Trade Deadline Countdown....What will we do? What should we do?

[alphagorilla]

Only way I would trade our 2016 pick is if KAT was coming our way.... Love that guy think he has been better than Porzingis this year. Lets face it our team is a disaster and no FA will come near our team and only way out of this slump is drafting well. Guess what that's our GM specialty.

Horny should lead the Tank and replace him this summer. NO SHORTCUTS LIKE BROOK LOPEZ, PLZ

[Christine-In-AZ]

If the Suns said to another random team I will trade you Bledsoe, Knight, Markieff, Tucker, and Chandler combined (the opening night starting lineup) for your top ten pick, I would say absolutely not if I was the other team. I would rather have a top ten pick anywhere in the top ten over all five of those players combined.

Check please!!!

I've been browsing this board for like 8 and a half years, and the above is the most ludicrous opinion I've ever read. There's not a close second I can remember. I'm not even factoring in the weakness of this upcoming draft.

Wow. Just wow.

[letsgosuns]

If the Suns said to another random team I will trade you Bledsoe, Knight, Markieff, Tucker, and Chandler combined (the opening night starting lineup) for your top ten pick, I would say absolutely not if I was the other team. I would rather have a top ten pick anywhere in the top ten over all five of those players combined.

Check please!!!

I've been browsing this board for like 8 and a half years, and the above is the most ludicrous opinion I've ever read. There's not a close second I can remember. I'm not even factoring in the weakness of this upcoming draft.

Wow. Just wow.

Why? The only guy of those five players I like is Chandler but he is too old now to be worth a top ten pick. The other four guys, I cannot express how much I loathe the fact they are on the Suns. I would dump Bledsoe, Knight, Markieff, and Tucker for second round picks if I could. I hate the way they play basketball. Career losers.

Btw, I understand they are worth more than second round picks, but I just want them off the team asap.

[Christine-In-AZ]

If the Suns said to another random team I will trade you Bledsoe, Knight, Markieff, Tucker, and Chandler combined (the opening night starting lineup) for your top ten pick, I would say absolutely not if I was the other team. I would rather have a top ten pick anywhere in the top ten over all five of those players combined.

Check please!!!

I've been browsing this board for like 8 and a half years, and the above is the most ludicrous opinion I've ever read. There's not a close second I can remember. I'm not even factoring in the weakness of this upcoming draft.

Wow. Just wow.

Why? The only guy of those five players I like is Chandler but he is too old now to be worth a top ten pick. The other four guys, I cannot express how much I loathe the fact they are on the Suns. I would dump Bledsoe, Knight, Markieff, and Tucker for second round

...yet every time I come here there you are doing it. Over and over and over again.

One of the reason I don't come here often is your ridiculous, mindless blame/hate gaming.

I've never used the ignore option, but your extreme opinions tempt me

[bwgood77]

If the Suns said to another random team I will trade you Bledsoe, Knight, Markieff, Tucker, and Chandler combined (the opening night starting lineup) for your top ten pick, I would say absolutely not if I was the other team. I would rather have a top ten pick anywhere in the top ten over all five of those players combined.

Check please!!!

I've been browsing this board for like 8 and a half years, and the above is the most ludicrous opinion I've ever read. There's not a close second I can remember. I'm not even factoring in the weakness of this upcoming draft.

Wow. Just wow.

Why? The only guy of those five players I like is Chandler but he is too old now to be worth a top ten pick. The other four guys, I cannot express how much I loathe the fact they are on the Suns. I would dump Bledsoe, Knight, Markieff, and Tucker for second round picks if I could. I hate the way they play basketball. Career losers.

Btw, I understand they are worth more than second round picks, but I just want them off the team asap.

Do you really want the Suns to be THAT terrible for years? I mean, I don't like some of those players much either, but I think they could be trade for a heck of a lot more than that. You can't really be much of a Suns fan if you'd pull the trigger on that unless you just want to go Philly style.

[shakendfries]

If the Suns said to another random team I will trade you Bledsoe, Knight, Markieff, Tucker, and Chandler combined (the opening night starting lineup) for your top ten pick, I would say absolutely not if I was the other team. I would rather have a top ten pick anywhere in the top ten over all five of those players combined.

Check please!!!

I've been browsing this board for like 8 and a half years, and the above is the most ludicrous opinion I've ever read. There's not a close second I can remember. I'm not even factoring in the weakness of this upcoming draft.

