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Rebuilding the 2004 Pistons with current players

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Rebuilding the 2004 Pistons with current players 

Post#1 » by Laimbeer » Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:35 pm

Going for players similar in style and ability

Ben Wallace - DeAndre Jordan
Rasheed Wallace - Chris Bosh
Tayshaun Prince - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Rip Hamilton - Manu Ginobli
Chauncey Billups - Kyle Lowry

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Re: Rebuilding the 2004 Pistons with current players 

Post#2 » by ducler » Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:16 pm

Maybe Beal instead of Ginobili?
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Post#3 » by Jstock12 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:25 pm

2004 Hamilton wasn't that similar to 2016 Ginobili in terms of ability.
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Re: Rebuilding the 2004 Pistons with current players 

Post#4 » by Snakebites » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:43 pm

There's no Ben Wallace in today's NBA.
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Post#5 » by Jstock12 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:57 pm

Snakebites wrote:There's no Ben Wallace in today's NBA.


Yep. However, some combination of Draymond Green & Andre Drummond is probably a decent comparison.
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Post#6 » by Canadafan » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:12 pm

Rip wasnt much of a 3pt shooter though. Rasheed compared to Bosh is just wrong. Hmmmm. I like this thread, good one.
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Re: Rebuilding the 2004 Pistons with current players 

Post#7 » by Snakebites » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:15 pm

I'm not sure there is a shooting guard just like Rip right now, either. A guy who was great at moving without the ball, and a great motor, and no ability to create a shot with the ball in his hands. He had such specific skill sets and big limitations.
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Post#8 » by Laimbeer » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:29 pm

Snakebites wrote:I'm not sure there is a shooting guard just like Rip right now, either. A guy who was great at moving without the ball, and a great motor, and no ability to create a shot with the ball in his hands. He had such specific skill sets and big limitations.


It seems I remember him catching passes farther out from the basket and slithering his way in a bit for a mid-range jumper. But as far as pure handles and driving to the basket, not so much.
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Re: Rebuilding the 2004 Pistons with current players 

Post#9 » by DCintheD » Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:49 pm

I like this.. mine would be..

Ben - Drummond
Rasheed - Draymond
Tayshaun - Batum (pre-injuries)
Rip - ??? (maybe Klay, or a consistent KCP)
Chauncey - Mike Conley
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Post#10 » by MrBigShot » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:55 pm

There's really no Ben or Rip in today's nba. Closest to Chauncey currently is likely Kyle Lowry...both use their body well, score extremely efficiently, get to the line a lot and shoot the ball well from 3 while acting as the floor general.

Not really a Rasheed either, but Bosh is the closest to him i can think of stylistically. I'd say:

Chauncey: Kyle Lowry
Rip: JJ Redick (same off ball movement/curling action but shoots threes instead)
Tay: Batum
Sheed: Bosh
Ben: Draymond
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