statsman wrote:It would appear that the mods have given up.
The GSW board is nice and quiet all season but after this last game it seems to have become infested with cockroaches. I attribute it to the heatwave we've been experiencing.
Moderators: Sleepy51, Chris Porter's Hair, floppymoose
statsman wrote:It would appear that the mods have given up.
Jester_ wrote:Hot take: Moses Moody shows the potential to be a star/#2 option ala Lauri Markkanen. Both the eye test and the advanced stats show a player with extremely high slope.
Samurai wrote:East Bay Sports wrote:I don't think that Bob Myers, the trainers, teammates or anyone else rushed KD back. I think KD was the #1 person wanting him to come back from this.
Having said that, Myers and the trainers should have been the ADULT VOICE in the room to shut KD down. He kept repeating "they said it couldn't get worse" well BS. I called this **** happening from the time it was announced he would come back.
He shouldn't have been out there and everyone who played a role in deciding it was a good idea to rush him out there should take their slice of the blame.
Some reporting was that what could get worse was that the calf could completely tear, which obviously would take him out of the playoffs but wouldn't present a long-term risk since he'd be ready for next season. Kerr said he was told that there was no additional risk for an Achilles. Obviously any athlete is always at risk of tearing an Achilles, but that his calf injury would not make him any more susceptible to it. As a non-medical person, I can say "seems like it would since his calf injury was near the Achilles" but I would have to think the medical professionals researched this before clearing him.
The KnicksFix wrote:huh? he knows he forced him back, probably irked the medical staff to ok him back, he dodged a bullet with the first injury, it was just probably a partial tear and not that bad, but they still needed him to rest and not come back that fast
Frozzy wrote:This whole situation is a nightmare. People are really feeding into the "Myers is not sincere" narrative. And you know what? The organization may have **** up, Kerr & the staff not managing his minutes, the medical team not being cautious enough, and KD himself calling the shots etc.
But to say Bob Myers is insincere is borderline insane. It's actually depressing how influenced peoples opinions are from hacks like Shannon Sharpe. None of these people know the relationship between Bob Myers and our players. No clue at all. I'm seeing plantation owner analogies left and right and it's jarring. That's not this front office at all.
Also all the Raptors fans using this situation as a deflection for their fans cheering KD's injury. You're not any better than the fans cheering.
maternal85 wrote:So what happens now. I sure hope the warriors offer him the max in a few weeks.
maternal85 wrote:Frozzy wrote:This whole situation is a nightmare. People are really feeding into the "Myers is not sincere" narrative. And you know what? The organization may have **** up, Kerr & the staff not managing his minutes, the medical team not being cautious enough, and KD himself calling the shots etc.
But to say Bob Myers is insincere is borderline insane. It's actually depressing how influenced peoples opinions are from hacks like Shannon Sharpe. None of these people know the relationship between Bob Myers and our players. No clue at all. I'm seeing plantation owner analogies left and right and it's jarring. That's not this front office at all.
Also all the Raptors fans using this situation as a deflection for their fans cheering KD's injury. You're not any better than the fans cheering.
This isn't about raptor fans. Even the narrative that they cheered for an injured KD is false. This is about a young man who was clearly injured and was eventually bullied to go play. Because if he doesn't play, he'd received the Leonard hate. I'm sure Leonard is now sitting back saying "I told You". Nobody needs to watch espn or Sharpe to see how shady this all was. The world champs about to be eliminated, owners desperately wanting the 3 peat to increase the team value/equity, while having doctors on their payroll "clearing him". Reports coming out saying teammates are frustrates with him. Fans getting frustrated he's not playing, etc. Everyone wants to win that ring, and nobody including his teammates cared about his healthy. Now he torn his Achilles and can barely walk, everyone has sympathy for his injury ? And raptor fans have no class after an organization/fans did something so shady to one of their players?
Jester_ wrote:Hot take: Moses Moody shows the potential to be a star/#2 option ala Lauri Markkanen. Both the eye test and the advanced stats show a player with extremely high slope.
maternal85 wrote:Bob, warrior owners, and all the other majority white owners see the majority black players as their property. Basically it's like a plantation style system. Bob doesn't give a damn about Durant and never did. It was sad seeing his fake tears. They got the most they could get out of him. Like a plantation owner getting the most out of his slaves.
Warning given...no need to respond to this.
Jester_ wrote:Can we trade Draymond Green for Grayson Allen?
East Bay Sports wrote:maternal85 wrote:So what happens now. I sure hope the warriors offer him the max in a few weeks.
I think he stays and signs for 4-5 years whatever he's eligible for
Outside wrote:One criticism is that Kerr didn't manage his minutes and played him 12 of the first 14 minutes of the game, implying that playing him so much to start the game was a factor in causing the injury. One possibility to me is that playing him in continuous stretches was the plan because they didn't want him to sit and the have the calf tighten up.
People are making so many assumptions based on the unfortunate result, not on actual facts. It would be nice to hear Durant on the subject at some point, but everything I've heard from Kerr and Myers supports the notion that they handled this the best way they knew how.
thinkingwarriors wrote:maternal85 wrote:Frozzy wrote:This whole situation is a nightmare. People are really feeding into the "Myers is not sincere" narrative. And you know what? The organization may have **** up, Kerr & the staff not managing his minutes, the medical team not being cautious enough, and KD himself calling the shots etc.
But to say Bob Myers is insincere is borderline insane. It's actually depressing how influenced peoples opinions are from hacks like Shannon Sharpe. None of these people know the relationship between Bob Myers and our players. No clue at all. I'm seeing plantation owner analogies left and right and it's jarring. That's not this front office at all.
Also all the Raptors fans using this situation as a deflection for their fans cheering KD's injury. You're not any better than the fans cheering.