Wow. Just wow.

Why? The only guy of those five players I like is Chandler but he is too old now to be worth a top ten pick. The other four guys, I cannot express how much I loathe the fact they are on the Suns. I would dump Bledsoe, Knight, Markieff, and Tucker for second round picks if I could. I hate the way they play basketball. Career losers.

Btw, I understand they are worth more than second round picks, but I just want them off the team asap.

I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is to find an NBA starter in the draft. Of the 55 lottery picks in the 4-14 range from 2010-2014, only 17 of them are NBA starters today. The vast majority are borderline rotation plyers and scrubs. All of them were highly touted and viewed to be promising at draft time- the Zellers, Alex Len, Dion Waiters, Thomas Robinsons were all top 5 picks and barely contribute. Your claim that you would trade your entire starting lineup for a player with a 30% chance of starting in the NBA is ludicrous to say the least.

[dremill24]

This is the "two in the Bush is worth more than one on the hand" line of thinking. There's a certain intrigue to the unknown that leads people to want the gamble in a draft pick that realistically has a low chance of panning out over the established, tangible value they already have. It's unfortunately not uncommon and one of the big reasons just getting rid of everything for picks doesn't usually work out except for extremely fortuitous situations.

[dremill24]

Toronto wants a 4 for a future pick? Make it happen Ryan!

[bwgood77]

This is the "two in the Bush is worth more than one on the hand" line of thinking. There's a certain intrigue to the unknown that leads people to want the gamble in a draft pick that realistically has a low chance of panning out over the established, tangible value they already have. It's unfortunately not uncommon and one of the big reasons just getting rid of everything for picks doesn't usually work out except for extremely fortuitous situations.

Welcome! And good post. I find myself falling for the hype too, but in this draft, it appears we have a relatively good chance of jumping into top 3. I wouldn't be opposed to trading a protected pick for a solid starter, but don't want to give up on a chance at one of the guys who look like almost sure things.

[letsgosuns]

I think you guys do not realize how high I am on Booker and Warren and I still think Len can become a serviceable center. I absolutely believe Booker has superstar potential. I also think Warren can be a 20 point a night scorer. If you guys think I want to go the Philadelphia route you are mistaken.

Let's analyze this: The Suns team with Bledsoe, Knight, Tucker, Markieff, and Chandler is AWFUL with a capital A. Each one of those players has no future on this team imo.

Knight? I do not even want to get into it with this guy. He is the dumbest and most pathetic starting point guard I have ever seen on the Suns. If you are getting paid 70 million dollars for five years, I want you to be on the level of KJ, Kidd, or Nash. RIGHT NOW. Not next year, not in two years, now.

Bledsoe? If he actually played every game like he cared it would be different but half the time he takes nights off ala Vince Carter. Plus he is paid like an all star just like Knight so the expectations of him being like KJ, Kidd, or Nash are the same for me. He also has now had three knee surgeries and missed a ton of time.

Tucker? I think everybody knows this guy is not an NBA quality starting small forward. The guy has no offensive game. He is just a hustle player and not a very good one.

Markieff? No need to comment on him.

Chandler? Extremely useful on a contender but pointless on a rebuilding team unless they turn it around quickly.

Did you guys see how well the Suns played for three quarters last night against the 5th seed in the East on the road. They were right there the whole game and were playing Goodwin at point and some brand new NBA player. Booker was unstoppable. Warren had an off night but that was unusual. Seriously if the new point guard can be come a good passer or they can get a good passing point guard, this team will take off.

Passing point guard/Goodwin
Booker/Bogdanovich
Warren
New PF
Len or Chandler if he is still on the team.

Then add a top five pick at some position. Sign or trade for other players. I truly believe that a foundation of Booker, Warren, and Len with another top pick and and some free agents or trades is a contender much sooner rather than later. I am already seeing Booker make all star plays in his rookie year. That kid is going to be awesome.

[bwgood77]

Spoiler:

I think you guys do not realize how high I am on Booker and Warren and I still think Len can become a serviceable center. I absolutely believe Booker has superstar potential. I also think Warren can be a 20 point a night scorer. If you guys think I want to go the Philadelphia route you are mistaken.

Let's analyze this: The Suns team with Bledsoe, Knight, Tucker, Markieff, and Chandler is AWFUL with a capital A. Each one of those players has no future on this team imo.

