Draft Picks as a result of Trades

orthoman · Post #1 » by **orthoman** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:34 am

I'm somewhat confused over the number of Draft Picks Orlando has acquired as a result of the trades.

How many FRP's did we pick up this year?

Say we lose most of the remaining games and land a top 3 pick as a result of our losing record, alone.

From the trades, do we land another top 5 (or top 10) pick?

zaymon · Post #2 » by **zaymon** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:54 am

This year we have our first and second round pick and Chicago top 4 protected first round pick. Dont know about Boston second.

JBSouthpaw · Post #3 » by **JBSouthpaw** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:19 am

Chi 1st 2021 (top 4 protected)
Chi 1 2023 (top 4 protected)
Den 2025 (top 5 protected)

2025 2nd, worst of Bos/Mem
2027 2nd, BOS

Plus from past dealings

we'll get 2 of these 3
2022 possible 2nd rd
2023 possible 2nd rd
2024 possible 2nd rd
&
2026 2nd rd

p0peye · Post #4 » by **p0peye** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:15 pm

I didn't know about all protections, if the above is correct, props to WeHam on getting so lightly protected picks.

Magicfanatic82 · Post #5 » by **Magicfanatic82** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:04 pm

If it lands inside top 4, is the pick lost? I dont see details past the original year of each.

Nyce_1 · Post #6 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:08 pm

Magicfanatic82 wrote:If it lands inside top 4, is the pick lost? I dont see details past the original year of each.

that's the million dollar question many of us are waiting to be answered.

drsd · Post #7 » by **drsd** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:44 pm

JBSouthpaw wrote:what ever the 2nds from BOS end up

Their worst in 2025 (BOS or MEMPHIS) and the BOS SRP in 2027.

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Skin · Post #8 » by **Skin** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:05 pm

Looking at this brings me so much joy!

2021 1st (ORL), 1st (CHI - Top 4 Protection), 2nd (ORL)

2022 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL), 2nd (IND)

2023 1st (ORL), 1st (CHI - Top 4 Protection), 2nd (ORL)

2024 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL)

2025 1st (ORL), 1st (DEN - Top 5 Protection), 2nd (ORL), 2025 (BOS or MEM)

2026 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL), 2nd (MIL)

2027 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL), 2nd (BOS)

drsd · Post #9 » by **drsd** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:33 am

Skin wrote:Looking at this brings me so much joy!

2021 1st (ORL), 1st (CHI - Top 4 Protection), 2nd (ORL)

2022 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL), 2nd (IND)

2023 1st (ORL), 1st (CHI - Top 4 Protection), 2nd (ORL)

2024 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL)

2025 1st (ORL), 1st (DEN - Top 5 Protection), 2nd (ORL), 2025 (BOS or MEM)

2026 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL), 2nd (MIL)

2027 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL), 2nd (BOS)

It is intersting that is every other year that the Magic has two FRPs. That will generate a nice pattern of players to solidify the bench.

Many of those SRPs look to get burned, as there are to many first-round players.

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NEM · Post #10 » by **NEM** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:58 am

drsd wrote:
Skin wrote:Looking at this brings me so much joy!

2021 1st (ORL), 1st (CHI - Top 4 Protection), 2nd (ORL)

2022 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL), 2nd (IND)

2023 1st (ORL), 1st (CHI - Top 4 Protection), 2nd (ORL)

2024 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL)

2025 1st (ORL), 1st (DEN - Top 5 Protection), 2nd (ORL), 2025 (BOS or MEM)

2026 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL), 2nd (MIL)

2027 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL), 2nd (BOS)

It is intersting that is every other year that the Magic has two FRPs. That will generate a nice pattern of players to solidify the bench.

Many of those SRPs look to get burned, as there are to many first-round players.

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If weltman is still here those SRP’s are gonna get traded for cash because the draft flattened out.

Rainwater · Post #11 » by **Rainwater** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:07 am

Nyce_1 wrote:
Magicfanatic82 wrote:If it lands inside top 4, is the pick lost? I dont see details past the original year of each.

that's the million dollar question many of us are waiting to be answered.

I am almost certain the pick is not lost, it just rolls over to the next draft just with less protection or no protection at all. Isn't that typically the case?

basketballRob · Post #12 » by **basketballRob** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:16 am

Rainwater wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:
Magicfanatic82 wrote:If it lands inside top 4, is the pick lost? I dont see details past the original year of each.

that's the million dollar question many of us are waiting to be answered.

