Political Roundtable Part XVI

[Wizardspride]

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Donald Jr mocking Franken....

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[Pointgod]

Should Doug Jones win on Tuesday the odds say no but the two biggest constituencies in Alabama are Born Again Christians 49% and Afro American 25% voters. It will come to turnout I think Doug Jones has done a good job of mobilizing the Democrats and would expect a higher than average turnout even higher than in a general election. While Republicans I can see a much smaller turnout. It get to that other 25% how they split between Democrats and Republicans. I'm a optimist think Jones will win by 4% but 530 has a good article on it and they disagree.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/doug-jones-is-just-a-normal-polling-error-away-from-a-win-in-alabama/

I doubt Jones can pull off the upset and it would be an upset, but it would be great to see Trump/Bannon and Moore take a loss. They are the lowest form of scum in politics and don't deserve any type success.

[Pointgod]

Donald Jr mocking Franken....

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Does he not realize his father is a rapist?

[I_Like_Dirt]

Profound disappointment as Al is a good Senator. At-least he didn't go the Republican Trump/Moore route of bold-face public lying about the accusations. I'm not sure about this Salem Witch trial-like atmosphere, he should have faced the voters.

Yeah, this is nothing at all like Salem, sorry. If anything, facing the voters is more like Salem, where mob mentality rules. To be honest, I think Democrats need to simply come to terms with this. You can like Michael Jackson's music while realizing that he wasn't necessarily an amazing person. Franken can be good at his job and also, well... yeah. It's a bit of a mess deciding whether or not that should be the tipping point between performing any particular job or not, but it is what it is. The standards for the Dems should be no different than for the Pubs with the likes of Moore and Trump. This really shouldn't be a my side vs yours kind of thing.

[Wizardspride]

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[cammac]

Grading Mitch's tax plan.

In 2012 Rep. Mark Takano was elected to represent the California’s 41st District. Prior to that he served the community for 20 years as a teacher. He took one look at Mitch McConnell’s tax scam pitch to voters and he got out the dreaded red pen, slicing and dicing the entire charade of a tax proposal.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/7/1722131/-Teacher-turned-Congressman-hilariously-grades-Mitch-McConnell-s-tax-scam-pitch-to-voters-FAIL

[closg00]

Should Doug Jones win on Tuesday the odds say no but the two biggest constituencies in Alabama are Born Again Christians 49% and Afro American 25% voters. It will come to turnout I think Doug Jones has done a good job of mobilizing the Democrats and would expect a higher than average turnout even higher than in a general election. While Republicans I can see a much smaller turnout. It get to that other 25% how they split between Democrats and Republicans. I'm a optimist think Jones will win by 4% but 530 has a good article on it and they disagree.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/doug-jones-is-just-a-normal-polling-error-away-from-a-win-in-alabama/

It won't even be close, voting Dem = supporting blacks in AL, Moore will win comfortably.

[Wizardspride]

Should Doug Jones win on Tuesday the odds say no but the two biggest constituencies in Alabama are Born Again Christians 49% and Afro American 25% voters. It will come to turnout I think Doug Jones has done a good job of mobilizing the Democrats and would expect a higher than average turnout even higher than in a general election. While Republicans I can see a much smaller turnout. It get to that other 25% how they split between Democrats and Republicans. I'm a optimist think Jones will win by 4% but 530 has a good article on it and they disagree.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/doug-jones-is-just-a-normal-polling-error-away-from-a-win-in-alabama/

It won't even be close, voting Dem = supporting blacks in AL, Moore will win comfortably.

I wish I could say you're wrong.....

[cammac]

Should Doug Jones win on Tuesday the odds say no but the two biggest constituencies in Alabama are Born Again Christians 49% and Afro American 25% voters. It will come to turnout I think Doug Jones has done a good job of mobilizing the Democrats and would expect a higher than average turnout even higher than in a general election. While Republicans I can see a much smaller turnout. It get to that other 25% how they split between Democrats and Republicans. I'm a optimist think Jones will win by 4% but 530 has a good article on it and they disagree.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/doug-jones-is-just-a-normal-polling-error-away-from-a-win-in-alabama/

It won't even be close, voting Dem = supporting blacks in AL, Moore will win comfortably.

You may very well be right! But I see a lot of Republicans staying home and a heavy turnout of blacks and Democrats again it depends on other Republicans and Independents.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/7/1722163/-Over-65-White-Voters-Breaking-for-Democrat-Doug-Jones-This-republican-voter-base-is-eroding-away

[Pointgod]

Should Doug Jones win on Tuesday the odds say no but the two biggest constituencies in Alabama are Born Again Christians 49% and Afro American 25% voters. It will come to turnout I think Doug Jones has done a good job of mobilizing the Democrats and would expect a higher than average turnout even higher than in a general election. While Republicans I can see a much smaller turnout. It get to that other 25% how they split between Democrats and Republicans. I'm a optimist think Jones will win by 4% but 530 has a good article on it and they disagree.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/doug-jones-is-just-a-normal-polling-error-away-from-a-win-in-alabama/

It won't even be close, voting Dem = supporting blacks in AL, Moore will win comfortably.

You may very well be right! But I see a lot of Republicans staying home and a heavy turnout of blacks and Democrats again it depends on other Republicans and Independents.

