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Your Lotto Mock Draft With Trades: Run The Tankathon Lotto Machine 

Post#1 » by NYG » Wed May 26, 2021 1:55 am

With the tie-breakers set, run the tankathon lottery machine: http://www.tankathon.com/

Use the resulting order and mock the lottery, but include every trade involving a top 14 pick on draft night.

I'll post mine below.
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Post#2 » by NYG » Wed May 26, 2021 2:09 am

1. Minnesota Timberwolves - Cade Cunningham
2. Orlando Magic - Evan Mobley
3. Oklahoma City Thunder - Jalen Suggs
4. Houston Rockets - Jalen Green
5. Detroit Pistons - Jonathan Kuminga
6. Cleveland Cavaliers - Scottie Barnes
7. Toronto Raptors - Alperen Sengun
8. Orlando Magic (via Chicago Bulls) - Corey Kispert
9. Sacramento Kings - Franz Wagner
10. New Orleans Pelicans - Davion Mitchell
11. Charlotte Hornets - Keon Johnson
12. San Antonio Spurs - Kai Jones
13. Indiana Pacers - Isaiah Jackson
14. Golden State Warriors - Josh Giddey

I actually have no teams making trades. I could see Detroit at 5 and Toronto at 7 trading down or for a vet, but there's no trade I see in that value range.
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Post#3 » by shrink » Wed May 26, 2021 2:24 am

I’ll just stick with NYG’s.
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Post#4 » by MasterIchiro » Wed May 26, 2021 2:27 am

1 - Raptors - Cade Cunningham
2 - Pistons - Jalen Green
3 - Rockets - Evan Mobley
4 - Cavs - Jalen Suggs
5 - Magic - Jonathan Kuminga
6 - Thunder - Davion Mitchell
7 - Warriors (via T-Wolves) - Josh Giddey
8 - Magic (via Bulls) - Moses Moody
9 - Kings - Scottie Barnes
10 - Pelicans - James Bouknight
11 - Hornets - Kai Jones
12 - Spurs - Franz Wagner
13 - Pacers - Jalen Johnson
14 - Warriors - Corey Kispert
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Post#5 » by Colbinii » Wed May 26, 2021 2:31 am

shrink wrote:I’ll just stick with NYG’s.


I was going to say the same.

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Post#6 » by NYG » Wed May 26, 2021 2:35 am

shrink wrote:I’ll just stick with NYG’s.


haha does it have anything to do with Cade Cunningham to Minnesota?
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Post#7 » by gswhoops » Wed May 26, 2021 3:08 am

1. Detroit - Cade Cunningham
2. OKC - Evan Mobley
3. Houston - Jalen Suggs
4. Cleveland - Jonathan Kuminga
5. Orlando - Jalen Green
6. Golden State (f/MIN) - Scottie Barnes
7. Toronto Raptors - Keon Johnson
8. Orlando (f/CHI) - Corey Kispert
9. Sacramento - Jalen Johnson
10. New Orleans - Kai Jones
11. Charlotte - Alperen Senguin
12. San Antonio - Isaiah Jackson
13. Indiana - Franz Wagner
14. Golden State - Davion Mitchell
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Post#8 » by HornetJail » Wed May 26, 2021 3:08 am

I have no idea, but any scenario that has Charlotte picking someone other than a center at #11 is just wrong. If we somehow jump into the top 4 again, take BPA and figure out fit later, but we have to use #11 to acquire a C whether it's picking a rookie or trading for a good one.
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Post#9 » by NYG » Wed May 26, 2021 3:32 am

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:I have no idea, but any scenario that has Charlotte picking someone other than a center at #11 is just wrong. If we somehow jump into the top 4 again, take BPA and figure out fit later, but we have to use #11 to acquire a C whether it's picking a rookie or trading for a good one.


I don't see a vet worth trading the pick for where the other team prefers the pick. Do you prefer Isaiah Jackson or Kai Jones?
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Post#10 » by loserX » Wed May 26, 2021 6:07 am

1. Houston Rockets - Cade Cunningham
2. Detroit Pistons - Jalen Suggs
3. Orlando Magic - Evan Mobley
4. Oklahoma City Thunder - Jalen Green
5. Cleveland Cavaliers - Jonathan Kuminga
6. Golden State Warriors (from Minnesota), traded to Memphis* - Keon Johnson
7. Toronto Raptors, traded to New Orleans** - Scottie Barnes
8. Orlando Magic (from Chicago) - Moses Moody
9. Sacramento Kings - Franz Wagner
10. New Orleans Pelicans, traded to Toronto** - Usman Garuba
11. Charlotte Hornets - Kai Jones
12. San Antonio Spurs - James Bouknight
13. Indiana Pacers - Davion Mitchell
14. Golden State Warriors - Corey Kispert