Knight? I do not even want to get into it with this guy. He is the dumbest and most pathetic starting point guard I have ever seen on the Suns. If you are getting paid 70 million dollars for five years, I want you to be on the level of KJ, Kidd, or Nash. RIGHT NOW. Not next year, not in two years, now.

Bledsoe? If he actually played every game like he cared it would be different but half the time he takes nights off ala Vince Carter. Plus he is paid like an all star just like Knight so the expectations of him being like KJ, Kidd, or Nash are the same for me. He also has now had three knee surgeries and missed a ton of time.

Tucker? I think everybody knows this guy is not an NBA quality starting small forward. The guy has no offensive game. He is just a hustle player and not a very good one.

Markieff? No need to comment on him.

Chandler? Extremely useful on a contender but pointless on a rebuilding team unless they turn it around quickly.

Did you guys see how well the Suns played for three quarters last night against the 5th seed in the East on the road. They were right there the whole game and were playing Goodwin at point and some brand new NBA player. Booker was unstoppable. Warren had an off night but that was unusual. Seriously if the new point guard can be come a good passer or they can get a good passing point guard, this team will take off.

Passing point guard/Goodwin
Booker/Bogdanovich
Warren
New PF
Len or Chandler if he is still on the team.

Then add a top five pick at some position. Sign or trade for other players. I truly believe that a foundation of Booker, Warren, and Len with another top pick and and some free agents or trades is a contender much sooner rather than later. I am already seeing Booker make all star plays in his rookie year. That kid is going to be awesome.

I agree with a lot of what you say, except I'd keep Bledsoe who probably has limited trade value anyway, and can be a stud. Not a huge fan of Knight. I like Tucker and his energy, and I think he really is a pretty good court influence for guys like Booker and Warren because all of those guys seem to play better when he is out there with him. I think his energy is contagious. Now I don't want Warren sitting in front of him, but given where our roster is now, I don't mind Tucker getting time at the 4 on occasion playing with those guys. I wouldn't mind if he is traded, but I like what he offers. He may not score much but he puts in effort, passes...had five assists setting up guys like Telly or Booker last night, and just gets the team going sometimes. Markieff and Chandler I'm fine getting rid of.

But I still would like to get decent deals for those guys if possible. Bledsoe is out anyway, so the young guys are getting minutes. Knight has the opportunity to show if he can improve. Markieff will be traded in time, and perhaps Tucker soon as well. Not sure about Chandler. I'm guessing we keep him at least until next summer and maybe until next deadline because I'm guessing some team that strikes out in free agency needing a center would trade for him, even if they don't give up much.

[shakendfries]

I think I've come up with a good 3 team deal (sounds like an oxymoron), but I'm not sure it makes a ton of sense from PHX's perspective. I'm just going off of articles I've read stating how much Knight is struggling in PHX:

BKN NOP
(out) Lopez
(in) Knight, Asik, NOP/PHX protected 2016 1st
*the pick would be protected so BKN gets the lesser of either NOP or PHX 2016 1st

PHX
(out) Knight Morris
(in) Gordon, Anderson, NOP/PHX 2016 protected 1st

NOP
(out) Asik, Gordon, Anderson
(in) Lopez, Morris

PHX would probably say no because they'd be getting rid of Knight for virtually nothing (Isaiah Thomas trade 2.0) and would be getting 2 expiring in return, but its the only way I can get the contracts to work. New Orleans would receive the most immediate value out of the deal.

PHX might like the deal if they believe they can get Gordon + Anderson to resign to reasonable contracts. Gordon may be a better fit than Knight as a pure SG - potential mentor to Booker, and eventual backup. Anderson is a true stretch 4 who can light it up, and would be an upgrade over Mirza. It guarantees a high pick for PHX as well.

[TeamTragic]

I think you guys do not realize how high I am on Booker and Warren and I still think Len can become a serviceable center. I absolutely believe Booker has superstar potential. I also think Warren can be a 20 point a night scorer. If you guys think I want to go the Philadelphia route you are mistaken.

Let's analyze this: The Suns team with Bledsoe, Knight, Tucker, Markieff, and Chandler is AWFUL with a capital A. Each one of those players has no future on this team imo.