I think everyone can acknowledge it’s a Hail Mary if Jones wins, I’ve read that Alabama already has a low voter turnout and if Republicans really stay home(they might just be lying) and Jones can turn out the black vote (although I’m not sure how much voter suppression has depressed the vote) he has a chance for an upset.

[verbal8]

Profound disappointment as Al is a good Senator. At-least he didn't go the Republican Trump/Moore route of bold-face public lying about the accusations. I'm not sure about this Salem Witch trial-like atmosphere, he should have faced the voters.

Yeah, this is nothing at all like Salem, sorry. If anything, facing the voters is more like Salem, where mob mentality rules. To be honest, I think Democrats need to simply come to terms with this. You can like Michael Jackson's music while realizing that he wasn't necessarily an amazing person. Franken can be good at his job and also, well... yeah. It's a bit of a mess deciding whether or not that should be the tipping point between performing any particular job or not, but it is what it is. The standards for the Dems should be no different than for the Pubs with the likes of Moore and Trump. This really shouldn't be a my side vs yours kind of thing.

[cammac]

In response to a question from one of the only African Americans in the audience — who asked when Moore thought America was last “great” -- Moore acknowledged the nation’s history of racial divisions, but said: “I think it was great at the time when families were united -- even though we had slavery -- they cared for one another…. Our families were strong, our country had a direction.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/7/1722294/-Don-t-forget-Roy-Moore-thinks-the-last-time-America-was-great-was-when-we-had-slavery
https://www.politico.com/gallery/2017/12/04/december-2017-002733?slide=0
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/roy-moore-slavery-twitter-response_us_5a29d45be4b069ec48ac1aae

[Zonkerbl]

Donald Jr mocking Franken....

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Does he not realize his father is a rapist?

Keep chucking those stones, glass house resident...

[cammac]

Susan Collins was a hero to her constituents with her stand on Obamacare then with the Senate budget allowed herself to be played by Mitch McConnell. From people greeting her as a hero she now has people protesting outside her office in Maine.

But Speaker Paul Ryan has made clear he’s not bound by the deal, and there’s little urgency among House Republicans to do much of anything on health care before the end of the year. On Thursday, Republican Study Committee Chairman Mark Walker said conservatives received assurances that talks on a spending package to keep the government open won’t address Obamacare.

Senator Collins knows McConnell is a lying piece of crap yet she went along with it and knew the budget was basically a package for the uber rich and corporations. This goes against the express wishes of the people of Maine who just voted for expansion of Medicaid which is being stalled by Governor LaPage a Alt Right Demigod.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/08/susan-collins-obamacare-deal-213254

[cammac]

Charter Schools can be good but at the type DeVos pushes the new model? I'm a firm believer in a non secular public school system that gives equal opportunity to all.

Growing up in private evangelical Christian schools, Bishop saw the world in extremes, good and evil, heaven and hell. She was taught that to dance was to sin, that gay people were child molesters and that mental illness was a function of satanic influence. Teachers at her schools talked about slavery as black immigration, and instructors called environmentalists “hippie witches.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/school-voucher-evangelical-education-betsy-devos_us_5a021962e4b04e96f0c6093c

[Pointgod]

In response to a question from one of the only African Americans in the audience — who asked when Moore thought America was last “great” -- Moore acknowledged the nation’s history of racial divisions, but said: “I think it was great at the time when families were united -- even though we had slavery -- they cared for one another…. Our families were strong, our country had a direction.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/7/1722294/-Don-t-forget-Roy-Moore-thinks-the-last-time-America-was-great-was-when-we-had-slavery
https://www.politico.com/gallery/2017/12/04/december-2017-002733?slide=0
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/roy-moore-slavery-twitter-response_us_5a29d45be4b069ec48ac1aae

The Republicans sure know how to choose em.

[cammac]

In response to a question from one of the only African Americans in the audience — who asked when Moore thought America was last “great” -- Moore acknowledged the nation’s history of racial divisions, but said: “I think it was great at the time when families were united -- even though we had slavery -- they cared for one another…. Our families were strong, our country had a direction.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/7/1722294/-Don-t-forget-Roy-Moore-thinks-the-last-time-America-was-great-was-when-we-had-slavery
https://www.politico.com/gallery/2017/12/04/december-2017-002733?slide=0
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/roy-moore-slavery-twitter-response_us_5a29d45be4b069ec48ac1aae

The Republicans sure know how to choose em.

But,but,but ,but they are the party of Lincoln as they are so fond of saying.

[stilldropin20]

Hi everyone, how's it going today? hey remember that time when the Roy Moore accuser had a yearbook with his signature? and anyonewith half a brain could see the "7's" didn't match??

yeah, me too. She admitted to doctoring the year book. which makes her credibility complete garbage.



http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/08/moore-accuser-admits-the-yearbook-was-doctored/?utm_medium=push&utm_source=daily_caller&utm_campaign=push

[Wizardspride]

Hi everyone, how's it going today? hey remember that time when the Roy Moore accuser had a yearbook with his signature? and anyonewith half a brain could see the "7's" didn't match??

yeah, me too. She admitted to doctoring the year book. which makes her credibility complete garbage.



http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/08/moore-accuser-admits-the-yearbook-was-doctored/?utm_medium=push&utm_source=daily_caller&utm_campaign=push

Yeah. That does bring her credibility into question but let me correct you.

She isn't THE Roy Moore accuser. She's A Roy Moore accuser.

I think there's 4-5.