This isn't about raptor fans. Even the narrative that they cheered for an injured KD is false. This is about a young man who was clearly injured and was eventually bullied to go play. Because if he doesn't play, he'd received the Leonard hate. I'm sure Leonard is now sitting back saying "I told You". Nobody needs to watch espn or Sharpe to see how shady this all was. The world champs about to be eliminated, owners desperately wanting the 3 peat to increase the team value/equity, while having doctors on their payroll "clearing him". Reports coming out saying teammates are frustrates with him. Fans getting frustrated he's not playing, etc. Everyone wants to win that ring, and nobody including his teammates cared about his healthy. Now he torn his Achilles and can barely walk, everyone has sympathy for his injury ? And raptor fans have no class after an organization/fans did something so shady to one of their players?
I could imagine teammates urging him to play because they're the ones on the court and they will have the same mindset as KD as far as being desperate to play and compete and win.
But you have no reason to question our medical staff, FO or coaching staff. If there was any reason to believe from all the MRIs they did, and they did many, that his achilles was prone to tearing than there's no way the medical staff would have cleared him. I guarantee that KD has access to all the MRIs and they will be made available to legions of independent medical experts who will pore over them and give their opinion and it will either be pointed out that they missed something or they will be exonerated.
But to suggest that the organization did something untoward in clearing KD or pushing him to play is illogical, not grounded in any evidence and totally uncalled for. Do us Warriors fans a favor and stay the eff off our board with this slanderous garbage. Your idiotic pet theory is perfect for the cesspool that is the GB, I'm sure you'll find plenty of threads there to pollute.
maternal85 wrote:thinkingwarriors wrote:maternal85 wrote:
This isn't about raptor fans. Even the narrative that they cheered for an injured KD is false. This is about a young man who was clearly injured and was eventually bullied to go play. Because if he doesn't play, he'd received the Leonard hate. I'm sure Leonard is now sitting back saying "I told You". Nobody needs to watch espn or Sharpe to see how shady this all was. The world champs about to be eliminated, owners desperately wanting the 3 peat to increase the team value/equity, while having doctors on their payroll "clearing him". Reports coming out saying teammates are frustrates with him. Fans getting frustrated he's not playing, etc. Everyone wants to win that ring, and nobody including his teammates cared about his healthy. Now he torn his Achilles and can barely walk, everyone has sympathy for his injury ? And raptor fans have no class after an organization/fans did something so shady to one of their players?
I could imagine teammates urging him to play because they're the ones on the court and they will have the same mindset as KD as far as being desperate to play and compete and win.
But you have no reason to question our medical staff, FO or coaching staff. If there was any reason to believe from all the MRIs they did, and they did many, that his achilles was prone to tearing than there's no way the medical staff would have cleared him. I guarantee that KD has access to all the MRIs and they will be made available to legions of independent medical experts who will pore over them and give their opinion and it will either be pointed out that they missed something or they will be exonerated.
But to suggest that the organization did something untoward in clearing KD or pushing him to play is illogical, not grounded in any evidence and totally uncalled for. Do us Warriors fans a favor and stay the eff off our board with this slanderous garbage. Your idiotic pet theory is perfect for the cesspool that is the GB, I'm sure you'll find plenty of threads there to pollute.
It's called conflict of interest. It's not hard to believe doctors on a teams payroll who want to keep their jobs may start telling the higher ups what they want to hear. This is why for example police officers can't investigate themselves after a serious incident. The results "may" come out in their favour frequently . Leonard did the same thing. Got a second opinion which said the opposite of what the spurs doctors were saying. Surprise ? He decided to sit out and the whole world bashed him even after getting a 2nd opinion. Everyone just believed the spurs doctors ON THEIR PAYROLL. If KD did the same thing, got a 2nd opinion and sat out, the same bullies would have came out of the woods and bashed him. Everyone involved should admit their fault.
Jester_ wrote:Hot take: Moses Moody shows the potential to be a star/#2 option ala Lauri Markkanen. Both the eye test and the advanced stats show a player with extremely high slope.
likemycurryhot wrote:Given Kawhi’s injury history, his load management approach, the heavy minutes he’s played these playoffs, and his dragging his leg around for the past two weeks, I wonder if the Toronto franchise would get raked over the coals if he were to go down with a thigh injury? I tend to doubt it.
maternal85 wrote:Frozzy wrote:This whole situation is a nightmare. People are really feeding into the "Myers is not sincere" narrative. And you know what? The organization may have **** up, Kerr & the staff not managing his minutes, the medical team not being cautious enough, and KD himself calling the shots etc.
But to say Bob Myers is insincere is borderline insane. It's actually depressing how influenced peoples opinions are from hacks like Shannon Sharpe. None of these people know the relationship between Bob Myers and our players. No clue at all. I'm seeing plantation owner analogies left and right and it's jarring. That's not this front office at all.
Also all the Raptors fans using this situation as a deflection for their fans cheering KD's injury. You're not any better than the fans cheering.
This isn't about raptor fans. Even the narrative that they cheered for an injured KD is false. This is about a young man who was clearly injured and was eventually bullied to go play. Because if he doesn't play, he'd received the Leonard hate. I'm sure Leonard is now sitting back saying "I told You". Nobody needs to watch espn or Sharpe to see how shady this all was. The world champs about to be eliminated, owners desperately wanting the 3 peat to increase the team value/equity, while having doctors on their payroll "clearing him". Reports coming out saying teammates are frustrates with him. Fans getting frustrated he's not playing, etc. Everyone wants to win that ring, and nobody including his teammates cared about his healthy. Now he torn his Achilles and can barely walk, everyone has sympathy for his injury ? And raptor fans have no class after an organization/fans did something so shady to one of their players?
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