JJ Redick 50/40/90 Season?

[Duke4life831]

There are still only 6 guys to have a 50/40/90 season. JJ since December is 50/51/90 while scoring 17 ppg. On the full season he is 49/49/88. He leads all shooting guards in FG% and 3pt%. He also lead all shooting guards last year in FG% with 47.7%. So this is no fluke for him. A couple other notable stats for him, he is 4th in offensive rating out of all starting guards this year, behind only Curry, Klay and Westbrook. He finished 4th as well last year. He is also 7th in defensive rating for guards (All these stats are from NBA.com). Now I know he does not create his own shots, majority of his shots are assisted but still what he is doing is pretty damn impressive and I think is being under looked.

[og15]

The good thing is that while he doesn't create his own shot in the sense of doing it off the dribble, he does create his own shot with movement and quick moves.

50/40/90 is a fun benchmark for players, and as a shooter he would love to get that, but if he maintains in this 48-49% range overall and from 3PT for the whole season, and with good volume (~15 FGA and 7 3PA per 36), that would be very impressive. Last season was already very good at essentially 48/44/90.

[Duke4life831]

The good thing is that while he doesn't create his own shot in the sense of doing it off the dribble, he does create his own shot with movement and quick moves.

50/40/90 is a fun benchmark for players, and as a shooter he would love to get that, but if he maintains in this 48-49% range overall and from 3PT for the whole season, and with good volume (~15 FGA and 7 3PA per 36), that would be very impressive. Last season was already very good at essentially 48/44/90.

Hes definitely Ray Allen/Rip Hamilton-esque with how active he is off the ball. Non stop running off screens, hes been doing that since his Duke days. And ya he has proven to be one of the most efficient shooters in the league. And its not like he is only putting up 10ppg, hes putting up 16-17ppg. Thats really impressive.

[illastrate]

There are still only 6 guys to have a 50/40/90 season. JJ since December is 50/51/90 while scoring 17 ppg. On the full season he is 49/49/88. He leads all shooting guards in FG% and 3pt%. He also lead all shooting guards last year in FG% with 47.7%. So this is no fluke for him. A couple other notable stats for him, he is 4th in offensive rating out of all starting guards this year, behind only Curry, Klay and Westbrook. He finished 4th as well last year. He is also 7th in defensive rating for guards (All these stats are from NBA.com). Now I know he does not create his own shots, majority of his shots are assisted but still what he is doing is pretty damn impressive and I think is being under looked.

I'm glad you brought this up. He's essentially having a 2014-15 Korver type of season and Korver received a lot more attention. Forget 50/40/90, Redick has a shot at 50/50/90 and although he probably won't reach it, just to see he's near that mark as we approach halftime through the season is really impressive.

[Duke4life831]

There are still only 6 guys to have a 50/40/90 season. JJ since December is 50/51/90 while scoring 17 ppg. On the full season he is 49/49/88. He leads all shooting guards in FG% and 3pt%. He also lead all shooting guards last year in FG% with 47.7%. So this is no fluke for him. A couple other notable stats for him, he is 4th in offensive rating out of all starting guards this year, behind only Curry, Klay and Westbrook. He finished 4th as well last year. He is also 7th in defensive rating for guards (All these stats are from NBA.com). Now I know he does not create his own shots, majority of his shots are assisted but still what he is doing is pretty damn impressive and I think is being under looked.

I'm glad you brought this up. He's essentially having a 2014-15 Korver type of season and he received alot more attention. Forget 50/40/90, Redick has a shot at 50/50/90 and although he probably won't reach, just to see he's near that work as we approach halftime through the season is really impressive.

He's arguably having a better season than Korver had. His percentages are just behind Korver pre all star break but JJ scores 4 more points a game and his usage is at 22% compared to Korver's which I believe was 14%. His numbers are just ridiculous right now

[lars_rosenberg]

He's the only player that I like in the Clippers roster.

[QRich3]

Yeah he's having an incredible season, and he's said recently that getting the 50/40/90 season is a personal goal of him. But I just don't think there's much sense in that stat anymore, getting to 50% from the floor for guys who shoot half their shots from the 3PT line is extremely more difficult than it used to be for guys like Larry Bird, who never even got to shoot 20% of his shots from the 3PT line.

Still, what JJ is doing this season is very impressive, he's probably the best offensive player on the Clippers this year, and that's a lot to say with two top 10 players beside him.

[I beg to differ]

Side note, why are we still using FG% rather than 2P% or eFG%? That stat should not exist. And PPP or TS% need to be at the front of box scores. Especially as players take more and more threes these days, it's silly how FG% usually punishes them for that. For instance, too many people used to mistakenly think that Gilbert Arenas was an inefficient scorer.

[celtics543]

That's an impressive season for JJ (or really anyone). He's one guy that I couldn't have been more wrong about when he was drafted. I thought he was going to be an overrated bust, pretty much what Adam Morrison ended up being, but JJ worked his butt off to prove the doubters wrong and he's had, and continues to have, a great career.

[Uncle Mxy]

Yeah, but Adam Morrison has a ring *and* a porn-stache. JJ's always gonna be playing catch-up.

[ALL HAIL]

I'd trade him. Seriously, I would.

They need more from the wing than what he can provide.

I'd trade him now for solid rotational players of need (if there's a deal like that to be made).

