Jahlil Okafor

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Post#1 » by LALifer49 » Tue Nov 1, 2016 7:33 pm

Has any 17/7 decent efficiency rookie ever gotten as little love as this guy?

Here is a prospect I was very excited about coming out of college, who in a very bad situation with no guard help put up good numbers while displaying amazing post moves. His numbers once he gets even a passable pg like ish smith are even better, and if I recall pretty efficient.

Yet no one is listing him as a big of the future or even one of the top prospects of his draft. He has the potential to be a prolific scorer. To quote the black eyed peas "where is the love?"
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Post#2 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Nov 1, 2016 7:39 pm

I believe he average like 18 ppg on like 60% shooting once the 6ers got Ish.

With that said, the 6ers have a more exciting prospect at the same position so that puts a huge damper on him. Plus his biggest strengths are not really that valued in the NBA today and his biggest weaknesses are very important in today's game. Even though I will say his rim protection isn't nearly as bad as most people on here believe. It's his PnR and help defense that is horrible
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Post#3 » by tsherkin » Tue Nov 1, 2016 7:39 pm

LALifer49 wrote:Has any 17/7 decent efficiency rookie ever gotten as little love as this guy?

Here is a prospect I was very excited about coming out of college, who in a very bad situation with no guard help put up good numbers while displaying amazing post moves. His numbers once he gets even a passable pg like ish smith are even better, and if I recall pretty efficient.

Yet no one is listing him as a big of the future or even one of the top prospects of his draft. He has the potential to be a prolific scorer. To quote the black eyed peas "where is the love?"


Weak defender. Unimpressive rebounder. Doesn't really project confidence for developing into an offensive focal player. No demonstrated range past about 10 feet. Slightly below average efficiency (albeit as a rookie and in some turbulent circumstances), why should he get more pub?

He's not a "big of the future," he doesn't do enough to garner that sort of label. He might become a better scorer, he certainly has the moves and works well off of a halfway decent point guard but I mean, it's pretty clear that he's not the same level of talent as some of the guys who get talked about ahead of him. He projects as a very reasonable player, but more of a utility player than a top-end star.

*shrugs*

He's in that "g'head and prove it" stage now more than anything, as others have moved ahead of where he is and only time will give us the answers.
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Post#4 » by MessiahUjiri » Tue Nov 1, 2016 7:43 pm

Why don't you think he's getting the love?

Maybe it's his inability to can't anchor a defense, or help stretch the floor on offense? No one denies his low post scoring skills, but he has some deficiencies which aren't easy fixes.
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Post#5 » by cyclix » Tue Nov 1, 2016 7:43 pm

Winslow was the best player on that Duke championship team, not Okafor.
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Post#6 » by Clay Davis » Tue Nov 1, 2016 7:44 pm

Hes an Enes Kanter
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Post#7 » by Edug27 » Tue Nov 1, 2016 7:44 pm

cyclix wrote:Winslow was the best player on that Duke championship team, not Okafor.


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Post#8 » by magnumt » Tue Nov 1, 2016 7:52 pm

His game has always reminded me of ZBo's.

Hopefully he grows over time. But either way, 2015 was an E-P-I-C draft in the making! :clap:

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Post#9 » by XtotheDeezy » Tue Nov 1, 2016 7:55 pm

Clay Davis wrote:Hes an Enes Kanter


Enes is a better rebounder, but I think Okafor has a more polished offensive skillset. At the end of the day, though, they're both pretty much career utility players.
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Post#10 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Tue Nov 1, 2016 7:58 pm

cyclix wrote:Winslow was the best player on that Duke championship team, not Okafor.

I think Winslow has a much brighter future in the NBA than Okafor, but this statement is just not true in my opinion.
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Post#11 » by Kaykoose » Tue Nov 1, 2016 8:00 pm

cyclix wrote:Winslow was the best player on that Duke championship team, not Okafor.


This is just wrong...
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Post#12 » by MotownMadness » Tue Nov 1, 2016 8:02 pm

cyclix wrote:Winslow was the best player on that Duke championship team, not Okafor.

Only if you never watched a Duke game at that time. But yes Winslow stepped up when they needed it and I would easily take him over Okafor now.
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Post#13 » by Slava » Tue Nov 1, 2016 8:03 pm

Clay Davis wrote:Hes an Enes Kanter


Okafor is a much better passer and someone you can mold into an offensive central piece if you are committed to him, which the 76ers clearly are not with Embiid and Noel around. His help defense was also halfway decent at college level.

He more than anything else needs a change so he can get the opportunity to hone his offensive repertoire.
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Post#14 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Nov 1, 2016 8:06 pm

cyclix wrote:Winslow was the best player on that Duke championship team, not Okafor.


Okafor was the better player. Winslow was the more important player.
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Post#15 » by JB2 » Tue Nov 1, 2016 8:18 pm

Problem is that there is little to no trade market for him-- I mean, I cannot think of any team that is going to be willing to send something significant for him. Philly should let Boston have him by now but they thought they could get more and now it may be backfiring.

IMO, perfect fit for Jah is NO. Anthony Davis (another Chi kid) is the ideal compliment to his weaknesses and Jahlil can be effective in freeing up Davis a little bit more.

Then again, not sure NO has anything to offer Philly.
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Post#16 » by XtremeDunkz » Tue Nov 1, 2016 8:19 pm

From everything coming from Philly, Jah is off the table as of right now. Noel is going to be the one moved.
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Post#17 » by Latrell » Tue Nov 1, 2016 8:21 pm

Actually I think the best comparison is someone like Al Jefferson.
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Post#18 » by tsherkin » Tue Nov 1, 2016 8:29 pm

Latrell wrote:Actually I think the best comparison is someone like Al Jefferson.


With less rebounding and a higher offensive ceiling, but yeah. Smaller big without elite athleticism but really strong post skills, definitely adds up.
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Post#19 » by Nuggets_Talk » Tue Nov 1, 2016 8:29 pm

cyclix wrote:Winslow was the best player on that Duke championship team, not Okafor.


#onlybecausemiamidraftedhim
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Post#20 » by 2LeTTeRS » Tue Nov 1, 2016 8:36 pm

JB2 wrote:Problem is that there is little to no trade market for him-- I mean, I cannot think of any team that is going to be willing to send something significant for him. Philly should let Boston have him by now but they thought they could get more and now it may be backfiring.

IMO, perfect fit for Jah is NO. Anthony Davis (another Chi kid) is the ideal compliment to his weaknesses and Jahlil can be effective in freeing up Davis a little bit more.

Then again, not sure NO has anything to offer Philly.


I've thought this as well. Maybe this could have happened prior to the season, but with the way he's looked so far this year no way the Sixers would consider dealing Okafor for him.

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