Thoughts on Lowlights

[mtron929]

For the longest time, you could find a player's highlights on youtube. I noticed that for Lonzo Ball, there are videos of his lowlights (e.g. missed shots, turnovers). Now, I am not sure if most NBA players have dedicated lowlights but cursory search indicates that this doesn't seem to be the case. So it seems like there is a Lonzo Ball hater that is creating these lowlight clips.

Now on one hand, I feel like these tapes are created with ill-intentions so it's not cool. But then again, I kind of appreciate this because I don't get to watch as many NBA games as I like and thus I only get highlights with some of the players. And especially with rookie/young players, only watching the highlights does not give me a good understanding of their games. And thus these lowlights are helpful/interesting even if they might be mean-spirited.

Thoughts? Yay or nay on lowlights?

[Side beard]

Search for Bootum Bootum on youtube.

[mtron929]

Search for Bootum Bootum on youtube.

Yeah, but this guy seems to spread his hatred. There is this user "Rub Ballers" who pretty much has all(?) the games of Lonzo Ball's lowlights on youtube.

[Dr Aki]

what's wrong with laughing at multi millionaires?

[WestGOAT]

Search for Bootum Bootum on youtube.

spread his hatred.

Please, if you don't like lowlights just don't watch it. No one is forcing you to watch "their hatred".

[NBAFan93]

They are fitting for ball cause he has such an insane amount of overproportional (and IMO un-earned) positive hype from the regular media. Dude makes a wide open 3 in a 20 point loss and it’s all over the NBA twitter like he made a game-winner in game 7...

A lot of Lonzo’s missed a shots are really funny too - if he wasn’t a rookie, he would serious Shaqtin’ potential. Like look at this sequence - you can’t tell me if any other player could get away w/ this stuff w/o being trashed:

Watch on YouTube

[RightToCensor]

I haven't watched many lowlights, but players impact the game in more ways than FGM and Assists counted. I'm sure lowlights are entertaining when watching players you hate.

[ItsMyPotPie]

I hope the guy who does them lowlights video gains happiness from his creations. I myself don't gain anything from people failing... No wait that's a lie I love watching fail army videos so whatever. You do you

[EmperorLocky]

I think it's fair enough. Can't have one and not the other. Highlights, lowlights and then some videos showing both with more in-depth analysis like 'Coach Nick'? Forget his youtube channel name.

That said I've seen plenty of lowlights that show made shots as well.

I mean no point going all Rudy Gay and banning lowlights.

[ken6199]

I think in general, people make highlights to appreciate beautiful basketball, while they make lowlights just to make a bit of fun. That's all fair.

What I am not okay with is, those lowlights videos will often get magnified out of context and misused by people who don't really understand basketball (or worse, out of hatred), and as a result it affects a player's public image and the player gets unfairly treated.

Nothing wrong with lowlights, but how it is being used can be an issue. Relatively speaking, highlight videos don't have this sort of issues as we hardly see a dunk compilation from a player and go "wow this guy is the goat dunker ever".

[naabzor]

Because we like to see people fail. Everyone wants Lonzo to fail maybe only in LA they care about him to do well, reasonably so. The guy was so overhiped that people got nauseated and everyone knows that this guy would be the bricks god but people just skipped on this saying that he would have been ok that he can shoot yada yada yada. So now it is normal that people keep mocking him with videos because everytime he play it is a brickfest.

[Side beard]

Search for Bootum Bootum on youtube.

Yeah, but this guy seems to spread his hatred. There is this user "Rub Ballers" who pretty much has all(?) the games of Lonzo Ball's lowlights on youtube.

There is no hatred from Bootum. If someone sucks on this one night, hell post a lowlight.

[DoubleLintendre]

I think you can learn way more about a player from his highlights than his lowlights. From a highlight you can see what a player is doing well, and still find something he can improve on.

Say if someone is scoring the exact same way over and over again, it could indicate he's a one-dimensional scorer. Or if a player scores tough shots over opponents you could gather he takes a lot of contested shots; maybe his game isn't sustainable once he cools down. It goes on and on.

But with lowlights, the cut is often designed to embarrass a player or present the player as a net negative, regardless of positive play or a win. This is entirely different than basketball breakdown videos, which are neutral in intent and provide some analysis with a constructive underlining.

If you think about it, lowlight videos are almost inherently stacked against the players of focus. If a player were really as bad as some videos make it seem, the player wouldn't be on the court at all. You wouldn't be able to churn out new videos every other week of a certified bench rider.

In that way, yeah, lowlights = funny & amusing (especially with the right cuts). But often not nearly as insightful as either breakdown vids or highlights.

[cl2117]

Shaqtin' a fool was basically based entirely around Javale Mcgee lowlights.

