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Top 10 Non-PG/SG Passers of All-time

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Top 10 Non-PG/SG Passers of All-time 

Post#1 » by Ritzo » Sun Jun 7, 2020 3:05 pm

1. LeBron
2. Bird
3. Jokic
4. Donkey
5. Grant Hill
6. Webber
7. Odom
8. A. Sabonis
9. Noah
10. Turkoglu
Honorable mentions: Diaw, Gasol brothers

Who's your top 10 of all-time?
Either your top 10 best or top 10 favorite.
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Post#2 » by jokeboy86 » Sun Jun 7, 2020 3:08 pm

Ritzo wrote:1. LeBron
2. Bird
3. Jokic
4. Donkey
5. Grant Hill
6. Webber
7. Odom
8. A. Sabonis
9. Noah
10. Turkoglu
Honorable mentions: Diaw, Gasol brothers

Who's your top 10 of all-time?
Either your top 10 best or top 10 favorite.


Don't forget Bill Walton who's been called the greatest passing big man of all time.
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Post#3 » by CarMalone » Sun Jun 7, 2020 3:13 pm

Wes Unseld, Dave Cowens, Pippen, Garnett should be in the discussion.
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Post#4 » by PMONSTER » Sun Jun 7, 2020 3:24 pm

Ritzo wrote:1. LeBron
2. Bird
3. Jokic
4. Donkey
5. Grant Hill
6. Webber
7. Odom
8. A. Sabonis
9. Noah
10. Turkoglu
Honorable mentions: Diaw, Gasol brothers

Who's your top 10 of all-time?
Either your top 10 best or top 10 favorite.


I like this thread

I will say that Garnett needs to be somewhere in the top 10.
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Re: Top 10 Non-PG/SG Passers of All-time 

Post#5 » by Mylie10 » Sun Jun 7, 2020 3:31 pm

Ritzo wrote:1. LeBron
2. Bird
3. Jokic
4. Donkey
5. Grant Hill
6. Webber
7. Odom
8. A. Sabonis
9. Noah
10. Turkoglu
Honorable mentions: Diaw, Gasol brothers

Who's your top 10 of all-time?
Either your top 10 best or top 10 favorite.


No specific order;

Sabonis
Webber
Bird
Anthony Mason
Draymond
Bogut
Lebron
Kukoc
Odom
Billy Owens
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Post#6 » by xdrta+ » Sun Jun 7, 2020 3:36 pm

Rick Barry should be on the list. A great passer.
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Post#7 » by The_Hater » Sun Jun 7, 2020 5:23 pm

Ritzo wrote:1. LeBron
2. Bird
3. Jokic
4. Donkey
5. Grant Hill
6. Webber
7. Odom
8. A. Sabonis
9. Noah
10. Turkoglu
Honorable mentions: Diaw, Gasol brothers

Who's your top 10 of all-time?
Either your top 10 best or top 10 favorite.


Good list although I wouldn’t have Noah or Turk on it. Both were very good passers but far from elite imo. Diaw is clearly better than both as is Marc Gasol.

Is Simmons a PG or not? Harden. Pippen. Ginobili is underrated. Blake Griffin. Garnett. Draymond. Giannis is fantastic. Wade. Jordan. Bill Walton. Iguodala.
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Post#8 » by Amare_1_Knicks » Sun Jun 7, 2020 5:29 pm

The_Hater wrote:
Ritzo wrote:1. LeBron
2. Bird
3. Jokic
4. Donkey
5. Grant Hill
6. Webber
7. Odom
8. A. Sabonis
9. Noah
10. Turkoglu
Honorable mentions: Diaw, Gasol brothers

Who's your top 10 of all-time?
Either your top 10 best or top 10 favorite.


Good list although I wouldn’t have Noah or Turk on it. Both were very good passers but far from elite imo. Diaw is clearly better than both as is Marc Gasol.

Is Simmons a PG or not? Harden. Pippen. Ginobili is underrated. Blake Griffin. Garnett. Draymond. Giannis is fantastic. Wade. Jordan. Bill Walton. Iguodala.


