Our team based on players we drafted

Laimbeer · Post #1 » by **Laimbeer** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:03 pm

Drummond/Amir/Maxiell
Monroe/Jerebko/Budinger
Middleton/Johnson/Singler
KCP/Afflalo/Hilliard
Knight/Stuckey/Dinwiddie

Pretty damn good. I can also see using Middleton as a stretch four based on matchups. This would allow us to take advantage of the wing depth.

Kilo · Post #2 » by **Kilo** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:09 pm

Non-playoff team. Guards are sub-par and Monroe and Dre can't play together.

pistontr · Post #3 » by **pistontr** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:15 pm

Our team based on players we didn't draft

Marc Gasol/DeAndre
George/Jokic
Leonard/Belinelli
Booker/Green
Teague/Schroder

all of them avaible at that point. klay thompson and leonard avaible but we had one choice that point, so I have written one of them.

Laimbeer · Post #4 » by **Laimbeer** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:18 pm

Kilo wrote:Non-playoff team. Guards are sub-par and Monroe and Dre can't play together.

So Meeks and Blake are better than Afflalo and Stuckey? Unless you're seeing a lot of daylight between Reggie and Knight, though I like Knight.

Middleton is easily better than anyone on our team not named Dre and could be used as a stretch four. We wouldn't be committed to Drummond and Monroe playing together a lot.

Laimbeer · Post #5 » by **Laimbeer** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:19 pm

pistontr wrote:Our team based on players we didn't draft

Marc Gasol/DeAndre
George/Jokic
Leonard/Belinelli
Booker/Green
Teague/Schroder

all of them avaible at that point. klay thompson and leonard avaible but we had one choice that point, so I have written one of them.

You could do this with most every team using 20/20 hindsight.

Kilo · Post #6 » by **Kilo** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:30 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Kilo wrote:Non-playoff team. Guards are sub-par and Monroe and Dre can't play together.

So Meeks and Blake are better than Afflalo and Stuckey? Unless you're seeing a lot of daylight between Reggie and Knight, though I like Knight.

Middleton is easily better than anyone on our team not named Dre and could be used as a stretch four. We wouldn't be committed to Drummond and Monroe playing together a lot.

I don't like Knight as a pure point.

With this roster and SVG as coach I'd probably try Middleton at the four, start Stanley Johnson at the three. Moose would be Dre's back-up with Amir backing up the 4. Probably start AA as well

Knight|Stuckey
Afflalo|KCP
S.Johnson|
Middleton|A.Johnson
Drummond|Monroe

Bakuto · Post #7 » by **Bakuto** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:03 pm

It still kills me that Milwaukee wanted Singler rather than Middleton initially.

Jackson and Middleton would be fantastic backcourt.

Kilo · Post #8 » by **Kilo** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:50 pm

Catalysm wrote:It still kills me that Milwaukee wanted Singler rather than Middleton initially.

Jackson and Middleton would be fantastic backcourt.

Remember we traded Singler for Jackson. Can`t trade Kyle twice...

Bakuto · Post #9 » by **Bakuto** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:28 pm

Kilo wrote:
Catalysm wrote:It still kills me that Milwaukee wanted Singler rather than Middleton initially.

Jackson and Middleton would be fantastic backcourt.

Remember we traded Singler for Jackson. Can`t trade Kyle twice...

I imagine we would have found another piece to trade in the Jackson trade.

pistontr · Post #10 » by **pistontr** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:29 pm

knight and monroe was bad choices. leonard/thopmson and hayward/george was avaiable.
monroe is bench player now and knight is a chucker not a pg.

Arp590 · Post #11 » by **Arp590** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:31 pm

Pretty mediocre team to be honest. Brandon Knight is inefficient and not a PG.
Knight this season 5.1 Assist & 3.4 Turnovers per game...

We all know Stuckey is garage so I won't even go into that.

The only good part is that we would have Middleton.

Alexander · Post #12 » by **Alexander** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:31 pm

pistontr wrote:knight and monroe was bad choices. leonard/thopmson and hayward/george was avaiable.
monroe is bench player now and knight is a chucker not a pg.

I could not disagree more.
Knight was projected to go as high as third overall. Kawhi Leonard at 15 and Knight at 8 were in entirely different ranges. It was between BIsmack Biyombo and Knight at #8 with a minority wanting Kemba Walker. We had Tayshaun, Jerebko, and Daye on the roster. Nobody can say that Kawhi would have been the same player on the Pistons that he is on the Spurs (better team, better system, better organization, better coach, etc..), just like I would bet against Thompson being as effective he is on a system that isn't Golden State's. Knight played the most minutes on the team as a rookie.
The 2010 draft was going to be a bigman. We were ecstatic when Monroe fell; the alternative would have been Cole Aldrich or Ekpe Udoh or even Ed Davis. Those are terrifying scenarios. Monroe played the second most minutes on the team as a rookie.

They were the right picks, now and then. Drafting Drummond made Monroe expendable, but that does not mean that he didn't have tremendous value at #7 overall. Knight wasn't moved because he was ineffective, but because Joe doubled down on Josh Smith and Brandon Knight and a playoff push to save his job.

Say what you want about Joe, but drafting Monroe->Knight->Drummond was the last intelligent stretch of decisions that he made with the team.

Alexander · Post #13 » by **Alexander** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:06 pm

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2014/6/4/5779484/joe-dumars-complete-draft-history-with-the-pistons
^This is a pretty good breakdown.
"Andre Drummond No. 3 in career Win Shares (14.4). Nobody drafted after Drummond ranks higher in career WS."
"Brandon Knight No. 23 in career Win Shares (5.1). Notable available players ranked above Knight in career WS include Kawhi Leonard (No. 15, 19.4 WS, Kenneth Faried (No. 22, 18.9 WS), Chandler Parsons (No. 38, 18 WS), and many others."
"Greg Monroe No. 2 in career Win Shares (25.4). Notable available players ranked above Monroe in career WS include Paul George (No. 10, 28.2 WS)."
"Kentavious Caldwell-Pope No. 8 in career Win Shares (1.8). Notable available players ranked above Caldwell-Pope in career WS include Mason Plumlee (No. 22, 4.7), Tim Hardaway Jr. (No. 24, 3.1 WS) and Kelly Olynyk (No. 13, 2.9 WS)."