Absolute Best Case Scenario

[ChokeFasncists]

Well, since nothing much is happening and probably won't be for a long time, why not have some wild fun?

Many teams have surprised everyone by virtue of having a great head coach change and having the right players. As we were talking in another thread, could Atkinson turn out to be one of them? If so, what could be the absolute best case scenario for this team? How is it gonna happen and which team would it most closely resemble?

Some possibilities: MDA/Linsanity, MDA/Stat/Nash, Sloan/Stocks/Malone, Pop/Big3, Bud led Hawks, Doc led Magic, Brad Stevens led Celtics. (these teams either improved big after changes and/or are related to Atkinson)


Can he get them to play hard on D? Can he get his best player Brook to play all out hustle? We know Lin's gonna play hard. This team is pretty deep and everyone else's PT can be dished out according to effort and unselfishness. Can he get Booker, RHJ and/or Lin to win the rebounding wars? Could he use the role players in the most suitable way?

On the offensive end, BrookLin would be the main weapon, is it good enough? Would he be able to put shooters around them? Can he get Booker and RHJ to shoot adequately well? Could he get a good running game going? Could he develop the young guys to become capable contributors? Could LV be groomed to be the 2 ways wing this team so sorely need? Could he get someone to step up to be the third 15+ pts scorer? (Bogs?)

If all the answers are positive, who knows?


OTOH, if Atkinson coaches great, that means he maximizes the effectiveness of the roster. What could be the absolute best case scenario for each individual player?

Some already mentioned ones:

RHJ - poor man's Rodman, RJ
Lopez - 24/12 (if aggressive)
Harris - poor man's JJ Redick
Bogs - poor man's Peja
LV - Jalen/Penny (gotta stay healthy)

[KM6]

Best case scenario: Boston give up swapping picks with us and their fans come to this board and curse nonstop.

[shakendfries]

mrw i read these threads



the best case scenario is everyone develops into an all star and the nets win a chip, but since that obviously isn't gonna happen wouldn't time be better spent discussing stuff that's happened? how about the players in the olympics? the history of the team? there are 29 other teams in the league + various boards on this forum where scenarios can be discussed, but this wishful thinking is kinda...pathetic. no offense, but this thread really isn't appropriate for a team both projected and expected to suck ass. the best case scenario is that it doesn't suck too much ass, but it's still gonna suck ass

just enjoy the season and maybe we'll all be surprised, what's the point in getting all worked up about things now?

[Net Sentence]

Can we stop opening New threads needlessly. There is already a Predictions thread and this belongs in there

[ChokeFasncists]

Best case scenario: Boston give up swapping picks with us and their fans come to this board and curse nonstop.

the best case scenario is everyone develops into an all star and the nets win a chip

~lol~ Those'd be nice. How tho? IMO it'd more interesting to either keep it within the realm of possibility or provide some kinda reasoning why you think it might happen.

[MrDollarBills]

best case scenario is that Caris LeVert has a breakout season.

seriously.

[MGrand15]

Best case scenario is what Portland did last season. Not as good but same sort of model. Expectations were really low. 2 lead players + good young roleplayers + good coaching helped them overachieve.

[dalton749]

Sign lance Stevenson for a year. What's the worst that could happen.

[MrDollarBills]

Sign lance Stevenson for a year. What's the worst that could happen.

dude may have to sign overseas. he only has himself to blame for being blacklisted.

[Prokorov]

best case:

Lopez has a great start, like 23/10 or something, and raises his value to where he can be dealt for a big return

Levert and McCullough show they have potential to be NBA starters, RHJ is named to the all-NBA defensive team, allowing his value ot raise and him starting to get reputation calls.

Bogs plays well, scores 20 a game, and raises his value where he can be dealt for picks or young assets at the deadline.

The nets stay healthy enough and tyhe youngg uys play well enough to get us to 30 wins where we are bad, but not punchline bad.

to me thats best case. turning lopez and bogs into great assets, have our young gusy develop into good assets, and trying to add vets to those assets next offseason

[MrDollarBills]

if we deal Lopez though the return will have to include a veteran that other vets will come to play with. Any vets of substance in next year's FA class aren't going to sign on to carry a super young team with growing pains and no clear cut franchise player or at least all star out of the bunch. Otherwise it makes zero sense.