*Golden State Warriors trade Andrew Wiggins, Alen Smailagic, pick #6 to the Grizzles for Dillon Brooks, Kyle Anderson, Brandon Clarke, Tyus Jones, pick #17. Great match of a team that needs quantity with a team that needs quality: Warriors move down in the draft to turn Wiggins into FOUR rotation players: a defender, a shooter, an athletic forward, and a playmaker. Griz cash out some depth to hopefully settle their wing rotation with Wiggins and Keon Johnson. (This combo may not be quite right but the Warriors need NBA-quality bodies and the Griz have loads. I'm sure something could be worked out!) The Warriors can fold a Wood/Wiseman trade in here too if that's the plan.

**Raptors trade pick #7 to New Orleans for pick #10 plus something from the Pelicans' hoard of future picks. Toronto has Anunoby and doesn't need to pick in this range of forwards, but the Pelicans do! So they pay a little premium to jump ahead of the Magic and Kings to get the defensive stud they crave, while Toronto gets a talented big man prospect they could use anyway, and pocket the extra asset.
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Post#11 » by babyjax13 » Wed May 26, 2021 6:08 am

Lottery results:
1. Cleveland: Cade Cunningham
2. Houston: Evan Mobley ---> to SAS for 2021 SAS 1st (3) + rights to swap 2022 1st
3. San Antonio: Jalen Suggs ---> to HOU, see above
4. Detroit: Jalen Green
5. Orlando: Jonathan Kuminga
6. Oklahoma City: Keon Johnson
7. Golden State (Minnesota): Scottie Barnes
8. Toronto: Alperin Sengun
9. Orlando (Chicago): Jalen Johnson ---> to SAC for 2021 SAC 1st (10) + Jahmius Ramsey + 2022 DET/CHI 2nd (less favorable)
10. Sacramento: James Bouknight ---> to ORL, see above
11. New Orleans: Moses Moody
12. Charlotte: Kai Jones [could see Charlotte trying to trade up to get Sengun, or trade down to draft one Jones/Jackson later]
13. Indiana: Davion Mitchell
14. Golden State: Corey Kispert

San Antonio makes a big move up to try and bring the next great big man, Duncan/Robinson would be the perfect mentors to Mobley.

Houston likes both Mobley and Suggs, so decides that Suggs is a good compliment to Porter Jr. and that they'd like a chance to move up in 2022 (albeit SAS is likely to be much better than HOU).

Orlando, while losing out on the lottery, still walks away with Kuminga, and is able to parlay Jalen Johnson - who is overly redundant with Jonathan Isaac AND Jonathan Kuminga on the roster - to get another asset + one of Bouknight/Moody. I went for Bouknight because I see more potential upside as a star player, but I could see Moody just as well.

Sacramento gets a versatile power forward who is an ideal fit in the modern game if all those flashes are real for fairly minimal cost.
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Post#12 » by SpiderMunn » Wed May 26, 2021 7:01 am

MasterIchiro wrote:1 - Raptors - Cade Cunningham
2 - Pistons - Jalen Green
3 - Rockets - Evan Mobley
4 - Cavs - Jalen Suggs
5 - Magic - Jonathan Kuminga
6 - Thunder - Davion Mitchell
7 - Warriors (via T-Wolves) - Josh Giddey
8 - Magic (via Bulls) - Moses Moody
9 - Kings - Scottie Barnes
10 - Pelicans - James Bouknight
11 - Hornets - Kai Jones
12 - Spurs - Franz Wagner
13 - Pacers - Jalen Johnson
14 - Warriors - Corey Kispert


All I needed to see was the Raptors at one. I choose to believe that you're a hybrid Merlin/Nostradamus being. Have a lovely day MasterIchiro, the first of your name.
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Post#13 » by tiderulz » Wed May 26, 2021 12:17 pm

NYG wrote:1. Minnesota Timberwolves - Cade Cunningham
2. Orlando Magic - Evan Mobley
3. Oklahoma City Thunder - Jalen Suggs
4. Houston Rockets - Jalen Green
5. Detroit Pistons - Jonathan Kuminga
6. Cleveland Cavaliers - Scottie Barnes
7. Toronto Raptors - Alperen Sengun
8. Orlando Magic (via Chicago Bulls) - Corey Kispert
9. Sacramento Kings - Franz Wagner
10. New Orleans Pelicans - Davion Mitchell
11. Charlotte Hornets - Keon Johnson
12. San Antonio Spurs - Kai Jones
13. Indiana Pacers - Isaiah Jackson
14. Golden State Warriors - Josh Giddey