Knight? I do not even want to get into it with this guy. He is the dumbest and most pathetic starting point guard I have ever seen on the Suns. If you are getting paid 70 million dollars for five years, I want you to be on the level of KJ, Kidd, or Nash. RIGHT NOW. Not next year, not in two years, now.

Bledsoe? If he actually played every game like he cared it would be different but half the time he takes nights off ala Vince Carter. Plus he is paid like an all star just like Knight so the expectations of him being like KJ, Kidd, or Nash are the same for me. He also has now had three knee surgeries and missed a ton of time.

Tucker? I think everybody knows this guy is not an NBA quality starting small forward. The guy has no offensive game. He is just a hustle player and not a very good one.

Markieff? No need to comment on him.

Chandler? Extremely useful on a contender but pointless on a rebuilding team unless they turn it around quickly.

Did you guys see how well the Suns played for three quarters last night against the 5th seed in the East on the road. They were right there the whole game and were playing Goodwin at point and some brand new NBA player. Booker was unstoppable. Warren had an off night but that was unusual. Seriously if the new point guard can be come a good passer or they can get a good passing point guard, this team will take off.

Passing point guard/Goodwin
Booker/Bogdanovich
Warren
New PF
Len or Chandler if he is still on the team.

Then add a top five pick at some position. Sign or trade for other players. I truly believe that a foundation of Booker, Warren, and Len with another top pick and and some free agents or trades is a contender much sooner rather than later. I am already seeing Booker make all star plays in his rookie year. That kid is going to be awesome.

I definitely agree with your conclusion at this point in the season. I would say that Bledsoe should be kept around for one more opportunity because he had been tearing it up this season. Knight on the other hand clearly does not want to play with Bledsoe and we have the same issue that has plagued this team since last season.

Everyone else should be moved ASAP. As far as last nights game you are absolutely right that we have potential. Except Hornacek (once again) is playing Tucker 35 minutes. I would prefer to keep Teletovic and bring him off the bench.

[Barkley_34]

I think I've come up with a good 3 team deal (sounds like an oxymoron), but I'm not sure it makes a ton of sense from PHX's perspective. I'm just going off of articles I've read stating how much Knight is struggling in PHX:

BKN NOP
(out) Lopez
(in) Knight, Asik, NOP/PHX protected 2016 1st
*the pick would be protected so BKN gets the lesser of either NOP or PHX 2016 1st

PHX
(out) Knight Morris
(in) Gordon, Anderson, NOP/PHX 2016 protected 1st

NOP
(out) Asik, Gordon, Anderson
(in) Lopez, Morris

PHX would probably say no because they'd be getting rid of Knight for virtually nothing (Isaiah Thomas trade 2.0) and would be getting 2 expiring in return, but its the only way I can get the contracts to work. New Orleans would receive the most immediate value out of the deal.

PHX might like the deal if they believe they can get Gordon + Anderson to resign to reasonable contracts. Gordon may be a better fit than Knight as a pure SG - potential mentor to Booker, and eventual backup. Anderson is a true stretch 4 who can light it up, and would be an upgrade over Mirza. It guarantees a high pick for PHX as well.

Jesus No! please stop with this. Suns want a rebuild. Stop

[shakendfries]

Jesus No! please stop with this. Suns want a rebuild. Stop

[rsavaj]

I didn't realize the Lopez twins were already 27. Time really flies

[AtheJ415]

I didn't realize the Lopez twins were already 27. Time really flies

Don't worry. When I win the powerball I will build a time machine.

[Kerrsed]

I dont get it. Nets fan wants our pick (top 3 protected). When we say no, his response is that there is only 2 maybe-all-star-type players in the draft. Well, if that were so, then wouldnt Brooklyn rather take our pick NEXT YEAR, where there might be more, since this is a weak draft and all? Yeah.......


Its like on the trade board how everyone and their mama downplays Morris and what he can do. They say he is a negative value and has sucked balls this season, yet they are constantly coming up with trades to desperately get him on their team and for cheap. If he is that bad and a negative value, then why do you guys keep posting trade after trade after trade trying to get him? Yeah.....

[RaisingArizona]

With the way McD has drafted, we should never be selling picks unless it's used to acquire a star. Sorry, but BOLO isn't a star.

[Damkac]

The other four guys, I cannot express how much I loathe the fact they are on the Suns. I would dump Bledsoe, Knight, Markieff, and Tucker for second round picks if I could. I hate the way they play basketball. Career losers.