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Where is Sam Hinkie? 

Post#1 » by MatthewGeigerII » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:21 pm

Needed to add The Great One as an addition for the "Where is...?" Series!


1 - Do you think Sam Hinkie will be back in the league soon? Will his process be justified at the end of this season?
2 - Which team, if you had to make a guess now, will he end up with/ who can use him?


My thought is the Nets and in this offseason.
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Post#2 » by Unbreakable99 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:25 pm

I do think Hinkie will be back as GM and it will be to the detriment of us because he is going to get Embiid to sign with him when he becomes a free agent. Embiid loves him. That will be the ultimate revenge and FU to Josh Harris and sixers management and the Colangelos.
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Re: Where is Sam Hinkie? 

Post#3 » by TTP » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:27 pm

We need to try to get Embiid to rally to bring Hinkie back.
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Post#4 » by phiphan » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:30 pm

I don't think he'll do another tank and total rebuild. I could see him taking over a team with talent in place but not doing very well, or spinning tires. Maybe New Orleans or Denver (for that fresh powpow). I could also see Dallas scooping him up. Cuban had some kind words for Hinkie after he resigned.
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Post#5 » by snoopdogg88 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:19 pm

Are you sure about that?

Cuban has been outspoken against the lottery and tanking in general. He seems to be a big proponent of mediocrity over bad
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Re: Where is Sam Hinkie? 

Post#6 » by MatthewGeigerII » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:25 pm

what if...



Vlade messes up again (or the swap actually happens) and the Kings decide to hire the man who fleeced them.

Sam stays in Cali and goes to the Kings to fix their situation.
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Re: Where is Sam Hinkie? 

Post#7 » by ShirleyTemple » Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:41 pm

MatthewGeigerII wrote:what if...



Vlade messes up again (or the swap actually happens) and the Kings decide to hire the man who fleeced them.

Sam stays in Cali and goes to the Kings to fix their situation.

He starts with trading Rudy Gay to Philly for Stauskas and Sac 2019 pick. 8-)
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Re: Where is Sam Hinkie? 

Post#8 » by the_process » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:01 pm

Stanford.
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Post#9 » by SelfishPlayer » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:45 pm

"The process" is inferior to just simply drafting well and developing what you have. Hinkie's process couldn't pick out and develop the best talent available in the draft, it just tanked for high picks. What's the use of having a high pick when year after year there will be players drafted after your selection that perform better than your selection? Hinkie was not a good drafter. This was hidden slightly by the fact that the Sixers had high picks year after year. If the Hinkie's regime had to draft in the 6-15 area, I don't believe that Hinkie would have selected and developed a gem there.
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Re: Where is Sam Hinkie? 

Post#10 » by Sixerscan » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:50 pm

Good thing his plan was literally built around not drafting in that area.
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Post#11 » by phiphan » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:52 pm

snoopdogg88 wrote:Are you sure about that?

Cuban has been outspoken against the lottery and tanking in general. He seems to be a big proponent of mediocrity over bad


Yep I'm sure

When asked about his opinion of the Sixers, Cuban said: “I am a huge fan of Sam Hinkie, a huge fan.”


http://973espn.com/mark-cuban-i-am-a-huge-fan-of-sam-hinkie/

He also said someone should hire Hinkie as a consultant in the interim.
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Post#12 » by LongLiveHinkie » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:07 pm

Sam Hinkie resides currently in my heart.
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Post#13 » by Sixerscan » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:47 pm

snoopdogg88 wrote:Are you sure about that?

Cuban has been outspoken against the lottery and tanking in general. He seems to be a big proponent of mediocrity over bad

Believe this is an example of "don't hate the player, hate the game"
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Post#14 » by TTP » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:25 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:"The process" is inferior to just simply drafting well and developing what you have. Hinkie's process couldn't pick out and develop the best talent available in the draft, it just tanked for high picks. What's the use of having a high pick when year after year there will be players drafted after your selection that perform better than your selection? Hinkie was not a good drafter. This was hidden slightly by the fact that the Sixers had high picks year after year. If the Hinkie's regime had to draft in the 6-15 area, I don't believe that Hinkie would have selected and developed a gem there.


Did you really post the bolded? That's not a good sentence for anyone that wants to maintain the appearance of being rational and intelligent.

It's even worse when factoring the context of the claim coming after it. If your premise is that someone is a bad drafter, then logically, it's even more beneficial to have a high pick, because higher picks, on average, have a greater chance of being a star and a lower chance of busting than lower picks.
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Re: Where is Sam Hinkie? 

