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Game Thread: Hawks @ Pacers -- 12/31

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Game Thread: Hawks @ Pacers -- 12/31 

Post#1 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:13 pm

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Pacers look to win fifth straight against Hawks

The fact that the Indiana Pacers are one of the hottest in the Eastern Conference right now is not necessarily surprising given their play all season.
The fact that the Pacers' New Year Eve's opponent is one of the other hottest is, though. Entering Monday's game, Atlanta (11-24) has won five of its last six games.

The Pacers (24-12) have won four games in a row and 11 of the past 13 games.

The Hawks' lone defeat in those six games was a 129-121 loss to visiting Indiana Wednesday.

"So many guys are contributing and doing great things," Atlanta's Vince Carter said.

One negative for the Hawks from the victory over Cleveland is they will be without guard Kent Bazemore for a while. Bazemore left Saturday's game in the third quarter with a right ankle injury. A magnetic resonance imaging test performed Sunday revealed a sprain. Bazemore is expected to miss at least two weeks.

Oladipo knows he is drawing more attention as the Pacers' top scorer.

"With great power comes great responsibility," he said.
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Re: Game Thread: Hawks @ Pacers -- 12/31 

Post#2 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:14 pm

Vic and Dom could have been ours. :nonono:

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Post#3 » by kg01 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:21 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Vic and Dom could have been ours. :nonono:


Really? How so?

I imagine we passed on Sabonis in the draft but was Oladipo ever available to us?
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Re: Game Thread: Hawks @ Pacers -- 12/31 

Post#4 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:39 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:Vic and Dom could have been ours. :nonono:


Really? How so?

I imagine we passed on Sabonis in the draft but was Oladipo ever available to us?



Oladipo and the draft rights to Sabonis were traded to OKC for expiring Serge Ibaka in summer 2016.

Reportedly, they had offered a similar (identical?) package to us for expiring Paul Millsap first.

This was after Hawks were rumored to have been in talks for a Teague - Oladipo trade earlier in the year...



But Budenholzer didn't view Victor as worth it, apparently. :roll:

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According to Kevin O’Connor of The Ringer, the Magic tried to trade for Atlanta Hawks forward Paul Millsap before they eventually pulled the trigger and traded for Serge Ibaka:

Orlando general manager Rob Hennigan has a long-standing infatuation with the star power forward: The team tried trading for Paul Millsap before the 2012–13 season, according to the Orlando Sentinel’s Josh Robbins. Then, they offered him the max in 2015, and Millsap said he was their “first priority.” A league source familiar with the matter told me the Magic made another trade push for Millsap last summer (these talks happened before the Victor Oladipo trade for Serge Ibaka on draft night, according to the source). Instead, the Magic landed Ibaka and Bismack Biyombo, two all-in moves made with the hopes of making the playoffs this season. It’s led to a current record of 16–23, but they’re still only 3.5 games back from the 8-seed. The Orlando Sentinel reported in November that the pressure to win means Hennigan’s seat “couldn’t be any hotter,” which aligns with what I’ve recently heard: The team is desperate to make the playoffs, and with pressure mounting on Hennigan, it seems reasonable that he could try, yet again, to cash-in some of his younger assets for a proven star like Millsap.
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Post#8 » by Spud2nique » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:19 pm

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Post#9 » by lethalweapon3 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:47 pm

Indiana, here they come! One of the hottest teams over the past six games is at Bankers Life Fieldhouse to close out 2018, Anno Dominique, and they’re awaiting tip-off against… the Indiana Pacers!

Indeed, the Pacers (24-12) have rattled off four straight victories, including a sound win in Atlanta against these Hawks (3:00 PM Eastern, Fox Sports Southeast and 92.9 FM in ATL, Fox Sports Indiana) this past Wednesday. On the other hand, of these two teams, only one has dropped a nail-biter at home to last place Cleveland in recent weeks.

Indy’s December 18 loss, 92-91 to the Cavs, was quite a hiccup, ending a seven-game win streak that included an impressive victory over the top-seeded Bucks. Perhaps the Pacers got caught looking ahead to the next day’s matchup, a 99-96 loss in Toronto where they managed just 11 points in the final frame and blew a 13-point fourth-quarter lead.

But Coach Nate McMillan’s crew has righted their ship, thumping the Nets, Wizards, Hawks and Pistons over the previous ten days to reach a season-best 12 games above the .500 mark. McMillan benefits from having a fully healthy roster, one that had two off-days prior to this game, and three more days off before embarking on a five-game Eastern road jaunt.

2018 All-Star guard and reigning Most Improved Player honoree Victor Oladipo missed nearly four weeks after injuring his knee early during Indiana’s 97-89 victory here over the then-struggling Hawks on November 17. Losing Oladipo made the need for teammates to step up their play more pressing than it was already. And Myles Turner has delivered.

Is Myles finally turning a corner? Turner remains the league’s leading shot blocker (2.8 BPG; 3.1 this month), but he is rounding out other elements to make himself a candidate for Eastern Conference Player of the Month. For one, Myles' 15.4 PPG for December includes a floor-spreading 46.9 3FG%.

Going the extra mile, Turner is making better efforts to secure defensive boards (22.7 D-Reb% per game this month, up from 16.5% previously), alleviating Domantas Sabonis (27.9 D-Reb%, 7th in NBA) and 2018 All-Defensive 1st Teamer Oladipo from the task of holding the fort. That has helped Indiana (NBA-best 102.0 D-Rating) grind opposing offenses to a halt. Illustrative of the Indiana’s improved supporting cast, Dipo mustered just seven points (2-for-9 FGs) last Friday here at the Fieldhouse, yet the Pacers trounced their division rival Pistons, 125-88.

