Blockbuster! Stars on the move! PHI/PDX/SAC/CHI

[BuzzCity]

76ers trade - #3, #36, #39, Okafor, Henderson, Bayless
76ers get - CJ McCollum, Lopez, Aminu, Napier

PG- Simmons
SG- CJ
SF- Covington/Aminu
PF- Saric
C- Embiid/Lopez

76ers do this b/c: now is the perfect time to strike. Get a young bonafide star to pair up with the nucleus of Simmons and Embiid. Also add another solid big man in Lopez just in case Embiid's health becomes a factor again this year. Aminu gives you some cheap depth at SF. This would be a very fun team to watch this year!

Blazers trade- CJ McCollum, #15, #20, Napier
Blazers get- Butler, #10, Bayless

PG- Lillard/Bayless
SG- Butler/Crabbe
SF- Turner/Harkless
PF- Vonleh/#10
C- Nurkic

Blazers do this b/c: they need to solve the Lillard/CJ issue. While that duo is great on offense, their size hurts them on defense. Swap out CJ for Jimmy Butler. He will make up for the loss of CJ's scoring while providing better defense. With the log jam of wings, bringing back a familiar face in Bayless will shore up the backup PG spot. Exchanging the #15 and #20 for #10 allows them to hopefully get one of the top PF's in Isaac or Markkanen

Kings trade- #5, #10
Kings get- #3, #36, #39

Kings do this b/c: they are finally able to land their PG of the future! Whether it's Ball or Fox, either one would do wonders for this franchise. I's personally be pulling for Fox here. This dude is gunna be sick! Can't see him making it to 5 so they will have to trade up.

Bulls trade- Butler, Lopez
Bulls get- #5, #15, #20, Okafor, Henderson

Bulls do this b/c: rebuilding might be the smartest thing for them to do right now. Cash in right now in a deep draft while also adding a young Okafor who needs a fresh start. Getting outta Philly could do him some good.

[basketballwacko2]

I think if Jimmy Butler is traded it will be to a team where he can play SG.

[BuzzCity]

I think if Jimmy Butler is traded it will be to a team where he can play SG.

Ok that's fine...jimmy can play the 2 over Crabbe...and Turner plays the 3 over Harkless

[giberish]

I think if Jimmy Butler is traded it will be to a team where he can play SG.

Ok that's fine...jimmy can play the 2 over Crabbe...and Turner plays the 3 over Harkless

Harkless is better (IMO a lot better) then Turner though. Of course having Crabbe and Turner making $35M/yr or so off the bench is an issue. To me it would make more sense with Indy taking Turner rather than Aminu, with Portland adding more draft pick value (perhaps just sending #15 while keeping #20 and not getting #10).

I also don't see Sacramento doing this as they look to add two key guys, not just one.

[BuzzCity]

I think if Jimmy Butler is traded it will be to a team where he can play SG.

Ok that's fine...jimmy can play the 2 over Crabbe...and Turner plays the 3 over Harkless

Harkless is better (IMO a lot better) then Turner though. Of course having Crabbe and Turner making $35M/yr or so off the bench is an issue. To me it would make more sense with Indy taking Turner rather than Aminu, with Portland adding more draft pick value (perhaps just sending #15 while keeping #20 and not getting #10).

I also don't see Sacramento doing this as they look to add two key guys, not just one.

Indy? Do u mean Philly? If so, I was thinking about that...but that is a ton of salary coming back...and they already tried the Turner experiment once in Philly, not sure how either side would feel about a reunion.

[HartfordWhalers]

It looks like Butler is returning less than McCollum?

[BuzzCity]

It looks like Butler is returning less than McCollum?

It's essentially:

McCollum for Butler

And

Butler for #5, #15 and #20

Blazers are building for today, while Bulls are rebuilding in this hypothetical trade scenario...u think the return is really that different?

[rpa]

I've yet to see a single Kings fan that's remotely on board with 5 + 10 for 3.

[HartfordWhalers]

It looks like Butler is returning less than McCollum?

It's essentially:

McCollum for Butler

And

Butler for #5, #15 and #20

Blazers are building for today, while Bulls are rebuilding in this hypothetical trade scenario...u think the return is really that different?

