Donaldson signs with Braves

bluerap23 · Post #1 » by **bluerap23** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:06 pm

Donaldson has signed a one year deal with Atlanta. AA makin moves.

phillipmike · Post #2 » by **phillipmike** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:57 pm

Both good deals for the Braves. McCann at 2M is solid.

Great deal for JD if you look at his situation today (not as a whole when he was offered 75M-90M in spring training) - never thought he would get anything close to 23M so good for both sides.

SharoneWright · Post #3 » by **SharoneWright** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:00 pm

Braves don't get a comp pick next year, right?

phillipmike · Post #4 » by **phillipmike** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:21 pm

SharoneWright wrote:Braves don't get a comp pick next year, right?

They can if they qualify him and he rejects and he signs elsewhere.

Lateral Quicks · Post #5 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:29 pm

Risky move for JD. Higher salary this year, but I'd think a larger dollar with lower AAV was on the table somewhere.

Post #6 » by **Schad** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:40 pm

It's possible but unlikely that Donaldson will get a contract sufficient to qualify for a comp pick; it'd need to be $50m+ for his ages 34-35 (or 36) season, and those deals are hard to come by unless he posts a monster season.

Life's tough for guys who reach the majors at a later age. If you follow a normal aging curve, you're never going to get that monster deal. And if your team has such a player, don't be in a rush to sign them to an extension that buys out free agent seasons.

phillipmike · Post #7 » by **phillipmike** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:46 pm

I didnt think there was a limit;

If the team was not a revenue sharing recipient or the free agent signed for less than $50MM guaranteed, the team will receive a compensatory pick after Competitive Balance Round B, which takes place just prior to the draft’s third round. (The Competitive Balance process itself underwent some changes in the new CBA.) This is essentially the “default” compensation for teams losing QO free agents, since most teams won’t meet either of the following two sets of criteria.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/08/offseason-primer-the-new-qualifying-offer-rules.html

dagger · Post #8 » by **dagger** » Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:50 am

Read on Twitter

manjusaka · Post #9 » by **manjusaka** » Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:46 am

the one year deal didn't workout for Bautista, let see if it work for Donaldson.

WaltFrazier · Post #10 » by **WaltFrazier** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:16 am

AA sticking it to the Jays, while Shapiro and Atkins keep running the Jays into mediocrity

Al_Oliver · Post #11 » by **Al_Oliver** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:03 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:AA sticking it to the Jays, while Shapiro and Atkins keep running the Jays into mediocrity

How so? The Jays didn't want Donaldson at anything approaching 1/23 million.
You know that is why they traded him, right? I think the qualifying offer would have been lower than the deal he got from Atlanta...

AA helped run this team into the ground, but no, let's only blame the current regime.

Skin Blues · Post #12 » by **Skin Blues** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:06 pm

QO would have been $17.9M, and Donaldson likely would have accepted it since if he declined, any potential suitors would have had to forfeit a pick to sign him. The Braves would have lost their 2nd pick in the draft plus $500K in international bonus money. I don't know if that int'l pool money is as valuable to them as it would be to other teams since they have spending restrictions for the next couple years due to cheating the system. But still, Donaldson would have been very likely to accept $17.9M to avoid testing the market with extra costs for any team that signed him.

So, yeah... the Jays didn't want Donaldson this year. I don't see how it's AA sticking it to them. It doesn't affect the Jays at all.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #13 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:38 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:AA sticking it to the Jays, while Shapiro and Atkins keep running the Jays into mediocrity

mediocre or cleaning up the mess that AA left?

i mean if the Jays are rebuilding - i expect mediocrity or less - doesn't matter who is captain of the ship. there was no way the players that AA picked up/signed would have lived up to their contracts and now the Jays are paying for it.

you're right, they mishandled some assets probably but to be honest, they wanted to sell tickets - injuries got in the way etc etc.

clean house and try again. sports are cyclical monsters

WaltFrazier · Post #14 » by **WaltFrazier** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:40 pm

Problem is it will be years, if ever, before they are competitive again in this division now the Sox and Yankees are back on track

Al_Oliver · Post #15 » by **Al_Oliver** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:04 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:Problem is it will be years, if ever, before they are competitive again in this division now the Sox and Yankees are back on track

Yankees maybe, but the Massholes' window won't be open for too long... they used a lot of prospect capital acquiring Sale and Kimbrel and they are already trying to dump salary this offseason. Add the fact that Betts and others will be free agents soon and they are not as well positioned past next season as the the Yankees