Despite a weak perimeter shooting day (5-for-19 3FGs), Indiana's offense relied on scoring in the paint and around the elbows from Sabonis, Thaddeus Young, Bojan Bogdanovic and Turner (combined 30-for-40 2FGs). Aside from Victor, Indy’s starters were also careful with the ball, racking up 12 assists and just two turnovers while helping to hound ball-dominant Blake Griffin into seven turnovers of his own.

These Pacers don’t need to play at a slow pace to put themselves in position to win. Indiana has won 14 of 15 games when they have scored 110 points. Recent play earned Thaddeus Young (21 points and 3 steals @ ATL last Wednesday) Eastern Conference Player of the Week honors. When Oladipo (19.5 PPG, 42.8 FG%) gets bottled up, he can look to Bogdanovic (career-high 16.3 PPG; 46.0 3FG%, 6th in NBA) as a safety valve. Bojan is the sole Pacer, among those in heavy rotation, making more than 80 percent of his free throws, something that has been a problem for recent Hawk opponents.

Despite Atlanta’s winning ways of late, coach Lloyd Pierce’s rotations are sure to have a different look. Three customary starters are unlikely to suit up, with Kent Bazemore (ankle sprain) joining Taurean Prince on the injured list. After balling outta control (often, in a good way) lately, Baze’s weeks-long rehab will cut into the gains Atlanta (11-24) has been making with their halfcourt defensive units, as Prince’s eventual return is unlikely to stem the slide.

Pierce will turn to DeAndre’ Bembry (1.2 SPG), Justin Anderson (probable, fighting through illness) and rookie Kevin Huerter to produce more defensive stops, along with Saturday night's hero, Vince Carter (oldest player in NBA history to lead a team in scoring, 21 points on 7-for-11 FGs in 23 minutes vs. CLE). But look for the Hawks (3rd in bench PPG) to rely on Daniel Hamilton and Tyler Dorsey for more meaningful minutes as backcourt reserves. On offense, Bembry (38.5 FG%) will need to be more instinctive and less hesitant while reading defenses on the catch.

Upfront, with Dewayne Dedmon (sore knee) again doubtful, Alex Poythress returns after a one-day stint with Omari Spellman in Erie. No stranger to the Pacers as a two-way and converted-contract player here last season, Poythress hopes to offer more yeoman’s work to help Alex Len and John Collins narrow Indiana’s probable rebounding edge. Buoyed by Collins, Atlanta’s 32.9 O-Reb% leads the league in December.

Swifter reactions and off-ball movement from Trae Young’s supporting cast will keep Oladipo, Darren Collison and Cory Joseph from sinking their teeth into what Indiana (NBA East-high 19.7 points-per-48 off TOs) hopes will be a stagnant Atlanta offense. Keyed by sharp execution and assertive rebounding, a competitive 48-minute effort would leave the Hawks feeling, not just tasting, bubbly today in Indianapolis.

May your 2019 be the very best 20-anything-ever. Let’s Go Hawks!
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Re: Game Thread: Hawks @ Pacers -- 12/31 

Post#10 » by Spud2nique » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:12 pm

Nice game thread lw3! I just finished watching our first matchup last week vs Indy. These Pacers are no joke, both on paper and on court. They seem to run like a well oiled machine. Tough for a young team like Atlanta to get a win against a vet team with players that know their roles. I think they are a top 4 team in the east, you have sexy teams like the Sixers out there, but if the Pacers and Sixers were to match up in the playoffs, I’d put money on Indy. Also, did Bird know what he was doing when he orchestrated a roster that has two southpaws up front in Sabonis and Thad? Maaaan, I hate that Bird guy but he knows what to do at all levels..player, coach and GM ..damn u Larry.

I’d be pleasantly surprised if we win tonight. Tough one but let’s take it play by play like they do. Fundamentally sound. I almost feel like Budenholzer would be a better fit as Pacers coach than Bucks. Shout out to Mr. Sonic though on a wonderful job thus far!


Pacers 117
Hawk 102

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Post#13 » by macd-gm » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:06 pm

Hamilton? I guess they want Bembry for the second unit but still. What about Dorsey? I feel we will dig an early hole in this one.
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Post#14 » by Spud2nique » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:34 pm

macd-gm wrote:Hamilton? I guess they want Bembry for the second unit but still. What about Dorsey? I feel we will dig an early hole in this one.


Blowout win for Indy tonight. I rarely say this. Watch I’m wrong we win with a blowout now :lol:
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Post#15 » by lethalweapon3 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:54 pm

Great to see coach Nicki Collen filling in for Stinger today. RWTD!

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Post#16 » by hawkmanreturns » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:27 pm

The second unit is killing us. On BOTH ends.
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Post#18 » by lethalweapon3 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:09 pm

Buzzer-beater notwithstanding, solid first half! Huerter pulling out plums over there in the corner! Jeremy wuz robbed!

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Post#19 » by benhillboy » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:11 pm

F&@k me, the Hawks have to get up early to get a game in that I had no idea about. I turn on the radio and Steve is going crazy over Huerter’s threes and he seemingly wants to kill the officials crew chief for that missed goaltending. I love Coach Pierce frying these lamebrained refs.
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Post#20 » by bws94 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:42 pm

Refs are utter garbage this game. Turner is killing the team in this game, unlike last game where it was Sabonis.

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