shooting streaks makes him think he can hang out on the 3PT line and be a positive player, but he needs to get back to that. Sometimes a shooter needs to pick up some easy to gain some confidence and he hasn't been going to the hole as much as he should... maybe it's because Hill b!tched him in the playoffs - I dunno.

I had a long debate with a few cats on here that this was a horrible contract the minute he signed and I stick to that. For me, he's only behind Jenkins in the "most expendable player on the roster" list. At this point, I think I'd deal a 2nd to get rid of him before FA hits.


Scott shot 47% from 16ft - 3pt last season and has shot 50% so far this year. Horford shot 49.6% last year and 47.5% this year. While Horford obviously has obviously shot far more of these, I'm not seeing this huge difference that makes it a smart shot for Horford and a bad shot for Scott.

I was cool with the Scott contract because it was a 2 year contract (3rd year is team option) on limited salary. I didn't mind taking a shot on our coaching staff being able to turn him in to a consistent player at a cheap short price. We weren't going to spend that money in another area this past year anyway.So far, it looks like Scott is who he is and I won't mind if he leaves at some point.
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Re: Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#11 » by azuresou1 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 12:56 pm

I don't know what you guys are talking about. Mike Scott's KILLING it for a backup forward. Per 36 stats of 19/6/2, shooting 40% from deep, PER of 14.8, TS% of 57.3% are among the best stats for a backup in the league.

Sure, he doesn't play defense or shoot consistently. If he did, he'd be getting $9M a season and starting for some other team. He'd arguably start for a handful of teams (Charlotte, Miami, Milwaukee, NYK, Philly) as is. For us to bitch about his warts when he's been a key rotational player as we win 20 of 22 is ridiculous.
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Re: Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#12 » by azuresou1 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 1:05 pm

Forgot to mention, he's also an awesome glue guy that everyone on the team loves, and provides great support from the bench.

http://imgur.com/35aAjIb

Plus, we could very well be a Mike Scott hot streak away from winning several big games in the playoffs... dare I say Finals?
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Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#13 » by Hawks champs » Thu Jan 8, 2015 10:05 pm

azuresou1 wrote:Forgot to mention, he's also an awesome glue guy that everyone on the team loves, and provides great support from the bench.

http://imgur.com/35aAjIb

Plus, we could very well be a Mike Scott hot streak away from winning several big games in the playoffs... dare I say Finals?

Yea he is a guy that can take over a game for a few minutes, which could win us some playoff series.
Would also like to point out that the bench was celebrating that korver 3 before it went in, they would have looked like idiots if he had missed.
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Re: Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#14 » by Hawk Eye » Thu Jan 8, 2015 10:53 pm

Haha I've watched that bench celebration vine so many times! It gets better and better each time too
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Post#15 » by Hawk Eye » Fri Jan 9, 2015 12:28 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/joodeeann/status/553051289652035587[/tweet]

Muscala had the best reaction of any of them :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#16 » by azuresou1 » Sun Feb 8, 2015 4:02 am

Wanted to bump this thread after yesterday's win. That is precisely what we signed Mike Scott to do.
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Re: Has Mike Scott regressed? 

Post#17 » by Damon_3388 » Sun Feb 8, 2015 6:22 am

It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

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