[GSW - OKC] Gallo to GSW

[babyjax13]

The basic idea of adding Gallo to Golden State was proposed on Locked on NBA, and I think it's actually a pretty great idea.

Golden State trades: 2021 GSW 1st, 2021 MIN 2nd, 2022 TOR 2nd, Jordan Poole
OKC trades: Danilo Gallinari [into TPE], Mike Muscala

Golden State adds a fake Durant who can be the perfect tertiary scorer for them, and a C/F who can shoot off the bench. OKC gets a first round pick, takes a shot at Poole who had a nice little stretch to end what was otherwise an atrocious rookie year, and gets some 2nd round picks that might be decent.

[babyjax13]

And yes, Golden State gets hard capped. I don't think that's as big a deal if this is their last move of the offseason and they want to keep their lottery picks.

[gswhoops]

And yes, Golden State gets hard capped. I don't think that's as big a deal if this is their last move of the offseason and they want to keep their lottery picks.

How much do you envision Gallo is making in this scenario? Because right now we're $10 million over the apron (assuming it stays at $139M) before signing Gallo or the #2 pick...

[Godaddycurse]

And yes, Golden State gets hard capped. I don't think that's as big a deal if this is their last move of the offseason and they want to keep their lottery picks.

How is this not a big deal when they are well over the apron?

[loserX]

And yes, Golden State gets hard capped. I don't think that's as big a deal if this is their last move of the offseason and they want to keep their lottery picks.

Golden State would exceed the apron just by taking Gallo. They're at $140M on guaranteed contracts alone, and that's if they waive everyone unguaranteed. They then get hit with roster holds and the salary for #2.

It just can't be done unless Wiggins goes out.

[babyjax13]

Yup, wasn't thinking about the apron, this obviously doesn't work. Too bad, he'd be a nice fit. The only way to seemingly make this work is if OKC is motivated to do a pick swap to take on Wiggins. e.g. Wiggins+2021 GSW 1st+swap 2021 MIN/OKC 1st (if MIN higher) for Gallo + ???

[Buzzard]

Yup, wasn't thinking about the apron, this obviously doesn't work. Too bad, he'd be a nice fit. The only way to seemingly make this work is if OKC is motivated to do a pick swap to take on Wiggins. e.g. Wiggins+2021 GSW 1st+swap 2021 MIN/OKC 1st (if MIN higher) for Gallo + ???

I think anyone taking on Wiggins and sending positive value back will want both this years pick and Minny's pick. There might be a sucker out there who will take Wiggins straight into cap for just one of those picks. I would not count the Hawks as one of those suckers.

[cjmcallist]

Yup, wasn't thinking about the apron, this obviously doesn't work. Too bad, he'd be a nice fit. The only way to seemingly make this work is if OKC is motivated to do a pick swap to take on Wiggins. e.g. Wiggins+2021 GSW 1st+swap 2021 MIN/OKC 1st (if MIN higher) for Gallo + ???

If rumors are true, OKC might be willing to take on Wiggins for the #2 pick.

Not sure if GSW want to do that. But, Gallo would kill it there.

[Balkman32]

I think the FRP would be enough for the S&T assistance for Gallo.

The Thunder are willing to take on Wiggins for the #2 pick? I am guessing Rubio and Green go to GSW. The Thunder might need more to take on Wiggins. Like the 2021 Min 1st should be included with Wiggins.

Wiggins to the Thunder, Rockets, or Pelicans with draft assets attached just seems like it will occur at some point.

[Dadouv47]

Not optimistic about a Gallo S&T so a FRP would be fine.

No idea about those OKC/GSW rumors but looks to me that Gs isn't willing to trade N°2 and no team has interrest in our late FRP's

[gswhoops]

I think the FRP would be enough for the S&T assistance for Gallo.

The Thunder are willing to take on Wiggins for the #2 pick? I am guessing Rubio and Green go to GSW. The Thunder might need more to take on Wiggins. Like the 2021 Min 1st should be included with Wiggins.

Wiggins to the Thunder, Rockets, or Pelicans with draft assets attached just seems like it will occur at some point.

I see the logic, but it would really be in the opposite direction of the way our FO has historically operated to spend assets to dump Wiggins. I don't think it's all that likely unless it's part of a bigger deal.

[Balkman32]

I think the FRP would be enough for the S&T assistance for Gallo.

The Thunder are willing to take on Wiggins for the #2 pick? I am guessing Rubio and Green go to GSW. The Thunder might need more to take on Wiggins. Like the 2021 Min 1st should be included with Wiggins.

Wiggins to the Thunder, Rockets, or Pelicans with draft assets attached just seems like it will occur at some point.