Post#15 » by XDevilBoiX » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:52 pm

TTP wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:"The process" is inferior to just simply drafting well and developing what you have. Hinkie's process couldn't pick out and develop the best talent available in the draft, it just tanked for high picks. What's the use of having a high pick when year after year there will be players drafted after your selection that perform better than your selection? Hinkie was not a good drafter. This was hidden slightly by the fact that the Sixers had high picks year after year. If the Hinkie's regime had to draft in the 6-15 area, I don't believe that Hinkie would have selected and developed a gem there.


Did you really post the bolded? That's not a good sentence for anyone that wants to maintain the appearance of being rational and intelligent.

It's even worse when factoring the context of the claim coming after it. If your premise is that someone is a bad drafter, then logically, it's even more beneficial to have a high pick, because higher picks, on average, have a greater chance of being a star and a lower chance of busting than lower picks.


If all the owners think like him, there's alot of GMs in all the sports that would be out of jobs now. No one is perfect, I agree with you TPP.
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Re: Where is Sam Hinkie? 

Post#16 » by Unbreakable99 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:55 pm

TTP wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:"The process" is inferior to just simply drafting well and developing what you have. Hinkie's process couldn't pick out and develop the best talent available in the draft, it just tanked for high picks. What's the use of having a high pick when year after year there will be players drafted after your selection that perform better than your selection? Hinkie was not a good drafter. This was hidden slightly by the fact that the Sixers had high picks year after year. If the Hinkie's regime had to draft in the 6-15 area, I don't believe that Hinkie would have selected and developed a gem there.


Did you really post the bolded? That's not a good sentence for anyone that wants to maintain the appearance of being rational and intelligent.

It's even worse when factoring the context of the claim coming after it. If your premise is that someone is a bad drafter, then logically, it's even more beneficial to have a high pick, because higher picks, on average, have a greater chance of being a star and a lower chance of busting than lower picks.


Well said.
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Re: Where is Sam Hinkie? 

Post#17 » by ET Da Gawd » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:28 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:I do think Hinkie will be back as GM and it will be to the detriment of us because he is going to get Embiid to sign with him when he becomes a free agent. Embiid loves him. That will be the ultimate revenge and FU to Josh Harris and sixers management and the Colangelos.

Lol that would be a great zing to the bum colangelos and our unloyal front office


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Re: Where is Sam Hinkie? 

Post#18 » by ET Da Gawd » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:29 am

Sixerscan wrote:Good thing his plan was literally built around not drafting in that area.

Lol right? These guys don't get it


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Re: Where is Sam Hinkie? 

Post#19 » by SelfishPlayer » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:35 am

Sixerscan wrote:Good thing his SCAM was literally built around not drafting in that area.


His "plan" couldn't hide his own lack of talent, skill, and expertise in picking out and developing the best player left on the board. I always thought his goal was to put together a trade package for a superstar(s) much like The Celtics and Rockets had done. But his "plan" began trying to masquerade around like Seattle/OKC. :crazy: You actually have to have an eye for talent and the ability to develop that talent to be a Seattle/OKC. His plan wasn't a plan, it was a scam. The scam was to keep tanking year after year until he run out of time or got lucky in the draft. The NBA stepped in to remove the scammer so he ran out of time before he found luck.
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Re: Where is Sam Hinkie? 

Post#20 » by TTP » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:17 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:Good thing his SCAM was literally built around not drafting in that area.


His "plan" couldn't hide his own lack of talent, skill, and expertise in picking out and developing the best player left on the board. I always thought his goal was to put together a trade package for a superstar(s) much like The Celtics and Rockets had done. But his "plan" began trying to masquerade around like Seattle/OKC. :crazy: You actually have to have an eye for talent and the ability to develop that talent to be a Seattle/OKC. His plan wasn't a plan, it was a scam. The scam was to keep tanking year after year until he run out of time or got lucky in the draft. The NBA stepped in to remove the scammer so he ran out of time before he found luck.


What superstar was traded during Hinkie's tenure that he missed out on? He positioned himself to be in position to make a play should the opportunity arise, but none of the 9 players that I deem current superstars (Lebron, Curry, Durant, Paul, Kawhi, Harden, Westbrook, George, AD) nor any of the players on other teams that I think have superstar potential (Towns, Cousins, Giannis) have been moved in a trade in the last 4 years. The Garnett and Harden trades happened because of circumstances with their original teams and the Celtics and Rockets were positioned well to take advantage of it, just as Hinkie was.

BTW there's a lot of irony that you criticize Hinkie for his lack of action and reference the Harden trade, which Hinkie masterminded.

You continue to bring ignorance to every thread you enter. Every time I find myself on the opposite side of an argument from you, I'm content.
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