Butler the player is enough better than McCollum the player that I would need to be convinced the return should be equal.

[giberish]

Ok that's fine...jimmy can play the 2 over Crabbe...and Turner plays the 3 over Harkless

Harkless is better (IMO a lot better) then Turner though. Of course having Crabbe and Turner making $35M/yr or so off the bench is an issue. To me it would make more sense with Indy taking Turner rather than Aminu, with Portland adding more draft pick value (perhaps just sending #15 while keeping #20 and not getting #10).

I also don't see Sacramento doing this as they look to add two key guys, not just one.

Indy? Do u mean Philly? If so, I was thinking about that...but that is a ton of salary coming back...and they already tried the Turner experiment once in Philly, not sure how either side would feel about a reunion.

Yeah, I meant Philly. Ideally there's some extra compensation to Philly for taking back Turner but aside from keeping their 2nds (since I don't see Sac on board at all anyway) I don't know where it comes from.

[BuzzCity]

Harkless is better (IMO a lot better) then Turner though. Of course having Crabbe and Turner making $35M/yr or so off the bench is an issue. To me it would make more sense with Indy taking Turner rather than Aminu, with Portland adding more draft pick value (perhaps just sending #15 while keeping #20 and not getting #10).

I also don't see Sacramento doing this as they look to add two key guys, not just one.

Indy? Do u mean Philly? If so, I was thinking about that...but that is a ton of salary coming back...and they already tried the Turner experiment once in Philly, not sure how either side would feel about a reunion.

Yeah, I meant Philly. Ideally there's some extra compensation to Philly for taking back Turner but aside from keeping their 2nds (since I don't see Sac on board at all anyway) I don't know where it comes from.

What u think if Philly kept their 2nd rounders and PDX sent their 26th pick to SAC since some ppl are saying the Kings need more in return?

[bleeds_purple]

Kings pass. I don't see a huge difference between 3 and 5 honestly. Assuming Ball and Fultz go top two I think we're happy taking any of Jackson, Tatum, and Fox. We need a PG and SF. Right now our picks are decently setup to accomplish that. After this trade, not so much.

[HornetJail]

I think everyone says no but Portland, who are making out like absolute bandits here, and I'm on the fence about Philly.

But really, look at what Portland gets here: 15, 20, Napier is roughly equal to 10, Bayless depending on what's available at 10 (Chicago and Denver did a trade with nearly those exact picks a few years back involving McDermott, Nurkic, and Harris). And there's no way McCollum gets swapped straight up for Butler.

I also think the Kings would rather have two picks in the lottery and increase their chances of hitting on a draft pick rather than trading up just 2 spots in a draft where 5 doesn't appear to be much of a step down from 3. I feel like the Kings keeping #10 and sending out a lesser piece might make this more fair but I don't think it's going to change anything for Chicago

[the_process]

This is a no for Philly and Chicago IMO.

[expatbayern]

Too many moving parts and no real reason for the Kings to be in this. Try simplifying to the core pieces and see how close they are for each team:

Portland sends CJ, 15, 20 for Butler
Philly sends 3 and Okafor for CJ
Chicago sends Butler for 3, 15, 20, and Okafor

Who says yes/no? As a PDX fan I'd be willing to go that high for Butler (but just barely, and that's the absolute most I'd offer). I think the Bulls would actually be better off taking CJ themselves, but if they want to go really young and fully rebuild that's a nice package. And CJ is the perfect fit for Philly to play off of Simmons and Embiid but it depends whether they're ready to start pushing for the playoffs or want to continue accumulating assets.

[youngcrev]

Too many moving parts and no real reason for the Kings to be in this. Try simplifying to the core pieces and see how close they are for each team:

Portland sends CJ, 15, 20 for Butler
Philly sends 3 and Okafor for CJ
Chicago sends Butler for 3, 15, 20, and Okafor

Who says yes/no? As a PDX fan I'd be willing to go that high for Butler (but just barely, and that's the absolute most I'd offer). I think the Bulls would actually be better off taking CJ themselves, but if they want to go really young and fully rebuild that's a nice package. And CJ is the perfect fit for Philly to play off of Simmons and Embiid but it depends whether they're ready to start pushing for the playoffs or want to continue accumulating assets.

