Denzel Valentine injury update thread

logical_art · Post #1 » by **logical_art** » Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:28 am

Please post any updates on his status here. I haven't seen any indication on whether he'll be ready for the season or not. I think he's a pretty useful rotation player, especially for a team that is hoping and praying that Chandler Hutchison is good enough to be the backup at SF.

Ayman78 · Post #2 » by **Ayman78** » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:16 am

Low key I feel like the Bulls management might be hoping Hutchison can be a starter to replace Otto Porter's salary.

But, Valentin should be ready for the start of the season.

JimmyJammer · Post #3 » by **JimmyJammer** » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:32 am

Ayman78 wrote:Low key I feel like the Bulls management might be hoping Hutchison can be a starter to replace Otto Porter's salary.

But, Valentin should be ready for the start of the season.

Hutchison is not starter material and he'll be lucky to be a rotation player in the league. Tony Snell was better and he is still struggling to have a real career in the league.

Indomitable · Post #4 » by **Indomitable** » Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:14 pm

Ayman78 wrote:Low key I feel like the Bulls management might be hoping Hutchison can be a starter to replace Otto Porter's salary.

Give me a break with this nonsense.

sco · Post #5 » by **sco** » Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:49 pm

Thanks for starting this!

I still am looking to see if he has 5-on-5 clearance from doctors?

logical_art · Post #6 » by **logical_art** » Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:37 pm

Ayman78 wrote:
But, Valentin should be ready for the start of the season.

Do you have a link?

transplant · Post #7 » by **transplant** » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:38 pm

logical_art wrote:
Ayman78 wrote:
But, Valentin should be ready for the start of the season.

Do you have a link?

Doubt it.

If anyone has anything credible that’s more recent than the July report that said Valentine wasn’t yet cleared for 5-on-5, I’d love to see it.

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sco · Post #8 » by **sco** » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:30 pm

transplant wrote:
logical_art wrote:
Ayman78 wrote:
But, Valentin should be ready for the start of the season.

Do you have a link?

Doubt it.

If anyone has anything credible that’s more recent than the July report that said Valentine wasn’t yet cleared for 5-on-5, I’d love to see it.

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Nothing? C'mon!

Ayman78 · Post #9 » by **Ayman78** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:57 am

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/2019076/denzel-valentine

This was July and there hasn't been any other updates. If there were serious setbacks there is a high probability it would have been reported.

Ayman78 · Post #10 » by **Ayman78** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:04 am

Indomitable wrote:
Ayman78 wrote:Low key I feel like the Bulls management might be hoping Hutchison can be a starter to replace Otto Porter's salary.

Give me a break with this nonsense.

I like Porter and hope he stays in Chicago, but Bulls management has often stated that they like to have cap flexibility. My statement was based upon cap implications of keeping Porter long term. Both Porter and Markkanen will be in contract extension territory in the summer of 2021. Both, will be starting at a negotiating point of at least 20 million dollars per year. And, the following summer Carter Jr. and Lavine will need to be extended as well.

madvillian · Post #11 » by **madvillian** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:32 am

Ayman78 wrote:
Indomitable wrote:
Ayman78 wrote:Low key I feel like the Bulls management might be hoping Hutchison can be a starter to replace Otto Porter's salary.

Give me a break with this nonsense.

I like Porter and hope he stays in Chicago, but Bulls management has often stated that they like to have cap flexibility. My statement was based upon cap implications of keeping Porter long term. Both Porter and Markkanen will be in contract extension territory in the summer of 2021. Both, will be starting at a negotiating point of at least 20 million dollars per year. And, the following summer Carter Jr. and Lavine will need to be extended as well.

then they would have just let jabari and bobby walk, instead of you know, trading for Porter. nobody is saying the bulls are a great management group but ffs.

JimmyJammer · Post #12 » by **JimmyJammer** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:31 am

Ayman78 wrote:
Indomitable wrote:
Ayman78 wrote:Low key I feel like the Bulls management might be hoping Hutchison can be a starter to replace Otto Porter's salary.

Give me a break with this nonsense.

I like Porter and hope he stays in Chicago, but Bulls management has often stated that they like to have cap flexibility. My statement was based upon cap implications of keeping Porter long term. Both Porter and Markkanen will be in contract extension territory in the summer of 2021. Both, will be starting at a negotiating point of at least 20 million dollars per year. And, the following summer Carter Jr. and Lavine will need to be extended as well.