[og15]

If you look hard enough you can find them for a decent amount of players, it's either a player who is really frustrating fans with something like inconsistent play, etc or a player who just has someone that is a dedicated hater.

So just like highlights don't paint a proper picture since everyone is a superstar in highlights, lowlights obviously are the same. What would be nice though is if there were people who made performance mixes that included the players makes, misses, assists, turnovers, etc. Just to give people who can't watch that player very much a more comprehensive view of them. That would be a cool type of mix to make.

[cupcakesnake]

when draftexpress was doing extensive highlights and lowlights for prospects, it was a great way to imagine the ceiling and basement of every player.

it would be better if there was more lowlights, but because they're so few they're often misleading and when one of them gets some traction it leads to bloated overstated opinions among fans (James Harden defense lowlight video could have easily been made for Kobe, Russ and many stars).

I like specific film made for fans when it's pointing something interesting out. There's a youtube account called Nobody Touches Jordan that celebrates great defense (he's a big fan of Marion, MJ, Big Ben's Pistons, Sprewell, Hakeem, Kawhi, and random forgotten guys like Lindsay Hunter and PJ Brown), calls out undeserved defensive praise (multiple videos about Chris Paul and Lebron being overrated on that end), usually using matchup specific playoff footage. Stuff like that helps fans like us learn the game better.

[CptCanada]

For the longest time, you could find a player's highlights on youtube. I noticed that for Lonzo Ball, there are videos of his lowlights (e.g. missed shots, turnovers). Now, I am not sure if most NBA players have dedicated lowlights but cursory search indicates that this doesn't seem to be the case. So it seems like there is a Lonzo Ball hater that is creating these lowlight clips.

Now on one hand, I feel like these tapes are created with ill-intentions so it's not cool. But then again, I kind of appreciate this because I don't get to watch as many NBA games as I like and thus I only get highlights with some of the players. And especially with rookie/young players, only watching the highlights does not give me a good understanding of their games. And thus these lowlights are helpful/interesting even if they might be mean-spirited.

Thoughts? Yay or nay on lowlights?

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It happens all of the time with polarized figures or stars who go through slumps. Curry went through multiple 3 point droughts last season and there were loads of "brick" low light videos of him.

[CptCanada]

For the longest time, you could find a player's highlights on youtube. I noticed that for Lonzo Ball, there are videos of his lowlights (e.g. missed shots, turnovers). Now, I am not sure if most NBA players have dedicated lowlights but cursory search indicates that this doesn't seem to be the case. So it seems like there is a Lonzo Ball hater that is creating these lowlight clips.

Now on one hand, I feel like these tapes are created with ill-intentions so it's not cool. But then again, I kind of appreciate this because I don't get to watch as many NBA games as I like and thus I only get highlights with some of the players. And especially with rookie/young players, only watching the highlights does not give me a good understanding of their games. And thus these lowlights are helpful/interesting even if they might be mean-spirited.

Thoughts? Yay or nay on lowlights?

l
It happens all of the time with polarized figures or stars who go through slumps. Curry went through multiple 3 point droughts last season and there were loads of "brick" low light videos of him.

[CptCanada]

For the longest time, you could find a player's highlights on youtube. I noticed that for Lonzo Ball, there are videos of his lowlights (e.g. missed shots, turnovers). Now, I am not sure if most NBA players have dedicated lowlights but cursory search indicates that this doesn't seem to be the case. So it seems like there is a Lonzo Ball hater that is creating these lowlight clips.

Now on one hand, I feel like these tapes are created with ill-intentions so it's not cool. But then again, I kind of appreciate this because I don't get to watch as many NBA games as I like and thus I only get highlights with some of the players. And especially with rookie/young players, only watching the highlights does not give me a good understanding of their games. And thus these lowlights are helpful/interesting even if they might be mean-spirited.

Thoughts? Yay or nay on lowlights?

l
It happens all of the time with polarized figures or stars who go through slumps. Curry went through multiple 3 point droughts last season and there were loads of "brick" low light videos of him.

[Alatan]

If Lonzo Ball didint have this annoying fan base that proclaims him a basketball god that only they can see since they are real basketball experts that look past casual things as shooting and scoring, he wouldnt have such a huge hater base. Not to mention that they credit him with team success and blame his teammates for his bad individual play.

If only he played with better players he would have a million assists, they say, he is an amplifier, they say, yet they disregard that most of his assists are just regular passes that didnt create any advantage for his teammates. They also disregard that his lack of shooting, mid range game, finishing, and penetration makes their life much harder.

The only reason Lonzo is a starter in this league is that he turned out to be a pesky long defender. I bet that any backup point guard would have the exact same success with the LAL as Lonzo has now, if not better.

Lonzo is a pass only scrub and I enjoy every one oh his bricks i see.