I was about to post the same exact deal in response to the the OP. Removes the clutter and balances out the values better.

[Chino Athens]

Overall a pretty balanced trade idea.
If i were the Kings I'd do it,Fultz or Fox are going to be available and potentially great,Portland improves too.Chicago gets something but not as much for Buckets n RoLo,but Phi has no reason to rush.Still,a good idea for all teams.

[ChettheJet]

I don't see how the Bulls get 3 picks, in addition to their own at 16 and 2 players.

But,,, the Bulls will never go full rebuild. Do they resign Rondo, does Wade stay? Look at what you leave them with

Grant Payne #16
Valentine Henderson #20
Okafor Felicio
Portis #15
Zipser #5


that's a joke of a roster for 2-4 years

[bad knees]

Too many moving parts and no real reason for the Kings to be in this. Try simplifying to the core pieces and see how close they are for each team:

Portland sends CJ, 15, 20 for Butler
Philly sends 3 and Okafor for CJ
Chicago sends Butler for 3, 15, 20, and Okafor

Who says yes/no? As a PDX fan I'd be willing to go that high for Butler (but just barely, and that's the absolute most I'd offer). I think the Bulls would actually be better off taking CJ themselves, but if they want to go really young and fully rebuild that's a nice package. And CJ is the perfect fit for Philly to play off of Simmons and Embiid but it depends whether they're ready to start pushing for the playoffs or want to continue accumulating assets.

Kings like where they are, so I agree - they are out. Bulls have no interest in Okafor, but may be up for a full rebuild. Portland needs a backup PG after trading McCollum. Philly has a slew of picks to add to the deal. I suggest:

POR sends CJ, 15, 20 and 26 for Butler and Cam Payne
PHI sends 3, 36, 39, Sacto 2019 1st, Nets 2d round pick 2018, Sacto 2d round pick 2019 for CJ
CHI sends Jimmy and Payne for 3, 15, 20, 26, 36, 39, Sacto 2019 1st, Nets 2d round pick 2018, Sacto 2d round pick 2019

POR essentially trades CJ, 15 and 20 for Butler, and 26 for Cam Payne.

PHI gets the shooter they need in CJ, plus they get to keep Saric and the 2018 LAL 1st, plus they still have a bunch of second round picks.

CHI starts its rebuild with a lot of picks that they can use to go get the players they want.

[GutUNC]

Too many moving parts and no real reason for the Kings to be in this. Try simplifying to the core pieces and see how close they are for each team:

Portland sends CJ, 15, 20 for Butler
Philly sends 3 and Okafor for CJ
Chicago sends Butler for 3, 15, 20, and Okafor

Who says yes/no? As a PDX fan I'd be willing to go that high for Butler (but just barely, and that's the absolute most I'd offer). I think the Bulls would actually be better off taking CJ themselves, but if they want to go really young and fully rebuild that's a nice package. And CJ is the perfect fit for Philly to play off of Simmons and Embiid but it depends whether they're ready to start pushing for the playoffs or want to continue accumulating assets.

Kings like where they are, so I agree - they are out. Bulls have no interest in Okafor, but may be up for a full rebuild. Portland needs a backup PG after trading McCollum. Philly has a slew of picks to add to the deal. I suggest:

POR sends CJ, 15, 20 and 26 for Butler and Cam Payne
PHI sends 3, 36, 39, Sacto 2019 1st, Nets 2d round pick 2018, Sacto 2d round pick 2019 for CJ
CHI sends Jimmy and Payne for 3, 15, 20, 26, 36, 39, Sacto 2019 1st, Nets 2d round pick 2018, Sacto 2d round pick 2019

POR essentially trades CJ, 15 and 20 for Butler, and 26 for Cam Payne.

PHI gets the shooter they need in CJ, plus they get to keep Saric and the 2018 LAL 1st, plus they still have a bunch of second round picks.

CHI starts its rebuild with a lot of picks that they can use to go get the players they want.

I have no interest in adding the Laker pick or the Kings pick with #3 to get McCollum.