I see the logic, but it would really be in the opposite direction of the way our FO has historically operated to spend assets to dump Wiggins. I don't think it's all that likely unless it's part of a bigger deal.

Ahh - ok - Do you see them selecting tomorrow night?

I guess I understand the Weisman pick and if he turns out elite its a prefect fit. But, then I feel like he could take away from Dray. But, with the league really moving to a single big and Wiggins just being Wiggins who are you playing with when you have one of Dray and Weisman on the floor?

The Warriors were great because of their numbers. They had AI and Livingston coming off the bench. Whos coming off the bench and playing those difficult minutes and finishing games with the big, Klay & Steph??

[gswhoops]

I think the FRP would be enough for the S&T assistance for Gallo.

The Thunder are willing to take on Wiggins for the #2 pick? I am guessing Rubio and Green go to GSW. The Thunder might need more to take on Wiggins. Like the 2021 Min 1st should be included with Wiggins.

Wiggins to the Thunder, Rockets, or Pelicans with draft assets attached just seems like it will occur at some point.

I see the logic, but it would really be in the opposite direction of the way our FO has historically operated to spend assets to dump Wiggins. I don't think it's all that likely unless it's part of a bigger deal.

Ahh - ok - Do you see them selecting tomorrow night?

I guess I understand the Weisman pick and if he turns out elite its a prefect fit. But, then I feel like he could take away from Dray. But, with the league really moving to a single big and Wiggins just being Wiggins who are you playing with when you have one of Dray and Weisman on the floor?

The Warriors were great because of their numbers. They had AI and Livingston coming off the bench. Whos coming off the bench and playing those difficult minutes and finishing games with the big, Klay & Steph??

This is all just reading tea leaves, so take it with a grain of salt...

Right now? I think they stay put and take Edwards or Wiseman (in that order), with an outside chance they pick Avdija over Wiseman. I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't one of those three unless they move down (which I think is less likely than most people assume).

If Wiseman is the pick, I suspect his role will be limited in the first year to basically the role that JaVale and Chriss have played for us in years past - run the floor, protect the rim, finish lobs/putbacks. Probably only a 20 mpg player. I think they would really prefer Edwards to fall and use the tax MLE to find a veteran big, but that seems unlikely unless Minnesota trades the pick.

I'm honestly not sure how the rest of the roster will flesh out. Myers has been confident (some might say overly confident...) in the FO's ability to find contributors with the MLE and minimum ring chasers. If Wiseman is the pick, I suspect they'll try and add a rotation-level wing with the MLE (Jae Crowder is certainly a commonly mentioned name, but I think every contender thinks they're signing him with the MLE so who knows). Would love to see Joey open up the wallet and spend the MLE to bring in another top-7 rotation guy but I'm pessimistic about that.

I'm on the more pessimistic end of GS fans about this offseason though, TBH. I'd be semi-surprised if they did much more than spend the pick, sign someone appropriate with the MLE, and fill out the rest of the roster with vet min ring chasers, which definitely leaves us looking up at LA/LA and possibly Denver in the West.

[Balkman32]

I see the logic, but it would really be in the opposite direction of the way our FO has historically operated to spend assets to dump Wiggins. I don't think it's all that likely unless it's part of a bigger deal.

Ahh - ok - Do you see them selecting tomorrow night?

I guess I understand the Weisman pick and if he turns out elite its a prefect fit. But, then I feel like he could take away from Dray. But, with the league really moving to a single big and Wiggins just being Wiggins who are you playing with when you have one of Dray and Weisman on the floor?

The Warriors were great because of their numbers. They had AI and Livingston coming off the bench. Whos coming off the bench and playing those difficult minutes and finishing games with the big, Klay & Steph??

This is all just reading tea leaves, so take it with a grain of salt...

Right now? I think they stay put and take Edwards or Wiseman (in that order), with an outside chance they pick Avdija over Wiseman. I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't one of those three unless they move down (which I think is less likely than most people assume).

If Wiseman is the pick, I suspect his role will be limited in the first year to basically the role that JaVale and Chriss have played for us in years past - run the floor, protect the rim, finish lobs/putbacks. Probably only a 20 mpg player. I think they would really prefer Edwards to fall and use the tax MLE to find a veteran big, but that seems unlikely unless Minnesota trades the pick.

I'm honestly not sure how the rest of the roster will flesh out. Myers has been confident (some might say overly confident...) in the FO's ability to find contributors with the MLE and minimum ring chasers. If Wiseman is the pick, I suspect they'll try and add a rotation-level wing with the MLE (Jae Crowder is certainly a commonly mentioned name, but I think every contender thinks they're signing him with the MLE so who knows). Would love to see Joey open up the wallet and spend the MLE to bring in another top-7 rotation guy but I'm pessimistic about that.

