BJs (8-10) @ Rays (10-9) - April 23-25

TR50 · Post #1 » by **TR50** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:25 pm

This my master piece of a series thread

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Game 1:
Steven Matz (3-0, 1.47 ERA, 18 SO)
vs.
Tyler Glasnow (2-0, 0.73 ERA, 36 SO)

Game 2:
Robbie Ray (0-1, 1.80 ERA, 6 SO)
vs.
Brent Honeywell Jr (0-0, 8.31 ERA, 4 SO)

Game 3:
Hyun-Jin Ryu (1-2, 3.00 ERA, 21 SO)
vs.
Luis Patino (0-0, -.-- ERA, 0 SO)

Parataxis · Post #2 » by **Parataxis** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:40 pm

Taking two of these three would be very nice.

polo007 · Post #3 » by **polo007** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:40 pm

Read on Twitter

polo007 · Post #4 » by **polo007** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:46 pm

Read on Twitter

Metallikid · Post #5 » by **Metallikid** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:21 pm

So the FO just told us that the cavalry is going to amount to a reliever who has had one major league appearance.

Just end the season now.

Post #6 » by **Schad** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:12 pm

Metallikid wrote:So the FO just told us that the cavalry is going to amount to a reliever who has had one major league appearance.

Just end the season now.

Were you expecting that they'd swing an April trade for a high-end reliever or something? He's just another depth arm, because Hatch going on the 60-day cleared a roster spot and allowed us to such.

Fairview4Life · Post #7 » by **Fairview4Life** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:12 pm

Metallikid wrote:So the FO just told us that the cavalry is going to amount to a reliever who has had one major league appearance.

Just end the season now.

Springer might be back this weekend. Seems a little more important.

Metallikid · Post #8 » by **Metallikid** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:36 pm

Schad wrote:
Metallikid wrote:So the FO just told us that the cavalry is going to amount to a reliever who has had one major league appearance.

Just end the season now.

Were you expecting that they'd swing an April trade for a high-end reliever or something? He's just another depth arm, because Hatch going on the 60-day cleared a roster spot and allowed us to such.

I don't know. I was expecting a FO to realize they need more than they think they do because these kinds of situations are not uncommon. If we had Walker right now we would probably have a much better record.

Fairview4Life · Post #9 » by **Fairview4Life** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:38 pm

Walker’s had one good start.

Parataxis · Post #10 » by **Parataxis** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:33 am

Metallikid wrote:
Schad wrote:
Metallikid wrote:So the FO just told us that the cavalry is going to amount to a reliever who has had one major league appearance.

Just end the season now.

Were you expecting that they'd swing an April trade for a high-end reliever or something? He's just another depth arm, because Hatch going on the 60-day cleared a roster spot and allowed us to such.

I don't know. I was expecting a FO to realize they need more than they think they do because these kinds of situations are not uncommon. If we had Walker right now we would probably have a much better record.

They got more pitchers than they thought they'd need. We had what, 8 potential SPs that we signed or traded for? A passel of RPs?

We just got hit harder than was reasonable, and all at once.

Metallikid · Post #11 » by **Metallikid** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:54 am

Fairview4Life wrote:Walker’s had one good start.

Walker has given up 5 Earned Runs in 14 innings and has a 3.28 ERA.

Post #12 » by **Schad** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:16 am

Metallikid wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:Walker’s had one good start.

Walker has given up 5 Earned Runs in 14 innings and has a 3.28 ERA.

He has also walked 11 batters in 14 innings, including 6 in 3.2 IP in his last start. I think we're a long way from declaring Walker to be the missing piece that got away.

The_Hater · Post #13 » by **The_Hater** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:39 am

Metallikid wrote:So the FO just told us that the cavalry is going to amount to a reliever who has had one major league appearance.

Just end the season now.

Great, we finally get rid of Ratul and we already have his replacement. I guess you were expecting Mike Trout and Clayton Kershaw to magically appear?

Stop watching. Stop following. All your problems and our problems get solved.

