Patty Mills - what are we getting

[Prokorov]

im obviously farmiliar with him from the title run and playing the nets (he always killed us) but that is still a small sample. at 32, is he post prime, or still near prime levels?

My assumption he is more a Kyrie type (SG in a PG body) then a point guard type.

How is he on catch and shoot/off ball. We lost shamet and did not replace him. Is mills a shamet level sniper on contested/off balance catch and shoot?

[G R E Y]

Absolute gem of a human being, and the spirit of the locker room. When adversity strikes, he's the light that guides the team through it. Don't underestimate it.

He's excellent off ball, constantly moving. He's very smart using screens and very capable off C&S. Good ball handler, excellent in pressure situations, poised because of experience. Good passer, good in transition and half court, very good in P&Rs. Very good at recognizing when to take the 3 or drive and he's capable of finishing well at the rim. Crafty in doing that, and does well using his body to protect the ball and using his off hand to shield it from swipes as well.

He's actually a better man D than he's given credit for. He's strong, takes very good care of his body, has a low center of gravity, and takes a wide stance to get right up on ball handlers to prevent easy drives and pressure passes to force passes for secondary scoring options. He is stronger than he may seem and I think it surprised guys that they couldn't just bully him out of the way. Once a guy drives on him though, well then the help D will have to step up. But Patty's smart in forcing guys to drive outside rather than allowing it down the middle.

He consistently fights through screens. He's excellent at taking charges as well, so don't underestimate timely plays like that which are possession and energy shifters.

He's my favourite vet Spur so I'm admittedly gushing about him, but you'll see that the benefits far outweigh the flaws. Even when his shot isn't falling, he finds ways to contribute. All heart, all effort. He'll do his best to do whatever's asked of him. I love him, and will root for you guys in the East. Treat him well!

[imagump1313]

im obviously farmiliar with him from the title run and playing the nets (he always killed us) but that is still a small sample. at 32, is he post prime, or still near prime levels?

My assumption he is more a Kyrie type (SG in a PG body) then a point guard type.

How is he on catch and shoot/off ball. We lost shamet and did not replace him. Is mills a shamet level sniper on contested/off balance catch and shoot?

He is one of the best catch and shoot guys around. He also moves well without the ball.
His problems come with his size and his tendency to turn the ball over carelessly.

You guys have enough ball dominant players where he should be fine. Defensively he is kind of liability but I think you want to outscore people more than slow the game down.

[JeffReal]

im obviously farmiliar with him from the title run and playing the nets (he always killed us) but that is still a small sample. at 32, is he post prime, or still near prime levels?

My assumption he is more a Kyrie type (SG in a PG body) then a point guard type.

How is he on catch and shoot/off ball. We lost shamet and did not replace him. Is mills a shamet level sniper on contested/off balance catch and shoot?

Patty should still be prime enough, when used correctly. The Spurs tried to run him to exhaustion last season, at 25 minutes per game, 68 games. There were a couple games, during the last dozen games of the season, when he played more than 30 minutes. Rough usage, for a shooting specialist. It was unfortunate, but the Spurs roster and rotations, well that’s a whole book to write. Treat Patty kindly and he should be fine. I can’t imagine the Nets would need to run him that hard.

Patty is basically a shooting guard, yes. He’s more than competent at the point, but ideally you’d want somebody else as the playmaker.

He’s streaky, like all the 3pt shooters are. Where’s one who isn’t?

My esteemed fellow poster mentioned turnovers, but per the advanced stats, last season Patty had a lower turnover percentage than Kyrie (9.3% vs 9.9%). Just fwiw.

The comparison with Shamet is quite interesting. For one thing, they had the identical number of free throw attempts, 78. Shamet made an excellent 85%. Patty made 91%.

Shamet had a better 3pt percentage, .387 versus Patty’s .375 (on higher volume.) Patty was better from 2 tho, he hit 91 of 182 for a sweet 50% exactly.

Contested shots, well, you’d prefer some space. The way the Spurs often did it, they just used a screen. Bring Patty on the run, along the arc, he brushes by the screen to get space, and shoots. Patty can dribble that, or c&s if the pass can be timed right. Use teamwork, with a screener who knows his job.

I don’t know of any reason why he won’t be a good player for you.