Not some bad mentions there, but a lot of those guys were shooting guards so they don’t fit the criteria of the thread (Ginobili, Wade, MJ, and Simmons is a PG). Pippen and Garnett would be in my top 10.
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Post#9 » by The_Hater » Sun Jun 7, 2020 5:32 pm

Amare_1_Knicks wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Ritzo wrote:1. LeBron
2. Bird
3. Jokic
4. Donkey
5. Grant Hill
6. Webber
7. Odom
8. A. Sabonis
9. Noah
10. Turkoglu
Honorable mentions: Diaw, Gasol brothers

Who's your top 10 of all-time?
Either your top 10 best or top 10 favorite.


Good list although I wouldn’t have Noah or Turk on it. Both were very good passers but far from elite imo. Diaw is clearly better than both as is Marc Gasol.

Is Simmons a PG or not? Harden. Pippen. Ginobili is underrated. Blake Griffin. Garnett. Draymond. Giannis is fantastic. Wade. Jordan. Bill Walton. Iguodala.


Not some bad mentions there, but a lot of those guys were shooting guards so they don’t fit the criteria of the thread (Ginobili, Wade, MJ, and Simmons is a PG). Pippen and Garnett would be in my top 10.


Missed the non SG part. Lol.

Anthony Mason is a forgotten PF/SF who deserves a mention.
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Post#10 » by Air Apparent » Sun Jun 7, 2020 5:36 pm

shaq was a really good passer too in terms of having great vision and finding players, though i guess his passes were mostly out of the post/double teams, he wasnt creating space like the others on that list by ball-handling and beating defenders
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Post#11 » by carlquincy » Sun Jun 7, 2020 5:49 pm

Karl Malone is a really good passer. Divac as well
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Post#12 » by Ckay » Sun Jun 7, 2020 5:57 pm

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Post#13 » by jinxed » Sun Jun 7, 2020 7:23 pm

Ritzo wrote:1. LeBron
2. Bird
3. Jokic
4. Donkey
5. Grant Hill
6. Webber
7. Odom
8. A. Sabonis
9. Noah
10. Turkoglu
Honorable mentions: Diaw, Gasol brothers

Who's your top 10 of all-time?
Either your top 10 best or top 10 favorite.


Who is Donkey? Do you mean Doncic?
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Post#14 » by Lost Angel » Sun Jun 7, 2020 7:46 pm

gotta give some love to Vlade Divac as well here.
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Post#15 » by DonaldSanders » Sun Jun 7, 2020 7:55 pm

Nowhere near the top 10 (not even top 200), but Andrew Bogut comes to mind as an underrated big man passer. The Warriors first championship had him making an insane amount of passes, I really miss that offense. It's crazy when you look at his stats how few APG he had that year, tons of the offense flowed through him.
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Post#16 » by Ritzo » Sun Jun 7, 2020 8:05 pm

jinxed wrote:
Who is Donkey? Do you mean Doncic?


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Post#17 » by Ritzo » Sun Jun 7, 2020 8:08 pm

PMONSTER wrote:
Ritzo wrote:1. LeBron
2. Bird
3. Jokic
4. Donkey
5. Grant Hill
6. Webber
7. Odom
8. A. Sabonis
9. Noah
10. Turkoglu
Honorable mentions: Diaw, Gasol brothers

Who's your top 10 of all-time?
Either your top 10 best or top 10 favorite.


I like this thread

I will say that Garnett needs to be somewhere in the top 10.


Damn, how did I miss KG.
Definitely one of the best.
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Re: Top 10 Non-PG/SG Passers of All-time 

Post#18 » by Optms » Sun Jun 7, 2020 8:08 pm

Both Divac and Webber have to be on their somewhere. Not sure which one is better but both killed defenses with precise passing. Hedo Turkoglu as well but I'm not sure he's top 10.
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Post#19 » by szkorhetz » Sun Jun 7, 2020 8:10 pm

What about Boris Diaw?
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Post#20 » by Duffman100 » Sun Jun 7, 2020 8:18 pm

Where is Divac??

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