I am almost certain the pick is not lost, it just rolls over to the next draft just with less protection or no protection at all. Isn't that typically the case?

That's what they were posting on the Bulls board. If it falls in the bottom 4, the next season it'll be unprotected. That would push back the 2023 pick a year tho, because they can't give up two picks in a row.

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drsd · Post #13 » by **drsd** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:51 am

NEM wrote:If weltman is still here those SRP’s are gonna get traded for cash because the draft flattened out.

After the 2023 draft, Orlando could have five new players selected in the first round. Add that to Fultz, Isaac, Anthony, Okeke, Carter, Hampton, and the two FRPs this year, that is already 13 players. This years SRP is a probable rotation player that will stick = 14 players.

It is VERY hard to see what value Orlando hope for in its SRPs. I guess the Magic draft for Lakeland and develop real projects there. Maybe one hits.

At least Orlando does not have 17 SRPs, like the Thunder does.

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Nyce_1 · Post #14 » by **Nyce_1** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:09 pm

Rainwater wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:
Magicfanatic82 wrote:If it lands inside top 4, is the pick lost? I dont see details past the original year of each.

that's the million dollar question many of us are waiting to be answered.

I am almost certain the pick is not lost, it just rolls over to the next draft just with less protection or no protection at all. Isn't that typically the case?

not typically the case. sometimes they get lighter and lighter protections until the pick is convey. another common scenario is if not convey, the pick becomes two 2nd round picks (highly highly HIGHLY unlikely here). rollover scenarios are always negotiated and hashed out. Take our Den pick for example, that has top-5 protections for 3 years then unprotected.

the full chi pick details just haven't been released yet.

Anti Chalmers · Post #15 » by **Anti Chalmers** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:25 pm

NEM wrote:
drsd wrote:
Skin wrote:Looking at this brings me so much joy!

2021 1st (ORL), 1st (CHI - Top 4 Protection), 2nd (ORL)

2022 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL), 2nd (IND)

2023 1st (ORL), 1st (CHI - Top 4 Protection), 2nd (ORL)

2024 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL)

2025 1st (ORL), 1st (DEN - Top 5 Protection), 2nd (ORL), 2025 (BOS or MEM)

2026 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL), 2nd (MIL)

2027 1st (ORL), 2nd (ORL), 2nd (BOS)

It is intersting that is every other year that the Magic has two FRPs. That will generate a nice pattern of players to solidify the bench.

Many of those SRPs look to get burned, as there are to many first-round players.

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If weltman is still here those SRP’s are gonna get traded for cash because the draft flattened out.

I hope not we don’t continue selling our 2nd round picks.

drsd · Post #16 » by **drsd** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:31 pm

Anti Chalmers wrote:I hope not we don’t continue selling our 2nd round picks.

We might be entering a realm were teams can draft G-leagures so that they cannot be signed by another team.

MartinsIzAfraud · Post #17 » by **MartinsIzAfraud** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:43 pm

Anti Chalmers wrote:
NEM wrote:
drsd wrote:

It is intersting that is every other year that the Magic has two FRPs. That will generate a nice pattern of players to solidify the bench.

Many of those SRPs look to get burned, as there are to many first-round players.

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If weltman is still here those SRP’s are gonna get traded for cash because the draft flattened out.

I hope not we don’t continue selling our 2nd round picks.

This years 2nd rounder they will definitely use since it’ll be early 2nd.

drsd · Post #18 » by **drsd** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:51 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:This years 2nd rounder they will definitely use since it’ll be early 2nd.

Orlando will need a third-string Center. There is literally no cheaper way to get one than a second-round rookie contract.

Charles Bassey if he slides must be the guy. But I also like Drew Timme and Kofi Cockburn. None of those three are one-N-doners, and thus all three should reasonable be expected to contribute deep-bench minutes for the Magic.

I really want a Magician that looks like this!

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Gomagic44 · Post #19 » by **Gomagic44** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:13 pm

I need to look these guys up, I haven't been as into personel as in recent years.

All I know is I hope we draft shooters. With both firsts.

This is a comfortable position we are in. Like the chains of mediocrity are broken. I hope we can evaluate and draft correctly.

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basketballRob · Post #20 » by **basketballRob** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:17 pm

Gomagic44 wrote:I need to look these guys up, I haven't been as into personel as in recent years.

All I know is I hope we draft shooters. With both firsts.

This is a comfortable position we are in. Like the chains of mediocrity are broken. I hope we can evaluate and draft correctly.

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Kispert is Joe Harris 2.0.

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