I actually have no teams making trades. I could see Detroit at 5 and Toronto at 7 trading down or for a vet, but there's no trade I see in that value range.

if Orlando drafts Mobley, you will hear the sound of my phone hitting the wall from wherever you are :wink:
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Post#14 » by Laimbeer » Wed May 26, 2021 12:42 pm

NYG wrote:I actually have no teams making trades. I could see Detroit at 5 and Toronto at 7 trading down or for a vet, but there's no trade I see in that value range.


Curious why you think the Pistons would trade out of the top 5 for a vet at this point.
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Post#15 » by Laimbeer » Wed May 26, 2021 12:44 pm

babyjax13 wrote:Lottery results:
1. Cleveland: Cade Cunningham
2. Houston: Evan Mobley ---> to SAS for 2021 SAS 1st (3) + rights to swap 2022 1st
3. San Antonio: Jalen Suggs ---> to HOU, see above
4. Detroit: Jalen Green
5. Orlando: Jonathan Kuminga
6. Oklahoma City: Keon Johnson
7. Golden State (Minnesota): Scottie Barnes
8. Toronto: Alperin Sengun
9. Orlando (Chicago): Jalen Johnson ---> to SAC for 2021 SAC 1st (10) + Jahmius Ramsey + 2022 DET/CHI 2nd (less favorable)
10. Sacramento: James Bouknight ---> to ORL, see above
11. New Orleans: Moses Moody
12. Charlotte: Kai Jones [could see Charlotte trying to trade up to get Sengun, or trade down to draft one Jones/Jackson later]
13. Indiana: Davion Mitchell
14. Golden State: Corey Kispert

San Antonio makes a big move up to try and bring the next great big man, Duncan/Robinson would be the perfect mentors to Mobley.

Houston likes both Mobley and Suggs, so decides that Suggs is a good compliment to Porter Jr. and that they'd like a chance to move up in 2022 (albeit SAS is likely to be much better than HOU).

Orlando, while losing out on the lottery, still walks away with Kuminga, and is able to parlay Jalen Johnson - who is overly redundant with Jonathan Isaac AND Jonathan Kuminga on the roster - to get another asset + one of Bouknight/Moody. I went for Bouknight because I see more potential upside as a star player, but I could see Moody just as well.

Sacramento gets a versatile power forward who is an ideal fit in the modern game if all those flashes are real for fairly minimal cost.


Not sure why Houston lets the Spurs move up at that point of the draft for a swap that will probably not happen.
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Post#16 » by the_process » Wed May 26, 2021 1:01 pm

This is what I got for my lottery sim:

TOR
Cade Cunningham
PG | Oklahoma State

HOU
Jalen Suggs
PG/SG | Gonzaga

NO
Evan Mobley
C | USC

OKC
Jalen Green
SG | G League

DET
Jonathan Kuminga
SF | G League

ORL
Scottie Barnes
PF | Florida State

CLE
Jalen Johnson
SF/PF | Duke

GS
Keon Johnson
SG | Tennessee

ORL
Davion Mitchell
PG/SG | Baylor

SAC
Corey Kispert
SF | Gonzaga

CHA
Alperen Şengün
C | Beşiktaş

SA
Moses Moody
SG | Arkansas

IND
James Bouknight
SG | UConn

GS
Franz Wagner
SF | Michigan
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Post#17 » by Nate the Great » Wed May 26, 2021 1:07 pm

loserX wrote:1. Houston Rockets - Cade Cunningham
2. Detroit Pistons - Jalen Suggs
3. Orlando Magic - Evan Mobley
4. Oklahoma City Thunder - Jalen Green
5. Cleveland Cavaliers - Jonathan Kuminga
6. Golden State Warriors (from Minnesota), traded to Memphis* - Keon Johnson
7. Toronto Raptors, traded to New Orleans** - Scottie Barnes
8. Orlando Magic (from Chicago) - Moses Moody
9. Sacramento Kings - Franz Wagner
10. New Orleans Pelicans, traded to Toronto** - Usman Garuba
11. Charlotte Hornets - Kai Jones
12. San Antonio Spurs - James Bouknight
13. Indiana Pacers - Davion Mitchell
14. Golden State Warriors - Corey Kispert

*Golden State Warriors trade Andrew Wiggins, Alen Smailagic, pick #6 to the Grizzles for Dillon Brooks, Kyle Anderson, Brandon Clarke, Tyus Jones, pick #17. Great match of a team that needs quantity with a team that needs quality: Warriors move down in the draft to turn Wiggins into FOUR rotation players: a defender, a shooter, an athletic forward, and a playmaker. Griz cash out some depth to hopefully settle their wing rotation with Wiggins and Keon Johnson. (This combo may not be quite right but the Warriors need NBA-quality bodies and the Griz have loads. I'm sure something could be worked out!) The Warriors can fold a Wood/Wiseman trade in here too if that's the plan.