Like Boston for example has a team full of C + D tier pieces headed by a legit all star in Isiah Thomas (B tier). They gained a good rep for themselves and they became attractive to a guy like Al Horford. If thomas wasn't there Horford doesn't sign on. If Lopez puts up serious numbers in Kenny's system the attraction for a FA would be to come add on to what the Nets are building, not waste time waiting for young assets to develop. Seems like a counter productive step.

[Prokorov]

if we deal Lopez though the return will have to include a veteran that other vets will come to play with. Any vets of substance in next year's FA class aren't going to sign on to carry a super young team with growing pains and no clear cut franchise player or at least all star out of the bunch. Otherwise it makes zero sense.

Like Boston for example has a team full of C + D tier pieces headed by a legit all star in Isiah Thomas (B tier). They gained a good rep for themselves and they became attractive to a guy like Al Horford. If thomas wasn't there Horford doesn't sign on. If Lopez puts up serious numbers in Kenny's system the attraction for a FA would be to come add on to what the Nets are building, not waste time waiting for young assets to develop. Seems like a counter productive step.

i dont think anyone is coming to play with lopez. even if he posts a 20/10+ year this is still a 25-30 win team. boston won 48 games last year.

i think we need to start thinking about 2018-2020 for signing real talent. no one on this roster is luring anyone. no one cared last offseason that we had lopez, i doubt they care next offseason.

on the other hand, lopez playing well increases his value. sell high, free up the C spot for a modern day type. build with youth. hope they overachieve. collect assets and hope a trade for an all-star becomes a possiblity at some point.

we arent 1 year behind the boston model, its more like 3 years behind

[MrDollarBills]

it will be more than 3 years if we sell high on Lopez and not get at least a B tier player in the return. A roster full of D's and unprovens is not going to lure anyone either. chances of that happening via trade is unlikely.

[Prokorov]

it will be more than 3 years if we sell high on Lopez and not get at least a B tier player in the return. A roster full of D's and unprovens is not going to lure anyone either. chances of that happening via trade is unlikely.

if its more then 3 years then thats what it is. i think the odds of us trading for an all-star would be better then the odds of us signing one, especially if lopez upped his value and the picks/assets we got for him where good.

we saw 2 years ago that there wasnt much demand for brook. okc players didnt campaign for him. we saw last year brook was not a draw, im not sure that would change, even if say he went for 22/10 and we won 35ish games. We could always get lucky and have 2 guys like the idea of teaming up here, but that could happen with or without brook.

[Johnstarks]

I'd say 32-50 best case and thats really stretching it

[TinmanZBoy]

somehow make the playoff

[Bar Fight]

Celtics lose the lottery.

[ChokeFasncists]

best case scenario is that Caris LeVert has a breakout season.

seriously.

Agreed, and it's totally possible. This kid's got talent, he just needs to stay healthy. He played four years of college ball so should be able to contribute quickly. Just gotta take it slow. It'd be a huge plus if he just be a 3&D wing that can pass.

[MrDollarBills]

it will be more than 3 years if we sell high on Lopez and not get at least a B tier player in the return. A roster full of D's and unprovens is not going to lure anyone either. chances of that happening via trade is unlikely.

if its more then 3 years then thats what it is. i think the odds of us trading for an all-star would be better then the odds of us signing one, especially if lopez upped his value and the picks/assets we got for him where good.

we saw 2 years ago that there wasnt much demand for brook. okc players didnt campaign for him. we saw last year brook was not a draw, im not sure that would change, even if say he went for 22/10 and we won 35ish games. We could always get lucky and have 2 guys like the idea of teaming up here, but that could happen with or without brook.

no one is teaming up here. i'm not sure how many more offseasons it will take for you to drop this fantasy of yours. And then when it doesn't come true you're going to blame Marks. Come on.

i won't poo poo the idea of us trading for an all star if we acquire substantial assets for Lopez, but the chances of that are slim to none. Andf if we're getting an all star in a trade, its probably a disgruntled one on an expiring deal. no thanks, been there, done that.

i'd rather just build with Lopez here if thats the case. This roster is thin enough as is. I'm good with this trading guys just for the sake of trading them because they don't fit your view of modern basketball. You wanted Thad dumped out of here since last offseason and the end result didn't turn out the way you had wanted, I'm not interested in doing the same with Lopez.

[Chris4Vikes]

Lopez for a couple of firsts is what this team should be doing. Build with Lopez? He'll be old or gone before this team can compete.