[Duke4life831]

I'd trade him. Seriously, I would.

They need more from the wing than what he can provide.

I'd trade him now for solid rotational players of need (if there's a deal like that to be made).

He's scoring 17 ppg since the start of December and has the second highest TS% behind only Curry. He's top 10 in all guards on defensive rating, he maybe just okay as an on ball defender, but a very smart team defender. I'm just curious, how can the most efficient shooting 2 guard in the league putting up 17 ppg not considered a solid rotational player

[Quotatious]

He's so much better than Crawford, I wonder why he only plays slightly more minutes (Redick is averaging 27.4 minutes per game, Crawford 25.2), I guess maybe Redick doesn't have the stamina to play 30+ minutes on a regular basis, there's no other explanation, really...Really, I mean - their only value comes from their scoring, and Redick is shooting 48.5% FG and 48.1% 3P, for 64.3% TS, while Crawford is shooting only 38.4% FG, 31.3% 3P, for 51.2% TS.

[Orin]

He's so much better than Crawford, I wonder why he only plays slightly more minutes (Redick is averaging 27.4 minutes per game, Crawford 25.2), I guess maybe Redick doesn't have the stamina to play 30+ minutes on a regular basis, there's no other explanation, really...Really, I mean - their only value comes from their scoring, and Redick is shooting 48.5% FG and 48.1% 3P, for 64.3% TS, while Crawford is shooting only 38.4% FG, 31.3% 3P, for 51.2% TS.

Doc Rivers playing favorite is the real explanation I think.

[Duke4life831]

A lot of 50/40/90's or extra close this year. Off the top of my head J.J., Curry, Durant and Kawhi could all finish the year there.

Yup all those guys are flirting with it. Those other guys get talked about a lot more (and for right reasons). I just think JJ's season is really going under the radar just like his last season did. He's one of the most efficient scorers in the game but never gets talked about

[Lazy Faizy]

He's the only player that I like in the Clippers roster.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[ALL HAIL]

I'd trade him. Seriously, I would.

They need more from the wing than what he can provide.

I'd trade him now for solid rotational players of need (if there's a deal like that to be made).

He's scoring 17 ppg since the start of December and has the second highest TS% behind only Curry. He's top 10 in all guards on defensive rating, he maybe just okay as an on ball defender, but a very smart team defender. I'm just curious, how can the most efficient shooting 2 guard in the league putting up 17 ppg not considered a solid rotational player

He is beyond a solid rotational player, but he's not what they need.

They need length and some physicality from that position (along with shooting).

Put it this way: A Redick/Crawford platoon, for the Clippers, is worse to me than an Aflalo/Crawford platoon.

[Duke4life831]

I'd trade him. Seriously, I would.

They need more from the wing than what he can provide.

I'd trade him now for solid rotational players of need (if there's a deal like that to be made).

He's scoring 17 ppg since the start of December and has the second highest TS% behind only Curry. He's top 10 in all guards on defensive rating, he maybe just okay as an on ball defender, but a very smart team defender. I'm just curious, how can the most efficient shooting 2 guard in the league putting up 17 ppg not considered a solid rotational player

He is beyond a solid rotational player, but he's not what they need.

They need length and some physicality from that position (along with shooting).

Put it this way: A Redick/Crawford platoon, for the Clippers, is worse to me than an Aflalo/Crawford platoon.

I would not trade JJ for Aflalo. If the Clips should trade someone it should be Crawford. I think JJ fits that starting lineup perfectly

[walk with me]

I'm not a big fan of this statistical achievement. I think if a player WANTED to be a member of this group he could if he tried.

[og15]

I'd trade him. Seriously, I would.

They need more from the wing than what he can provide.

I'd trade him now for solid rotational players of need (if there's a deal like that to be made).

He's scoring 17 ppg since the start of December and has the second highest TS% behind only Curry. He's top 10 in all guards on defensive rating, he maybe just okay as an on ball defender, but a very smart team defender. I'm just curious, how can the most efficient shooting 2 guard in the league putting up 17 ppg not considered a solid rotational player

He is beyond a solid rotational player, but he's not what they need.

They need length and some physicality from that position (along with shooting).

Put it this way: A Redick/Crawford platoon, for the Clippers, is worse to me than an Aflalo/Crawford platoon.

No thanks, Afflalo is not that good, better off trying to get rid of Crawford for someone that can defend, of course that is easier said than done, but even a guy like Henderson.

I'm not a big fan of this statistical achievement. I think if a player WANTED to be a member of this group he could if he tried.

Yup, don't think it is a huge deal. He's shooting 49/49/88 and he's taking 7 3PA/36, so for a team you don't really care if he's at 50% FG because that makes no difference for you. Certainly a good shooter could attempt to force their way into the group by becoming overly selective with their shots, but the impressive thing is when guys just naturally attempt shots and shoot so efficiently.

Side note, why are we still using FG% rather than 2P% or eFG%? That stat should not exist. And PPP or TS% need to be at the front of box scores. Especially as players take more and more threes these days, it's silly how FG% usually punishes them for that. For instance, too many people used to mistakenly think that Gilbert Arenas was an inefficient scorer.

Change is hard for people, that's all there is to it. Yea, overall FG% is not really the most useful stat out there, but when something has been a certain way, people don't want to mess with it, so whatever.