The days of putting together crappy rosters and tanking for the best lottery odds are gone. We have had cap flexibility for quite some time but with nothing to show for it, making the prospect of having a competitive roster out there even more relevant. If you are not signing big-time free agents and you are not facilitating trades, you might as well allocate your funds to sign second and third tiers players, on short-term contracts, who can at least help you make the playoffs. Having said that, I think it would be wise to try to negotiate a new and fiscally responsible contract with Porter if he continues to be effective, even after resigning Lauri.

sco · Post #13 » by **sco** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:13 pm

Ayman78 wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/2019076/denzel-valentine

This was July and there hasn't been any other updates. If there were serious setbacks there is a high probability it would have been reported.

Great find!

I doubt we hear any more about his status until Media Day in a couple weeks. Rooting for good news!

samwana · Post #14 » by **samwana** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:25 pm

sco wrote:
Ayman78 wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/2019076/denzel-valentine

This was July and there hasn't been any other updates. If there were serious setbacks there is a high probability it would have been reported.

Great find!

I doubt we hear any more about his status until Media Day in a couple weeks. Rooting for good news!

Btw Media day, when is this wonderful end of the off season day? I can't wait.

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rtblues · Post #15 » by **rtblues** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:19 pm

It's a "lower body injury" and he's day-to-day... :lol:

Post #16 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:37 pm

From 3 days ago. No words on him but if he is playing or scrimmaging, hes probably on schedule.

madvillian · Post #17 » by **madvillian** » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:51 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:

From 3 days ago. No words on him but if he is playing or scrimmaging, hes probably on schedule.

He looks really thin. Which could help him.

sco · Post #18 » by **sco** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:17 pm

Saw this today:

The last time we saw Valentine healthy, he averaged a modest 10.2 points on 42% shooting and 38.6% from deep for a tanking Bulls team. He added 5.1 rebounds and 3.2 assists, solid counting numbers for the former first-round pick. He's expected to be ready for training camp.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bulls-player-preview-healthy-denzel-163326586.html

TeamMan · Post #19 » by **TeamMan** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:42 pm

sco wrote:Saw this today:

The last time we saw Valentine healthy, he averaged a modest 10.2 points on 42% shooting and 38.6% from deep for a tanking Bulls team. He added 5.1 rebounds and 3.2 assists, solid counting numbers for the former first-round pick. He's expected to be ready for training camp.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bulls-player-preview-healthy-denzel-163326586.html

Expectations for this year's role

Whatever he can give the Bulls. The front office addressed the point guard and power forward depth this summer but did very little on the wing. Perhaps it was because they couldn't improve every aspect of the roster, or perhaps they're expecting to get production from Valentine after he missed all of last season. With Chandler Hutchison nursing a hamstring injury, Valentine could have a path to early minutes behind Otto Porter at small forward. More realistic is Valentine seeing minutes at shooting guard, where he'll be taxed less defensively and can focus as a perimeter shooter.

The news about Hutchinson is important and could be critical.

Hamstring injuries can be difficult to recover from, and the biggest impact is on defense.

This opens the door for Valentine to step in early and show if he's recovered.

PaKii94 · Post #20 » by **PaKii94** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:55 pm

TeamMan wrote:
sco wrote:Saw this today:

The last time we saw Valentine healthy, he averaged a modest 10.2 points on 42% shooting and 38.6% from deep for a tanking Bulls team. He added 5.1 rebounds and 3.2 assists, solid counting numbers for the former first-round pick. He's expected to be ready for training camp.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bulls-player-preview-healthy-denzel-163326586.html

Expectations for this year's role

Whatever he can give the Bulls. The front office addressed the point guard and power forward depth this summer but did very little on the wing. Perhaps it was because they couldn't improve every aspect of the roster, or perhaps they're expecting to get production from Valentine after he missed all of last season. With Chandler Hutchison nursing a hamstring injury, Valentine could have a path to early minutes behind Otto Porter at small forward. More realistic is Valentine seeing minutes at shooting guard, where he'll be taxed less defensively and can focus as a perimeter shooter.

The news about Hutchinson is important and could be critical.

Hamstring injuries can be difficult to recover from, and the biggest impact is on defense.

This opens the door for Valentine to step in early and show if he's recovered.

Hamstring injuries are definitely concerning but this isn't new news re hutch