**Raptors trade pick #7 to New Orleans for pick #10 plus something from the Pelicans' hoard of future picks. Toronto has Anunoby and doesn't need to pick in this range of forwards, but the Pelicans do! So they pay a little premium to jump ahead of the Magic and Kings to get the defensive stud they crave, while Toronto gets a talented big man prospect they could use anyway, and pocket the extra asset.


Which of those four players you’re sending to GS are you calling a shooter? Because Wiggins shot considerably better from three than any of them this year. If the Warriors gave up all that to become a worse shooting team, Steph would probably be gone at the end of the year.

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Post#18 » by Mike lorenzo » Wed May 26, 2021 1:10 pm

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:I have no idea, but any scenario that has Charlotte picking someone other than a center at #11 is just wrong. If we somehow jump into the top 4 again, take BPA and figure out fit later, but we have to use #11 to acquire a C whether it's picking a rookie or trading for a good one.
Garuba .. it would fit very well, Ibaka profile .. Very raw in attack, but he is already a very good defender in Europe
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Post#19 » by Dn4sty » Wed May 26, 2021 3:13 pm

NYG wrote:1. Minnesota Timberwolves - Cade Cunningham
2. Orlando Magic - Evan Mobley
3. Oklahoma City Thunder - Jalen Suggs
4. Houston Rockets - Jalen Green
5. Detroit Pistons - Jonathan Kuminga
6. Cleveland Cavaliers - Scottie Barnes
7. Toronto Raptors - Alperen Sengun
8. Orlando Magic (via Chicago Bulls) - Corey Kispert
9. Sacramento Kings - Franz Wagner
10. New Orleans Pelicans - Davion Mitchell
11. Charlotte Hornets - Keon Johnson
12. San Antonio Spurs - Kai Jones
13. Indiana Pacers - Isaiah Jackson
14. Golden State Warriors - Josh Giddey

I actually have no teams making trades. I could see Detroit at 5 and Toronto at 7 trading down or for a vet, but there's no trade I see in that value range.


I feel like OKC backs up the asset truck to move from 3 to 1 in this scenario
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Post#20 » by Dadouv47 » Wed May 26, 2021 3:21 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:Lottery results:
1. Cleveland: Cade Cunningham
2. Houston: Evan Mobley ---> to SAS for 2021 SAS 1st (3) + rights to swap 2022 1st
3. San Antonio: Jalen Suggs ---> to HOU, see above
4. Detroit: Jalen Green
5. Orlando: Jonathan Kuminga
6. Oklahoma City: Keon Johnson
7. Golden State (Minnesota): Scottie Barnes
8. Toronto: Alperin Sengun
9. Orlando (Chicago): Jalen Johnson ---> to SAC for 2021 SAC 1st (10) + Jahmius Ramsey + 2022 DET/CHI 2nd (less favorable)
10. Sacramento: James Bouknight ---> to ORL, see above
11. New Orleans: Moses Moody
12. Charlotte: Kai Jones [could see Charlotte trying to trade up to get Sengun, or trade down to draft one Jones/Jackson later]
13. Indiana: Davion Mitchell
14. Golden State: Corey Kispert

San Antonio makes a big move up to try and bring the next great big man, Duncan/Robinson would be the perfect mentors to Mobley.

Houston likes both Mobley and Suggs, so decides that Suggs is a good compliment to Porter Jr. and that they'd like a chance to move up in 2022 (albeit SAS is likely to be much better than HOU).

Orlando, while losing out on the lottery, still walks away with Kuminga, and is able to parlay Jalen Johnson - who is overly redundant with Jonathan Isaac AND Jonathan Kuminga on the roster - to get another asset + one of Bouknight/Moody. I went for Bouknight because I see more potential upside as a star player, but I could see Moody just as well.

Sacramento gets a versatile power forward who is an ideal fit in the modern game if all those flashes are real for fairly minimal cost.


Not sure why Houston lets the Spurs move up at that point of the draft for a swap that will probably not happen.


Probably because they want to draft a PG and not a big but pick swap is light.

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