Trade #1
CLE Gets: Ty Lawson
CLE Gives: Cedi Osman
Why for CLE? Lawson gives them another playmaker and more PG depth to help them compete for another title this year.
SAC Gets: Cedi Osman
SAC Gives: Ty Lawson
Why for SAC? Osman is a good, young prospect who also gives us a prospect at a position we need (SF)
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Trade #2
Team X Gets: Ben McLemore
Team X Gives: 2019 2nd Round Pick
Why for Team X? Take a cheap flyer on McLemore
SAC Gets: 2019 2nd Round Pick
SAC Gives: Ben McLemore
Why for SAC? Get some value for McLemore while also having 2 young SGs as the future
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Trade #3
TOR Gets: Omri Casspi
TOR Gives: Delon Wright & Fred VanVleet
Why for TOR? Move their 3rd & 4th string PG for a sharp shooting SF/PF to help them with their playoff run.
SAC Gets: Delon Wright & Fred VanVleet
SAC Gives: Omri Casspi
Why for SAC? Get a couple of young PGs on rookie contracts that can develop into useful players
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Trade #4
WAS Gets: Darren Collison
WAS Gives: Trey Burke, Danuel House, & WAS 2017 1st Round Pick (Top 20 Protected)
Why for WAS? Washington's bench has been horrible this season. Collison gives them a sixth man type and a very tight 3 guard rotation (Wall, Beal, & Collison).
SAC Gets: Trey Burke, Danuel House, & WAS 2017 1st Round Pick (Top 20 Protected)
SAC Gives: Darren Collison
Why for SAC? Pick up a late 1st round pick for an expiring PG that could leave for nothing next year.
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Trade #5
CHA Gets: Kosta Koufos
CHA Gives: Roy Hibbert, Christian Wood, & CHA 2019 1st Round Pick (Top 20 Protected)
Why for CHA? Get a solid defensive C to help them compete now for a couple of expiring and a late 1st 3 years from now.
HOU Gets: Roy Hibbrt & Christian Wood
HOU Gives: Corey Brewer & HOU 2017 1st Round Pick (Top 20 Protected)
Why for HOU? Brewer is deadweight to them. Moving him for a couple of expirings allows them to have $21 mil in cap space next year with Beverley, Harden, Gordon, Ariza, Dekker Anderson, Harrell, Onuaku, & Capela still under contract. They could pick up another solid player to help push them over the top in the 2017-18 season.
SAC Gets: Corey Brewer, HOU 2017 1st Round Pick (Top 20 Protected), & CHA 2019 1st Round Pick (Top 20 Protected)
SAC Gives: Kosta Koufos
Why for SAC? We have Cousins at C already with two young guys who can play the backup C role in the future, so moving him for a couple of 1sts along with a player who's contract will expire with the a lot of other contracts (Temple, Afflalo, Gay, Barnes, & Tolliver) would be a good return.
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2016-17 Roster (to Finish the Year):
PG - Wright / VanVleet / Burke
SG - Temple / Richardson
SF - Afflalo / Barnes / Brewer / Gay
PF - Tolliver / Labissiere / House
C - Cousins / Cauley-Stein / Papagiannis
2017-18 Roster:
PG - Wright / VanVleet
SG - Temple / Bogdanovic / Richardson
SF - Osman / Gay
PF - Cauley-Stein / Labissiere / Tolliver
C - Cousins / Papagiannis
*waive Afflalo, Brewer, & Barnes
**SAC 2017 1st, WAS 2017 1st, & HOU 2017 1st
2018-19 Roster:
PG - Wright
SG - Bogdanovic / Richardson
SF - Osman
PF - Cauley-Stein / Labissiere
C - Cousins / Papagiannis
*assuming Temple opts out for a bigger payday & Cousins signs his max extension
**SAC 2017 1st, WAS 2017 1st, HOU 2017 1st, SAC 2018 1st, & SAC 2018 2nd
***~$40 mil in cap space with these 13 players under contract
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I don't see any justification for the Cavs. IMO the last thing they want is another undersized point guard that gives them a defensive problem.
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I don't think Collison or Koufos are worth a 2017 !st. Maybe Portland would be willing to give up the Cavs pick for Koufos, but I can't imagine anybody would be willing to part with more than that.
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Can't see Cavs doing trade #1.
Trade #2 is fine if the Kings are ready to give up on no interest in Ben Mclemore.
Trade #3 seems fair enough to me.
I also like trade #4. Washington is a good place for Collison, and they aren't forced to give up too much for him.
Trade #5 is where I have an issue. I think Kosta Koufos is very over-rated here. Even top-20 protected, I can't imagine Charlotte giving up any picks for him. Hibbert is a cheaper, expiring contract who serves the same purpose Koufos would.
Trade #2 is fine if the Kings are ready to give up on no interest in Ben Mclemore.
Trade #3 seems fair enough to me.
I also like trade #4. Washington is a good place for Collison, and they aren't forced to give up too much for him.
Trade #5 is where I have an issue. I think Kosta Koufos is very over-rated here. Even top-20 protected, I can't imagine Charlotte giving up any picks for him. Hibbert is a cheaper, expiring contract who serves the same purpose Koufos would.
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trade 1: I don't think Lawson gets Osman. Osmans value appears to have appreciated since being drafted, so you are talking about a first round value for Lawson.
trade 2: plausible. Don't know who the other party is.
trade 3: Not sure raptors have a need for Casspi since they have Ross and Powell. I'd like to see Wright find a team where he might play though. Sac would qualify.
trade 4:I think collison is an expiring. don't think he merits a first.
trade 2: plausible. Don't know who the other party is.
trade 3: Not sure raptors have a need for Casspi since they have Ross and Powell. I'd like to see Wright find a team where he might play though. Sac would qualify.
trade 4:I think collison is an expiring. don't think he merits a first.
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2 firsts for Koufus? Wut.
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From Washington's perspective, a first for an expiring Point Guard that we almost surely can't afford to extend is just......very no.
If Collison was signed through 2019 at something around his current salary, that might be of note, but as is it's not gonna work.
If Collison was signed through 2019 at something around his current salary, that might be of note, but as is it's not gonna work.
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K_chile22 wrote:2 firsts for Koufus? Wut.
It's more like a 1st for taking on Brewer's contract and a 1st 3 years from now for Koufos.
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Wizards give up a first rounder for a 45 game rental of Collison, makes absolutely no sense.
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TheOUTLAW wrote:I don't see any justification for the Cavs. IMO the last thing they want is another undersized point guard that gives them a defensive problem.
I actually think he would fit in with the Cavs wonderfully. They need a playmaker and that is exactly what Lawson is. His identity as a defender is being pesky and staying in front of his man. He gets deflections occasionally and has good instincts. He does a pretty decent job of fighting through screens even though he is pretty small. The biggest downside for him is that he can't challenge shots as well as a bigger defender. He closes out well, but he normally doesn't keep his hand in the opponent's face when said opponent shoots. I believe he would be great on the Cavs. Check out some tape of him this year. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
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