Metallikid · Post #14 » by **Metallikid** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:07 am

The_Hater wrote:
Metallikid wrote:So the FO just told us that the cavalry is going to amount to a reliever who has had one major league appearance.

Just end the season now.

Great, we finally get rid of Ratul and we already have his replacement. I guess you were expecting Mike Trout and Clayton Kershaw to magically appear?

Stop watching. Stop following. All your problems and our problems get solved.

I probably will along with a lot of other people if they keep playing this way. They should be good enough to have a shot at winning the A.L. East but it's going to be another disappointing 4th place finish.

The_Hater · Post #15 » by **The_Hater** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:11 am

Metallikid wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Metallikid wrote:So the FO just told us that the cavalry is going to amount to a reliever who has had one major league appearance.

Just end the season now.

Great, we finally get rid of Ratul and we already have his replacement. I guess you were expecting Mike Trout and Clayton Kershaw to magically appear?

Stop watching. Stop following. All your problems and our problems get solved.

I probably will along with a lot of other people if they keep playing this way. They should be good enough to have a shot at winning the A.L. East but it's going to be another disappointing 4th place finish.

Whatever you say Ratul

bluerap23 · Post #16 » by **bluerap23** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:14 pm

Schad wrote:
Metallikid wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:Walker’s had one good start.

Walker has given up 5 Earned Runs in 14 innings and has a 3.28 ERA.

He has also walked 11 batters in 14 innings, including 6 in 3.2 IP in his last start. I think we're a long way from declaring Walker to be the missing piece that got away.

He is also a starting pitcher. Currently I count only 3 of those on our team. Didn't have to be walker, just a guy who can take the mound once a turn.

Post #17 » by **Schad** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:44 pm

bluerap23 wrote:He is also a starting pitcher. Currently I count only 3 of those on our team. Didn't have to be walker, just a guy who can take the mound once a turn.

I was among those that wanted us to spend more on starting pitching. But, if one assumes that this season isn't the be-all, end-all, I can see why they didn't dive into the FA SP market, because most of them have been somewhere between bad and dead. Here's the 2021 FA starter list:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021-mlb-free-agent-tracker/sort_column-aav__sort_direction-0__positions-9

Morton looks good as per, but most of the others (including the ones I wanted us to target) have been Roarkian.

Metallikid · Post #18 » by **Metallikid** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:52 pm

bluerap23 wrote:
Schad wrote:
Metallikid wrote:
Walker has given up 5 Earned Runs in 14 innings and has a 3.28 ERA.

He has also walked 11 batters in 14 innings, including 6 in 3.2 IP in his last start. I think we're a long way from declaring Walker to be the missing piece that got away.

He is also a starting pitcher. Currently I count only 3 of those on our team. Didn't have to be walker, just a guy who can take the mound once a turn.

Exactly! I can't remember the last season the Blue Jays had 5 real starting pitchers on their roster.

bluerap23 · Post #19 » by **bluerap23** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:18 pm

Schad wrote:
bluerap23 wrote:He is also a starting pitcher. Currently I count only 3 of those on our team. Didn't have to be walker, just a guy who can take the mound once a turn.

I was among those that wanted us to spend more on starting pitching. But, if one assumes that this season isn't the be-all, end-all, I can see why they didn't dive into the FA SP market, because most of them have been somewhere between bad and dead. Here's the 2021 FA starter list:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021-mlb-free-agent-tracker/sort_column-aav__sort_direction-0__positions-9

Morton looks good as per, but most of the others (including the ones I wanted us to target) have been Roarkian.

Fair enough. I maintain that Walker is a significantly better pitcher than Roark. We can agree to disagree on that if you insist.

Fairview4Life · Post #20 » by **Fairview4Life** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:34 pm

Roark was already under contract for this year (and should be cut, sure) and wouldn’t have taken 2 years plus a player option to keep.

We’re talking about probably what, 4-5 starts of sub par pitchers to be replaced by Walker before guys start getting healthy again? And Walker has only had one good start this year anyway.