I'm on the more pessimistic end of GS fans about this offseason though, TBH. I'd be semi-surprised if they did much more than spend the pick, sign someone appropriate with the MLE, and fill out the rest of the roster with vet min ring chasers, which definitely leaves us looking up at LA/LA and possibly Denver in the West.

Will they let the TPE expire? Since MIA has Crowders bird rights I would expect them to be able to out bid anyone for his services.

[gswhoops]

Ahh - ok - Do you see them selecting tomorrow night?

I guess I understand the Weisman pick and if he turns out elite its a prefect fit. But, then I feel like he could take away from Dray. But, with the league really moving to a single big and Wiggins just being Wiggins who are you playing with when you have one of Dray and Weisman on the floor?

The Warriors were great because of their numbers. They had AI and Livingston coming off the bench. Whos coming off the bench and playing those difficult minutes and finishing games with the big, Klay & Steph??

This is all just reading tea leaves, so take it with a grain of salt...

Right now? I think they stay put and take Edwards or Wiseman (in that order), with an outside chance they pick Avdija over Wiseman. I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't one of those three unless they move down (which I think is less likely than most people assume).

If Wiseman is the pick, I suspect his role will be limited in the first year to basically the role that JaVale and Chriss have played for us in years past - run the floor, protect the rim, finish lobs/putbacks. Probably only a 20 mpg player. I think they would really prefer Edwards to fall and use the tax MLE to find a veteran big, but that seems unlikely unless Minnesota trades the pick.

I'm honestly not sure how the rest of the roster will flesh out. Myers has been confident (some might say overly confident...) in the FO's ability to find contributors with the MLE and minimum ring chasers. If Wiseman is the pick, I suspect they'll try and add a rotation-level wing with the MLE (Jae Crowder is certainly a commonly mentioned name, but I think every contender thinks they're signing him with the MLE so who knows). Would love to see Joey open up the wallet and spend the MLE to bring in another top-7 rotation guy but I'm pessimistic about that.

I'm on the more pessimistic end of GS fans about this offseason though, TBH. I'd be semi-surprised if they did much more than spend the pick, sign someone appropriate with the MLE, and fill out the rest of the roster with vet min ring chasers, which definitely leaves us looking up at LA/LA and possibly Denver in the West.

Will they let the TPE expire? Since MIA has Crowders bird rights I would expect them to be able to out bid anyone for his services.

Personally I think they will, but I'd be happy to be proved wrong.

[Warriorfan]

Warrior luxury tax probably cut to a third. So I doubt they are dumping salary in Wiggins who I actually think warriors mgmt believe they can rehab value.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/why-luxury-tax-rule-2020-21-nba-season-tremendous-warriors

[HornetJail]

Wiggins would basically have to be traded for immediate cap space for this to work

[Coxy]

Yup, wasn't thinking about the apron, this obviously doesn't work. Too bad, he'd be a nice fit. The only way to seemingly make this work is if OKC is motivated to do a pick swap to take on Wiggins. e.g. Wiggins+2021 GSW 1st+swap 2021 MIN/OKC 1st (if MIN higher) for Gallo + ???

Better off just walking away for GS.

I thought Gallo would be a good fit as well, but I cooled on that idea a while ago now.

[gswhoops]

Yup, wasn't thinking about the apron, this obviously doesn't work. Too bad, he'd be a nice fit. The only way to seemingly make this work is if OKC is motivated to do a pick swap to take on Wiggins. e.g. Wiggins+2021 GSW 1st+swap 2021 MIN/OKC 1st (if MIN higher) for Gallo + ???

Better off just walking away for GS.

I thought Gallo would be a good fit as well, but I cooled on that idea a while ago now.

Still think Gallo would be a great fit; unfortunately, we don't have any realistic way of getting him. Even if he desperately wants to play for a contender and only considers offers from them, non-tax MLE beats tax MLE

[babyjax13]

Yup, wasn't thinking about the apron, this obviously doesn't work. Too bad, he'd be a nice fit. The only way to seemingly make this work is if OKC is motivated to do a pick swap to take on Wiggins. e.g. Wiggins+2021 GSW 1st+swap 2021 MIN/OKC 1st (if MIN higher) for Gallo + ???

Better off just walking away for GS.

I thought Gallo would be a good fit as well, but I cooled on that idea a while ago now.

Still think Gallo would be a great fit; unfortunately, we don't have any realistic way of getting him. Even if he desperately wants to play for a contender and only considers offers from them, non-tax MLE beats tax MLE

Maybe they can absorb someone into their TPE, then offer that player + a first for Gallo, but that's too convoluted to be a plan rather than a possible option down the road.