Paul George... possibility?

TodGre · Post #1 » by **TodGre** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:45 am

With Paul George basically stating he plans to leave Indy it appears that the Pacers are in situation to how we were with the Dwightmare. Is there any situation where we might try to trade for Paul George and reunite him with his old coach (Frank Vogel). Do we have enough assets to get it done and if so, would George possibly resign or are we looking at another Ibaka situation (half year rental). I've had a huge man crash on PG for years and he would fit perfectly on our roster and be the star we have all been looking for. Personally I think the Lakers may be best positioned to pull off this trade but they may not need to if he is going to sign there anyway. He said he preferred LA but that doesn't mean he isn't open to other options either.

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shadrock · Post #2 » by **shadrock** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:09 am

Depending on the weight we give to the Vogel factor, i would be open to it if we were able to not give up any major piece for him. A deal like Fournier, #25 and another piece would be the most id be willing to give up.

BadMofoPimp · Post #3 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:23 am

I think Paul George would command #6 and AG plus probably more like Vooch who is the 2nd best asset at the bare minimum. Other teams may offer more than that so anything less proposed here would not be enough in my opinion.

drsd · Post #4 » by **drsd** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:33 am

The Pacers could attempt to trade George to the Lakers a season early but their leverage would be limited. George's position that he wants to play for the Lakers has limited the Pacers' ability to trade him.

Deadcellz · Post #5 » by **Deadcellz** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:03 am

This shouldn't even be considered.....any player who'd rather play for the Lakers or any other team for that matter should not be a target.

PrimeThyme · Post #6 » by **PrimeThyme** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:22 am

Nope. Learned our lesson with serge. We will not be a good team next year, && we definitely won't be anywhere close to being a contender. We can't afford to take that risk and were not in position too. It would be a huge mistake. Pacers are asking for two firsts and a young asset. We can't afford to give that up for a year rental.

nicnac215 · Post #7 » by **nicnac215** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:47 am

We have no chance to offer a better package than Boston.

Mike1989 · Post #8 » by **Mike1989** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:53 am

TodGre wrote:With Paul George basically stating he plans to leave Indy it appears that the Pacers are in situation to how we were with the Dwightmare. Is there any situation where we might try to trade for Paul George and reunite him with his old coach (Frank Vogel). Do we have enough assets to get it done and if so, would George possibly resign or are we looking at another Ibaka situation (half year rental). I've had a huge man crash on PG for years and he would fit perfectly on our roster and be the star we have all been looking for. Personally I think the Lakers may be best positioned to pull off this trade but they may not need to if he is going to sign there anyway. He said he preferred LA but that doesn't mean he isn't open to other options either.

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In all likelihood it would be a one year rental unless he wants to play for Vogel again. I suspect he wants to go back to LA.

Another factor here is that even if we could pull it off, we aren't in a position to give up the assets required to make the trade and then put together a supporting cast for him. So it would essentially be PG plus the likes of Payton, Biyombo and co and that's not going to be any better than the Pacers were last year, and to be honest I might even give an edge to the Pacers.

For me, we need to continue our rebuild through the draft and hope we find a star. Then try to make moves to create enough cap space to pursue a difference maker in free agency. Paul George would be great in a Magic uni, but it's unrealistic that we can pull it off and that he would want to stay here.

JF5 · Post #9 » by **JF5** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:01 am

PrimeShaq wrote:Nope. Learned our lesson with serge. We will not be a good team next year, && we definitely won't be anywhere close to being a contender. We can't afford to take that risk and were not in position too. It would be a huge mistake. Pacers are asking for two firsts and a young asset. We can't afford to give that up for a year rental.

I never understood that logic with fans. I understand wanting to have a guy who you want to watch night in and night out, and/or gives a chance for their team to make the playoffs. But when your surrounding pieces are pretty baron and your Star rental has 1 more year left becomes a unrestricted free-agent, its pretty unlikely that player will stay on a sub par team unless there is a "hometown" incentive. We've see this time and time again with players over the years. Either they're dealt/let go or management is able to pair them with another star player. Most often the prior...

A team like ours just needs to rebuild before thinking about moves like this. This would only just push back the inevitable rebuild another year or so.

Skin · Post #10 » by **Skin** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:02 am

Yep. For Vuc and Fournier.

orlando1214 · Post #11 » by **orlando1214** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:18 am

Please no. I don't care if we have his former coach, George will not resign here. He wants to be in a big market or a contender, the Magic are neither. Even if the Magic could do a deal for him, which I doubt they could, the amount of assets they would need to give up would put this team back even more than they are now. If they want to go after George, wait until he is a free agent and go after him then. He won't sign here, but at least they won't give up any assets.

Furinkazan · Post #12 » by **Furinkazan** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:19 am

No not really.

Thats my answer to the title of this thread.Makes no sense for him or any team not named Lakers.Sure some good teams might try to trade for him in hope for sucess of changing his mind.We arent such team.We are miles away.

Orlando Tragic · Post #13 » by **Orlando Tragic** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:02 am

I hope this new management is not dumb enough to give up assets for another rental.

fullrespect · Post #14 » by **fullrespect** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:10 am

Dumb to even consider it. He'll bolt in no time.

tiderulz · Post #15 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:26 am

TodGre wrote:With Paul George basically stating he plans to leave Indy it appears that the Pacers are in situation to how we were with the Dwightmare. Is there any situation where we might try to trade for Paul George and reunite him with his old coach (Frank Vogel). Do we have enough assets to get it done and if so, would George possibly resign or are we looking at another Ibaka situation (half year rental). I've had a huge man crash on PG for years and he would fit perfectly on our roster and be the star we have all been looking for. Personally I think the Lakers may be best positioned to pull off this trade but they may not need to if he is going to sign there anyway. He said he preferred LA but that doesn't mean he isn't open to other options either.

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look at it objectively. Why would George re-sign here? we have a worse team than he has in Indy, he has zero ties to the team and area. He wants to go to LA, where he grew up, has family, etc. trading for George would be very dumb by this front office and would be a waste of assets.

tiderulz · Post #16 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:27 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:I think Paul George would command #6 and AG plus probably more like Vooch who is the 2nd best asset at the bare minimum. Other teams may offer more than that so anything less proposed here would not be enough in my opinion.

a normal PG trade might. When he has stated that he isnt staying and wants to go to LA, he wont command nearly that trade value

tiderulz · Post #17 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:30 am

drsd wrote:
The Pacers could attempt to trade George to the Lakers a season early but their leverage would be limited. George's position that he wants to play for the Lakers has limited the Pacers' ability to trade him.

sounds familiar doesnt it

rusoopE · Post #18 » by **rusoopE** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:46 am

Is this thread about trading a Point Guard? There is no point on trading for George

TodGre · Post #19 » by **TodGre** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:11 pm

I suspected the same thing as well and fear it wouldn't be a wise move either, but I did want to open the topic for discussion and get people thinking. Great thread y'all!

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darthcheech2000 · Post #20 » by **darthcheech2000** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:43 pm

I'm in the minority here, because I'd do it. One year or not.

#6, 25#, & Mario

for

18# & PG

Indy isn't getting much better then that now. Boston could beat that offer, easily, with #3 and their underused youth, but will they chance it?

We lose PG after a year, but we have a winning season and make the playoffs. That is something I think AG and Elfrid need and what do we lose for it? A big maybe at 6, a project at 25, and a horse.

Payton
Fournier
PG
AG
Vucevic